Do you wish

[ChicagoJhawk]

Do you wish that ms and ems users (or any ocular jutsu users like rinnegan) were given more genjutsu abilities instead of more non ocular type techniques like sosanoo.i remember when itachi was first revealed in part 1 where he used tsukiomi which was so dope. I wish that ems and ms had more genjutsu abilities like those for several reasons. For one, having more genjutsu abilities instead of wierd non ocular related techniques made fights more strategic. Remember how kakashi had to come up with a tactic of not looking at itachis eyes or else he would be trapped in genjutsu. In part 2,ems and me was given overpowered abilities like sosanoo where strategy doesn't exist and fights turn into a DBz brawl. By cutting down the abilities of ems ms and rinnegan, fights become more strategic. The war arc showed how if ems and rinnegan users are given a bunch of non ocular related abilities like limbo, sosanoo, etc then fights just become big explosions with little tactic. Now contrast that with the pain arc where even tho pains rennigan had many non ocular jutsu abilities like summoning, chakra absorption, all mighty push, etc the fights were still strategic because it wasn't overpowering.

In conclusion, what I'm saying is that ms ems and rinnegan should have had more genjutsu abilities instead of non ocular abilities like sosanoo and limbo because it has been shown to just make fights into nontactical battles. If anything, then ems and ms and rinnegan should have non ocular techniques that are balanced such as the ones we saw in pain arc. Do you wish the same thing happened or what?

 

[Supacharjed]

I understand what you're getting at, and I would personally enjoy more MS genjutsu, but there has to be something said for how awesome Susanoo is.
I mean really, who doesn't love a good Susanoo brawl?

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper">Can't hear you over susano camp.<br /> <br /> Your opinion can't penetrate this ultimate defence's armour.</div>

 

[awesomeseimei]

Well, we've seen a few genjutsu that could be considered ultimate ones in different ways (KA, IT, Izanagi), so I doubt it was possible to take it much further. There are just not too many options on how genjutsu can work, too.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

But then how could non dojutsu users like Naruto and dojutsu users like Sasuke have a fight on equal grounds? If Sasuke's genjutsu can't be broken by Naruto, then Sasuke solos. And if Sasuke's genjutsu can be broken by Naruto, then Naruto solos. Honestly, there won't be any fight between them.

 

[J Man]

Yeah true they should have had more Genjutsu abilities especially Sasuke a MC of the Uchiha but the non ocular technique is what seems to be more effective. Everyone can't be like Itachi by making Genjutsu work on skilled level shinobi.

 

[Umari Senju]

But then how could non dojutsu users like Naruto and dojutsu users like Sasuke have a fight on equal grounds? If Sasuke's genjutsu can't be broken by Naruto, then Sasuke solos. And if Sasuke's genjutsu can be broken by Naruto, then Naruto solos. Honestly, there won't be any fight between them.

this i agree with. While I get what the OP is saying, the fact is genjutsu is extremely haxed and Overpowered. Just look at what Itachi accomplished with it.

The 2nd Mizukage had an entire unit of the Shinobi alliance under genjutsu and it took 2 Kage to bring him down because of it. even when he was telling them how to beat they still struggled.

Having more genjutsu (especially of the Uchiha type) would leave no room for anyone to really oppose them. the ones they have are extremely tough to break already.

You'd have to introduce people who are completely immune to genjutsu in order for them to stand a chance (an no Jinchuriki aren't immune to all genjutsu only highly resistant.)

 

[The Demon Hawk]

this i agree with. While I get what the OP is saying, the fact is genjutsu is extremely haxed and Overpowered. Just look at what Itachi accomplished with it.

The 2nd Mizukage had an entire unit of the Shinobi alliance under genjutsu and it took 2 Kage to bring him down because of it. even when he was telling them how to beat they still struggled.

Having more genjutsu (especially of the Uchiha type) would leave no room for anyone to really oppose them. the ones they have are extremely tough to break already.

You'd have to introduce people who are completely immune to genjutsu in order for them to stand a chance (an no Jinchuriki aren't immune to all genjutsu only highly resistant.)

Yeah, exactly. Even Kage level shinobis like Raikage fall for ordinary Sharingan Genjutsu. In such a state, how can one expect Uchiha Genjutsu like Tsukuyomi and KA to just exist like that and be commonly used? It would be overkill for most. Plus, a battle between a genjutsu user and someone else can be entirely decided by whether the other person can break the genjutsu or not.

 

[Kratoss]

Not really. I never really liked Genjutsu, felt like they are too overpowered and don't work well in fights, one of the reasons why I didn't like Itachi that much in part 1.

I only liked it once in Danzo vs Sasuke. It was really clever and simple there, when Sasuke made Danzo think he had one more opened eye.