Do you think Trump is intelligent?

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I think he is an idiot, but he did manage to become president, so maybe I'm in the minority, Trump doesn't seem to know anything about anything, the reason he got elected seems to be cus he tricked people or something, like there was something attractive about him, something ideological or something, or he just said what people wanted to hear.
But he really seems like an idiot.

I know it's boring to talk about Trump but I wanna know.

I would not wanna be like him tbh even if it meant being president.
 

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He is genius, the president of world's strongest country and multibillionaire. If he was an idiot, he would not be what he is. Idiots are people who think, that he is stupid just because of his character. He is populist and act so, that mass which supports him, gets pleased.
 

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Most of politics is deceiving people, it's more so the followers that are idiots. You can argue Trump has terrible values or morals (he does for most part imo) but he's pretty sharp when it comes to running a business. Your not in the minority, most people would agree with you on calling him an idiot considering it's what verified twitter religiously tweets 24/7 LUL.
 

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Most of politics is deceiving people, it's more so the followers that are idiots. You can argue Trump has terrible values or morals (he does for most part imo) but he's pretty sharp when it comes to running a business. Your not in the minority, most people would agree with you on calling him an idiot considering it's what verified twitter religiously tweets 24/7 LUL.
Yea, that's nice to hear I'm not alone, I'm not saying I'm 100 percent right, but that's how I feel. Even as a business man he doens't seem to be someone who works hard he just like has money and he spends them here and there. He even failed at his business a lot but somehow survived.
 

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I think he just got lucky.
If you call right time in history, right situation in country luck. As someone who has been analyzing world recently, seeing conservative, right wing populists rise in Western world, there is not much of surprise why Trump won elections. To understand all this, we must go back to 2008, when world faced heavy recession. Because of low living conditions after crisis, working - middle class people felt heavy downfall (including country I live in and others who have large working class stratis). In result many of these people favoured more left with, socially oriented politics and left wing populists were able to take rule years in NA and Europe. But after recent wars in Middle East and North Africa, West, specially EU, faced huge migration crisis and, again, this gave opportunity for nationalpopulists and conservatives to take rule again in many places.

Trump is just showman who decided to take opportunity and play "classic, good ol' American value" game, where tons of working class, poorer background people fell for his populism and now will suffer result later.
 

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If you call right time in history, right situation in country luck. As someone who has been analyzing world recently, seeing conservative, right wing populists rise in Western world, there is not much of surprise why Trump won elections. To understand all this, we must go back to 2008, when world faced heavy recession. Because of low living conditions after crisis, working - middle class people felt heavy downfall (including country I live in and others who have large working class stratis). In result many of these people favoured more left with, socially oriented politics and left wing populists were able to take rule years in NA and Europe. But after recent wars in Middle East and North Africa, West, specially EU, faced huge migration crisis and, again, this gave opportunity for nationalpopulists and conservatives to take rule again in many places.

Trump is just showman who decided to take opportunity and play "classic, good ol' American value" game, where tons of working class, poorer background people fell for his populism and now will suffer result later.
Can't argue that.

I still don't understand fully how people voted for him, like I sort of get the nationalistic/anti immigration stuff.
But like I think there was something attractive about him that I don't understand, people who voted for him seems to have a hard time explaining why aswell.

But you make good points. It's tough to say if he was smart or not. I'm just looking at him from an outside perspective and it's like what will he be remembered as? Even if he won and he has lots of fans, like, won't he be more hated than loved? I guess at least he is famous that's always something.
He is not just some no name.
 
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If you subscribe to Howard Gardener's theory of intelligence, then one could say Trump is high in interpersonal intelligence. That combined with him being a veteran of business -- having experience in such profit driven, outcome-based job field, makes him a formidable politician.
 

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Besides the Russians who clearly had their hands in things, Trump is a legit idiot. He said controversal things to attain the white majority votes while the Russians hack the elections to assure that he’ll win.

The reasons why he’s getting his way is because the republicans don’t want to lose to the democrats and a lot of the policies put more money in the pockets of business owners. Who are also mostly republicans.

People who are saying peace this and peace that don’t even know hand that plays underneath everything. It’s just money talking. The reason why Trump is trying to make peace with all these nations is because he’s trying to make a profit. That’s it.
 
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His made peace with the majority of world powers so yes, if crybaby hillary was president we would've already been invaded by china and russia already.
Yea but he sort of just goes along with what ever other world leaders say.

Besides the Russians who clearly had their hands in things, Trump is a legit idiot. He said controversal things to attain the white majority votes while the Russians hack the elections to assure that he’ll win.

The reasons why he’s getting his way is because the republicans don’t want to lose to the democrats and a lot of the policies put more money in the pockets of business owners. Who are also mostly republicans.

People who are saying peace this and peace that don’t even know hand that plays underneath everything. It’s just money talking. The reason why Trump is trying to make peace with all these nations is because he’s trying to make a profit. That’s it.
That's the mindset I have, you could argue his ideologies being smart, but he just seems like he doens't know anything about anything and in the end is just a big joke.
I don't want to seem stupid though, I get he has a lot of support.


If you subscribe to Howard Gardener's theory of intelligence, then one could say Trump is high in interpersonal intelligence. That combined with him being a veteran of business -- having experience in such profit driven, outcome-based job field, makes him a formidable politician.
I don't know much about what defines intelligence, I was thinking he isn't very decent, he doesn't seem to have the knowledge to like "behave".
If that makes sense.
And even if he makes some sort of politician, like he is cunning or whatever, he doesn't seem to know the basics or fit into that profession a lot.
I mean to some extent he fits perfectly but like...I don't know.
 
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I hate the guy, but he's a genius.
All the stupid things he says, aren't necessarily because he believes them, for example I'm positive he knows global warming is real, but he makes more money saying it's not. He's a very clever and sneaky man who uses everything to his advantage.
That's not to say he understands everything, but he knows how to win, he's more concerned with his best interests than that of America or the rest of the world.
 

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I hate the guy, but he's a genius.
All the stupid things he says, aren't necessarily because he believes them, for example I'm positive he knows global warming is real, but he makes more money saying it's not. He's a very clever and sneaky man who uses everything to his advantage.
That's not to say he understands everything, but he knows how to win, he's more concerned with his best interests than that of America or the rest of the world.
I just can't get the image of him being an idiot out of my head. I don't hate him, but like if I started acting like him I would be scared of myself.
xD
Global warming kinda makes me angry, like that he seems to think climate change is all about some luxury like we should have clean water or whatever he talks about and then it might as well be a hoax cus coal makes more money or whatever, that's being on the wrong side of history.


The thing is that I think in another time in another place he could have ended up being instituionalized for being crazy or something.
But he still managed to become president.
Like.
I bet some nazi doctors would have declared him insane and retarded for acting the way he does.
 
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It's gotta take certain amount of intelligence to become one of the world's most successful people.
Will he be remembered as that though? Or will people spit on his grave? I think some people just like him cus of the opinions he embody, but he might as well change his mind or something another day at another time.
 
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That's the mindset I have, you could argue his ideologies being smart, but he just seems like he doens't know anything about anything and in the end is just a big joke.
I don't want to seem stupid though, I get he has a lot of support..
I think this is the best quote to some up not only trump but a lot of people on this base as well.


This is why Trump happened.
 
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No. Just because he won the presidency doesn't make him "smart." All he did was bully his competition and attack them with ad hominems. It doesn't take a smart guy to do that. Hell, George W. Bush won the presidency too. I'm pretty sure we can all agree he wasn't smart either and I'd still put George W. Bush's intelligence miles above Trump's. The man at least read books on a weekly basis. Trump, allegedly, hasn't read a book in over 40 years.

If he was smart, then he wouldn't be digging himself into a hole with the FBI on twitter.
 
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No. Just because he wont the presidency doesn't make him "smart." All he did was bully his competition and attack them with ad hominems. It doesn't take a smart guy to do that. Hell, George W. Bush won the presidency too. I'm pretty sure we can all agree he wasn't smart either and I'd still put George W. Bush's intelligence miles above Trump's. The man at least read books on a weekly basis. Trump, allegedly, hasn't read a book in over 40 years.

If he was smart, then he wouldn't be digging himself into a hole with the FBI on twitter.
@Bold is so true. He has messed up his own lies several times and it's just funny to watch.
 

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No. Just because he wont the presidency doesn't make him "smart." All he did was bully his competition and attack them with ad hominems. It doesn't take a smart guy to do that. Hell, George W. Bush won the presidency too. I'm pretty sure we can all agree he wasn't smart either and I'd still put George W. Bush's intelligence miles above Trump's. The man at least read books on a weekly basis. Trump, allegedly, hasn't read a book in over 40 years.

If he was smart, then he wouldn't be digging himself into a hole with the FBI on twitter.
That's not how he won..... it did garner the attention of trolls and plenty of memes. He won strategically, he didn't waste his time on states that he knew he would lose and went after the swing States, which in the end after 8 years of the Obama administration people felt that they collectively were going nowhere so they bought in to Trump knowing Hillary would be a rehash of Obama. Trump used this to his advantage while Hillary remained cocky, hell look at the premature celebration she was ready to throw in New York only to be bested several hours later.. Have to give credit where it's due he had a great strategy with the odds stacked against him. Solid gameplay whether your with him or not (I'm with you) but this is strictly unbiased. Think that film Wolf of Wall Street, straight asshole of a man but smart enough to make you trade your quarter for his penny.
 
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