Do you think the Susanoo is haxed?

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I do believe Da Best Ever's post has been misread. I think he was stating that if Susano'o is a crutch, then the seal and sand are also, being defensive abilities.

But OP didnt refer to it has crutches he said they're haxxed, which generally means unfair, PS alone throws out the "ever jutsu have a weakness card" and it doesn't even seem chakra-taxing or anything because EMS Madara maintained it for the along time during the death match with Hashirama,

 

[Da Best Ever]

Lol this is why you can't take Uchiha fanboys seriously
goes on to say ever other defensive power are crutches but not susanoo which the user goes into hide from battle.

OT: yea the jutsu is really haxxed especially the eyeless susanoo i mean at the kage summit when sasuke started to go blind it disappeared now it can be used without eyes

llab at u...sasuke said every cell in his body was hurting the longer he kept using susano, it was the unbearable pain that caused him to not be able to sustain susano then not his partial blindness because he was partially blind while facing danzo too but yet what did he use??? susano so your post is invalid, your just a hater...if u hate uchiha then why are u on nb??? why do u read naruto ???...because on nb and on naruto u are going to hear uchiha praise and see uchiha so...

 

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llab at u...sasuke said every cell in his body was hurting the longer he kept using susano, it was the unbearable pain that caused him to not be able to sustain susano then not his partial blindness because he was partially blind while facing danzo too but yet what did he use??? susano so your post is invalid, your just a hater...if u hate uchiha then why are u on nb??? why do u read naruto ???...because on nb and on naruto u are going to hear uchiha praise and see uchiha so...

Lol say what now? and you know i hate uchihas because i don't agree with what people say?
@bold i think you answered the question already the manga isn't called uchiha its called naruto and i give me one reason i should hate on a piece of drawing?

 

[Da Best Ever]

But OP didnt refer to it has crutches he said they're haxxed, which generally means unfair, PS alone throws out the "ever jutsu have a weakness card" and it doesn't even seem chakra-taxing or anything because EMS Madara maintained it for the along time during the death match with Hashirama,

ever jutsu can be overcome just like itachi said...rid cage's can be broken, even if a shinobi hits a susano ribcage although the rib cage blocks the attack the force of it can still hurt the user as seen when chojuro hit sasuke's rib cage and sent him flying coughing up blood...a complete susano can be broken or maneuvered around as seen when danzo exploited the back of it vs sasuke....even a final susano can be broken as seen when tsuande and A broke madara's...perfect susano might be the toughest but just like all the other susano's sound genjutsu still affects the user...they arent unbeatable

 

[Da Best Ever]

Lol say what now? and you know i hate uchihas because i don't agree with what people say?
@bold i think you answered the question already the manga isn't called uchiha its called naruto and i give me one reason i should hate on a piece of drawing?

u always complain about uchiha's, whether its a uchiha vs someone else or and ability an uchiha has u always go with the opposite of them regardless if u are wrong or not...


and your right the manga isnt called uchiha but u are going to see uchiha more than u see any other group and u are going to see an uchiha as much as u see the main...

 

[Da Best Ever]

I do believe Da Best Ever's post has been misread. I think he was stating that if Susano'o is a crutch, then the seal and sand are also, being defensive abilities.

its sad a new member is capable of interpreting better than an old member that has debating things common to this...u have a bright future but remember leave emotions out of it or u will turn out like a certain nb debater...

 

[TrollKing]

Lol say what now? and you know i hate uchihas because i don't agree with what people say?
@bold i think you answered the question already the manga isn't called uchiha its called naruto and i give me one reason i should hate on a piece of drawing?

To beat the uchiha, just don't look at their eyes, no need to cry!!

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[Da Best Ever]

To beat the uchiha, just don't look at their eyes, no need to cry!!

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llab......

 

[Da Best Ever]

i guess i've made myself clear and the hater debater has left so im done here...shout out to Michael Jordan, iNoTorious, i **** with yall

 

[WithDemonsToLeanOn]

Not haxed, but over used. I think it seriously killed Sasuke's character, along with EMS.

As for Itachi and that fight, it's the first time we saw it, so I think it's fair use. Yeah, without he would've lost. But it was a new move and showed Itachi's power, and it was a rare move at that time. But since then it's become kinda lame and like you said, a crutch.

 

[TrollKing]

i guess i've made myself clear and the hater debater has left so im done here...shout out to Michael Jordan, iNoTorious, i **** with yall

I think I should go back to study radioactive decay instead of trolling here

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[Char Aznable]

susano, is materialization of the users chakra...so its there chakra that makes it...


so tsunade having 100 healings is a crutch for her to them since it protects her from almost anything...


gaara's sand defense is a crutch since it protects him from almost anything


....susano's are not a crutch...a crutch is something that u need to protect you...madara, sasuke and itachi are powerful without using susano, susano makes them even more powerful but they are still above most even without susano

Gaara's total defense faltered against Lee and Sasuke's taijutsu in Part I. Sasuke's chidori was able to pierce Gaara's sand sphere, and sand armor and draw blood. In "Inheritors of the Will of Fire" Naruto's rasengan was able to break Gaara's sand shield. While "Inheritors of the Will of Fire" is a movie, it's not a stretch to believe rasengan could do this in the canon of the manga.

Tsunade's 100's healings doesn't act as an impenetrable shield like Susanno does. 100 healings is a regen jutsu, that only works as long as a person has chakra and so far only Tsunade is shown to be capable of using it.

The aforementioned defenses are much different that an a nearly impregnable chakra cloak where the user can:
Launch powerful arrows from.
Attack with Amaterasu. A line of sight fire jutsu.
Tank lightning bolts.
Survive blows from incredibly strong characters (Raikage and Tsunade)
etc

I wouldn't mind Susanno as much if there were limitations put on it. Maybe and Ultraman limit of 3 minutes per day or something. When it was first introduced it was said to cause extreme discomfort to the eyes and body. That's all but disappeared now. There are no limitations or caveats to using it.


Ask yourself if other people had this jutsu?
If Naruto had Susanno, what would he do? He'd camp inside of it and launch rasen-shurikens at all of his opponents. With minor fears of someone breaking his cloak, he could compose himself and refill sage chakra continuously and continue hurling rasen-shurikens.

If Kakashi had a Susanno he would spam lightning blade and the variants. Also have very little concern for time in focusing Kamui on his opponents.

 

[htmwall]

susanoo in my humble opinion is the definition of a plot armour,it's almost unbreakable even in the lowest levels(ribcage) unless the oppenent has extreme physical power.(and there isn't so many of them,i dare anyone to list 10 peaple that can destroy a V2 susanoo and do harm to its user).
it can take anyone from fodder level to above any kages instantly by just having it.it was reasonable on MS since it had limits,and it actually cost chakra but with EMS it doesn't seem to use chakra at all,it became extremely annoying.
it doesn't require an intense training or learning at all,it's just suddenly awakened.
and it's extremely annoying(yeah i've said it again) and it robs the fun out of fights,since its user will never get hurt at all,there's no more the sense of danger and anticipation of the fights(a reason why i think madara vs kages one of the worst and most boring fights in the series).

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

Higher levels of susanoo= having a biju

There are about just as haxed-

I don't see the problem with Sasuke having it- he needs it to
Compete with biju--

Madara needed it to
Compete with Hashiramas Mokujin

Of
Course it's haxed compared to everybody else, the EMS, biju, rinnegan are the ultimate sources of power in the manga
- it's completely logical that the abilities provided at overpowering
- however, I will concede that kishi made a huge mistake when he completely disregarded chakra capacity. Sasuke doesnot even look tired when using susanoo+ Ammy combined ...

So, it's
Not susanoo that game breaking- it's the fact the Sasuke can keep t activated indefinitely.

 

[Mad Daz]

I agree that susanoo takes alot of the suspence away from a fight. Once the susanoo is out its no longer a ninja battle, its a stand still and see who shoots harder fight to see who wins. Its super OP but here are other abilities just as op, they just dont change the whole style of combat

 

[Rafeal brown]

It Is hardly uchiha fault that they have a deity that can protect them from almost anything...... people are just jealous cuz susanoo Is hax.....

 

[AGoodBoy]

Sharingan has always been haxed. It's been 1 shotting people from the very beginning of the manga.

Even kakashi used it to 1 shot zabuza by dropping him into a genjutsu and making him think he was doing shit on his own when he was actually being told what to do.