Do you think the hokage's will head to the war ??

[JIRAIYA perv]

Assumption. We have to go with the manga says, if they're going, they're going. Do you honestly think Kishimoto would let only Hashirama go while the other three Hokage just stand there restrained and enraged?

They aren't the strongest four Edo summons of all time, at all. Hashirama would be in there, and Tobirama would be in Top 10 as well as Minato, but Hiruzen wouldn't fit the bill as although he has unlimited chakra, he doesn't have infinite chakra. Furthermore, both Hiruzen and Minato were restrained before Tobirama was, and it took the amplification of Edo Tensei's restraining properties to hold back the likes of Tobirama (and Hashirama wasn't restrained at all, and he didn't even need to use Sage Mode), showing the difference between the first two Hokage and the last three.

ok ..... am not gona get into a Hiruzen underrating argument here ..... "unlimited chakra but not infinite" and you are the one who says lets go with what the manga said yet you seem to think hiruzen is not that strong while the writer already called him "god of the shinobi world" before :shrug:. tobirama is the creator of this jutsu (sure he has a couple of tricks when it come to THIS jutsu), as for hashirama he has his strong unique senju cells (everything about hashi will come down to his cells). like i said hashirama could be the only one able to break free (that is if he didn't already do it) and MAYBE tobirama but looking at how he was pissed, if he had something he would have already done it U_U (that doesn't show a difference in levels) am not trying to underrate tobirama or anything but you seemed to actually think that HIRUZEN is not as strong as the others :|

 

[Reidara]

Things are getting excited either way. I doubt the hokages are brought back just because Sasuke wants to know whether he can continue being a crybaby or finally get smart. I hope they join, it will be awesome seeing Naruto fighting together with his dad and there's the ridiculous (yea i said it) power of Hashirama. Just wait and see i guess.

 

[Kronnic]

Only if they release themselves from Edo-Tensei.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Only if they release themselves from Edo-Tensei.

is that my sig ..... LOL

 

[saw2097]

I doubt that they go to the battle field, and even if they do they won't be the ones to defeat Madara. That would be a cop out, and a ass pull. I suspect they are back for another reason, besides if you think Oro will keep his promise I have one question, have you read other chapters with this guy?

I suspect Oro is plotting a double cross.

 

[Midday]

Most likely, but I think they'd make it too uneven if they enter the war so i'd rather they didn't.

 

[Nature Sage]

That would be interesting, but considering Hashi's personality and circumstance I doubt he'll leave without at least attempting to free the others. That's if Oro was being sneaky and not upholding what he said (As usual). Considering the fact that Sasuke doesn't recieve what he needs in order to change his mind.. that outcome could be kinda, interesting too... Since Hashi broke free/has the ability to break free of the Edo. What happens after the story is up in the air at this point really.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Most likely, but I think they'd make it too uneven if they enter the war so i'd rather they didn't.

that's exactly my point, they would make the good guy's team stronger .....

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

They will definitely go to the battle Hashirama has to bring Madara back down to size

 

[Omnipotent]

ok ..... am not gona get into a Hiruzen underrating argument here ..... "unlimited chakra but not infinite" and you are the one who says lets go with what the manga said yet you seem to think hiruzen is not that strong while the writer already called him "god of the shinobi world" before :shrug:. tobirama is the creator of this jutsu (sure he has a couple of tricks when it come to THIS jutsu), as for hashirama he has his strong unique senju cells (everything about hashi will come down to his cells). like i said hashirama could be the only one able to break free (that is if he didn't already do it) and MAYBE tobirama but looking at how he was pissed, if he had something he would have already done it U_U (that doesn't show a difference in levels) am not trying to underrate tobirama or anything but you seemed to actually think that HIRUZEN is not as strong as the others :|

And how would him being called that during his era make him stronger than the other Hokage? I mean, when he was present in a room with Hashirama, it was Hashirama who was referred to as the God of Shinobi.
I'm not underrating him, if the manga shows that both he and Minato were restrained before Tobirama, that's saying something about their power compared to him (and then Hashirama wasn't restrained at all, even without the use of Sage Mode).

They obviously don't have an infinite amount of chakra. They do, however have unlimited chakra (they can use as much chakra as when they were alive, but it becomes replenished). This is supported by the manga, when Muu splits in half and attempts to use jinton, but can't because his chakra cap is too low. That is why I don't put Hiruzen in the Top 10 strongest Edos, his chakra cap is simply too low, regardless of whether or not they are replenished.

Once again, do you honestly think Kishimoto would let only Hashirama go while the other three Hokage just stand there restrained and enraged?

 

[Uchicha Macho]

I believe tobirama will fight sasuke.We must get a teaser of EMS sasuke power.

 

[TJ0001]

orochimaru: you can enter the battlefield after youve talked to us

yeah i think its a sure thing.

 

[saw2097]

I think the Hokages are back for something else, they might go to the battlefied but I doubt it will be the way we expect. I mean do you seriously think Orochimaru would willing free them. The only one that broke free was Hashirama while the other three are under Oro's control. I think Kishi did that for a big reason.

 

[itachi1000]

Well of course they're going to join the battle cause Kishi definitely needs something to make this war more interesting again.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

And how would him being called that during his era make him stronger than the other Hokage? I mean, when he was present in a room with Hashirama, it was Hashirama who was referred to as the God of Shinobi.
I'm not underrating him, if the manga shows that both he and Minato were restrained before Tobirama, that's saying something about their power compared to him (and then Hashirama wasn't restrained at all, even without the use of Sage Mode).

They obviously don't have an infinite amount of chakra. They do, however have unlimited chakra (they can use as much chakra as when they were alive, but it becomes replenished). This is supported by the manga, when Muu splits in half and attempts to use jinton, but can't because his chakra cap is too low. That is why I don't put Hiruzen in the Top 10 strongest Edos, his chakra cap is simply too low, regardless of whether or not they are replenished.

Once again, do you honestly think Kishimoto would let only Hashirama go while the other three Hokage just stand there restrained and enraged?

hehe muu split is not the same as hiruzen but i get what you mean by "they don't have unlimited chakra" and btw hashirama is the only one who wasn't restrained because of his power, tobirama had the upper hand simply because it's his jutsu (he is good in this situation so saying that he and hashi are on a different level is not very accurate, and honestly i think you're just giving extra credit to the guy in your avatar) and he got restrained again. any ways, what am saying is, i don't think ANY of them will be heading to the war (i hope am wrong btw coz seeing them there would be awesome lol) for three reasons :

1. its too good to be true.

2. why would oro (the one who seeks power) give up on these four monster edo's (even if you think that one of them is not that strong) he is still useful.

3. this will make the good guy's team way too much.

maybe they are back for another reason (still unknown) ...... it's just a thought, i keep on getting that feeling ......

 

[saw2097]

hehe muu split is not the same as hiruzen but i get what you mean by "they don't have unlimited chakra" and btw hashirama is the only one who wasn't restrained because of his power, tobirama had the upper hand simply because it's his jutsu (he is good in this situation so saying that he and hashi are on a different level is not very accurate (honestly i think you're just giving extra credit to the guy in your avatar) and he got restrained again. any ways, what am saying is, i don't think ANY of them will be heading to the war (i hope am wrong btw coz seeing them there would be awesome lol) for three reasons :

1. its too good to be true.

2. why would oro (the one who seeks power) give up on these four monster edo's (even if you think that one of them is not that strong) he is still useful.

3. this will make the good guy's team way too much.

maybe they are back for another reason (still unknown) ...... it's just a thought, i keep on getting that feeling ......

I agree with this guy. It would be too big of an advantage for the good guys, plus this is way too good to be true for the good guys.

I think they have a part to play but not the one we think, I think Kishi is setting up a big twist and not one that is good for the heroes.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

I agree with this guy. It would be too big of an advantage for the good guys, plus this is way too good to be true for the good guys.

I think they have a part to play but not the one we think, I think Kishi is setting up a big twist and not one that is good for the heroes.

thanks bro, i made this thread to just share this idea (some people are not understanding that it's just a thought lol).

 

[Omnipotent]

hehe muu split is not the same as hiruzen but i get what you mean by "they don't have unlimited chakra" and btw hashirama is the only one who wasn't restrained because of his power, tobirama had the upper hand simply because it's his jutsu (he is good in this situation so saying that he and hashi are on a different level is not very accurate, and honestly i think you're just giving extra credit to the guy in your avatar) and he got restrained again. any ways, what am saying is, i don't think ANY of them will be heading to the war (i hope am wrong btw coz seeing them there would be awesome lol) for three reasons :

1. its too good to be true.

2. why would oro (the one who seeks power) give up on these four monster edo's (even if you think that one of them is not that strong) he is still useful.

3. this will make the good guy's team way too much.

maybe they are back for another reason (still unknown) ...... it's just a thought, i keep on getting that feeling ......

Nope, according to the VIZ scan it was due to Tobirama's power, putting him above both Minato and Hiruzen:

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"The fact that you've upped the precision of the Edo Tensei since last time shall be your downfall... now that we've been revived at close to our original power... I am not someone who can be bound by the Edo Tensei of one such as yourself!". He was saying that before he could not break out because he was not revived at any where near his original power nor was Hashirama, but now that he is brought back close to his original power (which he states is Orochimaru's flaw), he cannot be bound by Orochimaru's Edo Tensei. If it were on his knowledge over the jutsu, why didn't he just break out before (even before Orochimaru put in the talisman)?

You change what you're saying multiple times. First, you say none of them will head there, then you say only one will (Hashirama), but then you return to saying that none of them will head there. If Kishimoto foreshadows it through Orochimaru, let it be.

 

[JDuzumaki92]

Orochimaru said that he will let them go after they answer Sasuke's questions

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Nope, according to the VIZ scan it was due to Tobirama's power, putting him above both Minato and Hiruzen:

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"The fact that you've upped the precision of the Edo Tensei since last time shall be your downfall... now that we've been revived at close to our original power... I am not someone who can be bound by the Edo Tensei of one such as yourself!". He was saying that before he could not break out because he was not revived at any where near his original power nor was Hashirama, but now that he is brought back close to his original power (which he states is Orochimaru's flaw), he cannot be bound by Orochimaru's Edo Tensei. If it were on his knowledge over the jutsu, why didn't he just break out before (even before Orochimaru put in the talisman)?

You change what you're saying multiple times. First, you say none of them will head there, then you say only one will (Hashirama), but then you return to saying that none of them will head there. If Kishimoto foreshadows it through Orochimaru, let it be.

"don't forget, am the one who devised this jutsu in the first place" you can't prove anything with this (don't place him with hashirama above all), and they were revived CLOSER to their original power not how you decided it to be "any where near their original power" (also if this edo jutsu is flawed then the same could be said about hiruzen and minato, they must be affected by this somehow). tobirama was a beast and one of the top 5 strongest on my list but don't give him extra credit.
dude it doesn't matter (your talking as if am saying too way too different things) read my original post, the thread well. i said that i don't think that ANY of the hokage's will go (for unknown reasons), and if anyone says "well hashi broke free" then he will be the only one who gets to go (witch will be a bit odd), either way we won't have the scene with the FOUR hokage's heading there (i gave you the reasons). i have a feeling that kishi will put them back away somehow ...... or maybe he got them back for another reason.

this is turning to a debate simply because i said something about tobirama ......