Do you think Sasuke beat Naruto fair and square at the VotE?

[Naruto9001]

Naruto doesn't summon Gamabunta regularly, almost never. Its not a regular part of his repertoire as it was for Jiraiya. He has tremendous difficulties summoning him as he's bad at it and summoning techniques are extremely difficult and could be a big waste of chakra if unsuccessful. He'd be better off putting that time and chakra to use in doing the Rasengan. I don't know why people always bring up Gamabunta for this fight.

Dosen't mean it isn't his power. Jiraya was only seen summoning Gamabunta like 2 times that's even less than Naruto so what is you talking about? Again do you know what your talking about? Naruto has almost limitless chakra so the "big waste of chakra" comment is irrelevant.

I think sasuke won fair and square, although I still think he is a douchbag. . . Not having the intent to kill isn't an excuse for losing. Its the same thing with the Naruto vs Pain thing. Pain had a ton of drawbacks and restrictions that prevented him from God-rapeing Naruto, but Naruto STILL won that fight no matter what anyone has to say (and this is coming from a self-admitted Nagato/Kimimaro Fanboy).

If he couldn't use his full power than it wasn't fair square.

 

[Byakuya K]

this is going to be hard to decide.

 

[Ninja Ayush]

Back then yes he did win but now if u ask ,sasuke would have to strive harder to win and moreover he also would not be as fair as earlier.....

 

[Fearmonger]

Dosen't mean it isn't his power. Jiraya was only seen summoning Gamabunta like 2 times that's even less than Naruto so what is you talking about? Again do you know what your talking about? Naruto has almost limitless chakra so the "big waste of chakra" comment is irrelevant.



If he couldn't use his full power than it wasn't fair square.

He planned to break every bone in his body. If thats not fighting at full power then I dont know what is...

 

[Exaar]

He planned to break every bone in his body. If thats not fighting at full power then I dont know what is...

Well naruto wasn't using everything he had, Since summoning Jutsu was easily his most powerful tech back in his genin days.

The reason why he most likely didn't summon him was because he only wanted to "Break every bone in his body", gamabunta would of most likely killed him because of him betraying.

 

[Tartarus]

Yes, I think so. Although Naruto was fighting before he got to Sasuke, he did get soldier pills from Choji.

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Naruto could have potentially tied with Sasuke, but the fact remains Sasuke won that fight fair. You don't win fights with "could have".

 

[BlackBison]

If chakra is the only argument people are going to throw out there, then people need to realize that nobody used up all their chakra in that fight.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

It was Pain's personal choice to fight Naruto with Deva not working yet people won't agree that Pain lost fair and square. Pain also should have known what he was getting himself into by choosing to capture, instead of kill Naruto. Does that mean SM Naruto can beat Pain? NO! It was simply fortunate circumstances. A real battle would be the one Gaara and Naruto fought, both parties doing everything in their power to kill the other, without holding back their abilities for even a moment. As long as Naruto still had a jutsu he could perform that we know without a doubt would have killed Sasuke should Naruto have used it which is summoning Bunta or actually attempting a kill move when he had the advantage. We all know Sasuke did. He pierced Naruto's lung with a Chidori. Bloodlusted Naruto would have killed Sasuke and headed home by instantly tapping into the Kyubi's power from the get-go and tearing his head off with a kunai before he even got the three tomoe Sharingan.

 

[Tartarus]

It was Pain's personal choice to fight Naruto with Deva not working yet people won't agree that Pain lost fair and square. Pain also should have known what he was getting himself into by choosing to capture, instead of kill Naruto. Does that mean SM Naruto can beat Pain? NO! It was simply fortunate circumstances. A real battle would be the one Gaara and Naruto fought, both parties doing everything in their power to kill the other, without holding back their abilities for even a moment. As long as Naruto still had a jutsu he could perform that we know without a doubt would have killed Sasuke should Naruto have used it which is summoning Bunta or actually attempting a kill move when he had the advantage. We all know Sasuke did. He pierced Naruto's lung with a Chidori. Bloodlusted Naruto would have killed Sasuke and headed home by instantly tapping into the Kyubi's power from the get-go and tearing his head off with a kunai before he even got the three tomoe Sharingan.

1.Gamabunta isn't fighting a kid, and Naruto's summoning only worked half the time.
2.No SM Naruto lost to Pain, but Naruto still won due to his kurama powers. So yes, Naruto still won that fight in my book.
3a.)Naruto tapping to into kurama chakra would just get countered by Sasuke's curse mark
3b.)The decapitation argument is flawed. First off Sasuke already has a much faster base speed, so no if anyone went for the quick kill argument, it would be in Sasuke's favor. Secondly, the speedblitz decapitation argument is extremely flimsy. By that logic, Kakashi could have just decapitated Kakauzu, Itachi could just decapitate Hashirama, Guy could just decapitate Jiraiya, etc, etc

 

[Amaterasuice]

Sasuke is never going to be as strong as Madara. Madara is far more skilled with the EMS and have 1000x more knowledge. Like if that wasn't enough, he have full control over Senju DNA. My god, I forgot to mention the Rinnegan...

Most likely wrong....people said that about Sasuke and Kakashi in pt1, now Sasuke >>Kakashi, at the very least.

Give Sasuke a few years (at most) and he will surpass Madara.

 

[Naruto9001]

He planned to break every bone in his body. If thats not fighting at full power then I dont know what is...

But then he went on to scratching his headband yeah that contradicts what you just said. Naruto was SO much stronger than Sasuke during that time that he needed TWO power ups [The first one was after the first fight aganist a Base Naruto and the second one was when he unlocked the three toome] just to fight on par with a Naruto that didn't have the intent to kill.

1.Gamabunta isn't fighting a kid, and Naruto's summoning only worked half the time.
2.No SM Naruto lost to Pain, but Naruto still won due to his kurama powers. So yes, Naruto still won that fight in my book.
3a.)Naruto tapping to into kurama chakra would just get countered by Sasuke's curse mark
3b.)The decapitation argument is flawed. First off Sasuke already has a much faster base speed, so no if anyone went for the quick kill argument, it would be in Sasuke's favor. Secondly, the speedblitz decapitation argument is extremely flimsy. By that logic, Kakashi could have just decapitated Kakauzu, Itachi could just decapitate Hashirama, Guy could just decapitate Jiraiya, etc, etc

1. Explain why Gamabunta wouldn't fight Sasuke and why summoning him wouldn't work......im waiting.....

3a. Are you implying that Sasuke can beat a 1 Tailed Naruto with the intent to kill?

3b. It has already been showed that Sasuke cant dodge Naruto's chakra arms.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

1.Gamabunta isn't fighting a kid, and Naruto's summoning only worked half the time.
2.No SM Naruto lost to Pain, but Naruto still won due to his kurama powers. So yes, Naruto still won that fight in my book.
3a.)Naruto tapping to into kurama chakra would just get countered by Sasuke's curse mark
3b.)The decapitation argument is flawed. First off Sasuke already has a much faster base speed, so no if anyone went for the quick kill argument, it would be in Sasuke's favor. Secondly, the speedblitz decapitation argument is extremely flimsy. By that logic, Kakashi could have just decapitated Kakauzu, Itachi could just decapitate Hashirama, Guy could just decapitate Jiraiya, etc, etc

Gamabunta is fighting anybody Naruto tells him to fight. There is no way the toad will just leave and the decapitation argument isn't flimsy. Naruto's battle with Gaara, Neji and Kimimaro showed that he can tap into Kurama's power at will. When he met Sasuke and Sasuke was beating him up with his curse seal enhancements then Chidori'd his chest, he refused to use Kurama or even take the fight seriously. When he did, he tapped into Kurama then started beating up the Uchiha but instead of using a kill move like Sasuke did, he just beat him up and was telling him to wake up, imagine if he said 'Rasengan!' instead of wake up? Sasuke can't regenerate it like Naruto regenerated his Chidori and he would die or be gravely injured or if Naruto just stabbed him with a kunai?