[Question] Do you think Roger is the strongest man in the manga timeline?

[Fireplay]

The leaders of an organization are always the strongest in OP. So all 5 of them together should be the strongest force in the WG. RA<VA<Admiral<Fleet Admiral<Commander In Chief<Gorosei. It wouldn't make any sense for the pattern to just stop at the Gorosei. I would guess that an individual Gorosei is admiral level.

So if the Gorosei are so strong then why was Roger roaming the seas freely? Why didn't they just go over there with their over 9000 power level and whoop his ass? or why don't they just go and solo the Yonko?

Nope. Im not buying them being admiral level. Admirals are WG's strongest force and legitimately top-tier. Sure in their prime the could've been strong but they aren't admiral level now. You expect me to believe that we have 5 admiral level fighters just sippin and chilling all in the same room? Nope.

And Gorosei aren't a part of the marines. The Gorosei rule the WG, they aren't marines therefore they don't have to be>admirals or the FA.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

So if the Gorosei are so strong then why was Roger roaming the seas freely? Why didn't they just go over there with their over 9000 power level and whoop his ass? or why don't they just go and solo the Yonko?

Nope. Im not buying them being admiral level. Admirals are WG's strongest force and legitimately top-tier. Sure in their prime the could've been strong but they aren't admiral level now. You expect me to believe that we have 5 admiral level fighters just sippin and chilling all in the same room? Nope.

And Gorosei aren't a part of the marines. The Gorosei rule the WG, they aren't marines therefore they don't have to be>admirals or the FA.

If you read the Scaling The Red Line Theory made by Beck26 he says that the staff held by one of the Gorosei is half of Uranus. That half has the power to prolong their life and the other half(which is One Piece)can revive someone. The reason the Gorosei couldnt leave Mariejois and fight Roger is because that would leave Uranus unprotected, and if they bring it with them it would risk being destroyed. They cannot let Uranus break or else they will die from old age since they are about 800-900 years old. It is possible that his theory is wrong, but I believe that he is telling the truth about the Gorosei. Besides, the Gorosei have scars on their body and one of them carries a sword. That sword isn't your average sword, it is Shodai Kitetsu, one of the 12 Saijo O Wazomoni Grade Swords(which is the best type of swords, they are even stronger than Zoro's Ichimonji and Shusui). In the end it all comes down to what you believe is going to happen.

 

[ultraChalk]

"Prime Gorosei were PK level" Thats whats funny.

I didn't know that you knew the full extent of Rogers power.
I didn't know you knew the full extent of Prime Gorosei's power either.
I thought it would be okay to just ask, and I never said that they were. I just implied the possibility that they could be, or could not be.

 

[Fireplay]

If you read the Scaling The Red Line Theory made by Beck26 he says that the staff held by one of the Gorosei is half of Uranus. That half has the power to prolong their life and the other half(which is One Piece)can revive someone. The reason the Gorosei couldnt leave Mariejois and fight Roger is because that would leave Uranus unprotected, and if they bring it with them it would risk being destroyed. They cannot let Uranus break or else they will die from old age since they are about 800-900 years old. It is possible that his theory is wrong, but I believe that he is telling the truth about the Gorosei. Besides, the Gorosei have scars on their body and one of them carries a sword. That sword isn't your average sword, it is Shodai Kitetsu, one of the 12 Saijo O Wazomoni Grade Swords(which is the best type of swords, they are even stronger than Zoro's Ichimonji and Shusui). In the end it all comes down to what you believe is going to happen.

I've read the theory. But thats all it is, a theory. Sure the Gorosei could go and fight Roger but what makes you think that they wouldn't get their asses whopped? and i've read the theory about the Gorosei's sword being the Shodai Kitetsu which again is a theory. Oda hasn't even drawn the Shodai Kitetsu so assuming that the sword that the Gorosei has is Shodai Kitetsu is a very ridiculous claim. Also, even if he had it, it wouldn't matter.

Shanks, Rayleigh, Roger were all rocking normal swords yet Shanks was having daily duels with Mihawk and his Kokutou Yoru (the strongest swords in the world). Shanks rivals Yoru with an ordinary cutlass U_U

The quality of your sword doesn't matter. Hell, that bald Gorosei guy could be Kitetsu himself.
Scaling The Red Line is simply a theory, albeit it seems to be a very accurate theory it is still a theory. Oda has always been unpredictable.

I didn't know that you knew the full extent of Rogers power.
I didn't know you knew the full extent of Prime Gorosei's power either.
I thought it would be okay to just ask, and I never said that they were. I just implied the possibility that they could be, or could not be.

Lel, i could say the same thing. Im laughing at the idea of the Gorosei being PK level. Why are you trying to turn that into an argument?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I've read the theory. But thats all it is, a theory. Sure the Gorosei could go and fight Roger but what makes you think that they wouldn't get their asses whopped? and i've read the theory about the Gorosei's sword being the Shodai Kitetsu which again is a theory. Oda hasn't even drawn the Shodai Kitetsu so assuming that the sword that the Gorosei has is Shodai Kitetsu is a very ridiculous claim. Also, even if he had it, it wouldn't matter.

Shanks, Rayleigh, Roger were all rocking normal swords yet Shanks was having daily duels with Mihawk and his Kokutou Yoru (the strongest swords in the world). Shanks rivals Yoru with an ordinary cutlass U_U

The quality of your sword doesn't matter. Hell, that bald Gorosei guy could be Kitetsu himself.
Scaling The Red Line is simply a theory, albeit it seems to be a very accurate theory it is still a theory. Oda has always been unpredictable.
Lel, i could say the same thing. Im laughing at the idea of the Gorosei being PK level. Why are you trying to turn that into an argument?

I doubt that Shanks is a full fledged swordsman like Zoro and Mihawk. If he is then that would man that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks.

 

[SSS12]

Strongest? No. He's tied with Prime WB. Something tells me there are/were characters a touch stronger though. I don't why I feel that way though. Just a hunch.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Strongest? No. He's tied with Prime WB. Something tells me there are/were characters a touch stronger though. I don't why I feel that way though. Just a hunch.

I think it might be Joyboy.

 

[Fireplay]

I doubt that Shanks is a full fledged swordsman like Zoro and Mihawk. If he is then that would man that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks.

My point isn't that he's a full fledged swordsman. My point is that Shanks was able to rival mihawk with a cutlass while Mihawk had Yoru, the strongest sword in the world.

The sword you have doesn't matter, its the guy behind the sword that matters.

Mihawk neg-diffed Zoro with a butter knife.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

My point isn't that he's a full fledged swordsman. My point is that Shanks was able to rival mihawk with a cutlass while Mihawk had Yoru, the strongest sword in the world.

The sword you have doesn't matter, its the guy behind the sword that matters.

Mihawk neg-diffed Zoro with a butter knife.

The sword does matter some, or else Mihawk wouldn't have used a butter knife against Zoro if he was still just as strong with it.

 

[Fireplay]

The sword does matter some, or else Mihawk wouldn't have used a butter knife against Zoro if he was still just as strong with it.

Changing a sword into a butter knife doesn't take away a swordsmans skills. All it takes is attack power and range. The swordsman himself remains the same nonetheless.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Changing a sword into a butter knife doesn't take away a swordsmans skills. All it takes is attack power and range. The swordsman himself remains the same nonetheless.

Regular swords don't have has much power or durability as graded swords, that's why Zoro's Ichimonji didn't even get a crack on it, but his 2 regular swords broke when Mihawk attacked him with Yoru. So having a Saijo O Wazomoni Graded Sword(Shodai Kitetsu) would help the Gorosei.

 

[Fireplay]

Regular swords don't have has much power or durability as graded swords, that's why Zoro's Ichimonji didn't even get a crack on it, but his 2 regular swords broke when Mihawk attacked him with Yoru. So having a Saijo O Wazomoni Graded Sword(Shodai Kitetsu) would help the Gorosei.

Yes but even if a Graded sword would help it doesn't mean that it puts a character above another one if the other one is far more skilled then you. Proven how Zoro got stomped even with a graded sword. The fact that his sword didn't break only further helps my point. Mihawk beat him with a butter knife even though his sword withstood a slash from Yoru and didn't break.

The swordsman is what matters not the sword.

 

[ultraChalk]

Lel, i could say the same thing. Im laughing at the idea of the Gorosei being PK level. Why are you trying to turn that into an argument?

No, you couldn't say the same thing, because all I did was ask a question, while you were making statements of Gorosei not being PK level, as if you knew it for a fact.

And there's no argument to be had here, just your illiberal opinion that is intolerant of possibilities.

Anyway, you think they're weak and that's that, so whateva.

 

[bajram]

WB and Roger are the strongest guys, its not like Roger was stronger and thats the reason he became PK, WB wasnt interested in it while Roger loved adventure and made it to the raftel but in terms of power they are dead even, oh and if we are talking about all OP storyline then the void century will show us something sperior to WB/Roger.

Gorosei are irrelevant in this discussion they are featless and not portrayed as fighting characters, for all we know they can be only there for politics, the confidence in ruling the world is definitely not in the gorosei power or even the navys full power, its definitely something linked to the void century that makes the WG the ruler of the world, maybe they posses the key to an ancient weapon, or a weapon of mass destruction I mean an inviduals power is not everything we have seen more terrible things that u cant fight such as ceasar gas at PH, WG having vegapunk on their side and a rutheless ruler like Akainu can make them use some weapon of mass destruction or even revive an AW for that matter, that said u cant classify the gorosei as fighters unless the manga shows it, till then the void century holds the key to the story of OP.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

So you believe he's the strongest man in OP history to ever live?

Yes, I believe

 

[VongolaX]

He's not as strong as we think or hype him up to be.

He's not too far off from Rayleigh

 

[SSS12]

I think it might be Joyboy.

Could be. But then I wonder how we'll know if he's stronger or not if he actually is very strong. Hmmm...

He's not as strong as we think or hype him up to be.

He's not too far off from Rayleigh

I agree with this. Prime Roger and Rayleigh shouldn't be too far apart. But I think a lot of people will disagree with this or maybe overrate them both tremendously.

 

[Love Cook]

The leaders of an organization are always the strongest in OP. So all 5 of them together should be the strongest force in the WG. RA<VA<Admiral<Fleet Admiral<Commander In Chief<Gorosei. It wouldn't make any sense for the pattern to just stop at the Gorosei. I would guess that an individual Gorosei is admiral level.

Why can't they just be the head or an organ who decides who goes where. Why does everybody need to be able to fight ? So do you also think that Obama is the world's strongest man or do you think he became president and the leader for different reasons ?

When do you think they will come into play if they're that strong ? Luffy has no business with them. Why would he go to Marijois in the first place ?

 

[Tomato God]

Why can't they just be the head or an organ who decides who goes where. Why does everybody need to be able to fight ? So do you also think that Obama is the world's strongest man or do you think he became president and the leader for different reasons ?

When do you think they will come into play if they're that strong ? Luffy has no business with them. Why would he go to Marijois in the first place ?

Obama For Final Villan

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Why can't they just be the head or an organ who decides who goes where. Why does everybody need to be able to fight ? So do you also think that Obama is the world's strongest man or do you think he became president and the leader for different reasons ?

When do you think they will come into play if they're that strong ? Luffy has no business with them. Why would he go to Marijois in the first place ?

Are you seriously comparing One Piece to the real world? Remember what WB said "Once someone(Luffy) finds that great treasure(One Piece) the entire world will be engulfed in war," it would be foolish to believe that Luffy and the WG wouldn't participate. The Gorosei have scars on their bodies and one of them carries a sword(it might be Shodai Kitetsu). Why would they have scars on their face and carry a sword if they weren't fighters?