[Discussion] Do you think Rayleigh, Shanks and Garp will live to see Luffy make it?

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So do you guys think that Lord Rayleigh-sama, Shanks and Garp will see Luffy become the Pirate King?

Rayleigh and Shanks always talk about how special Luffy is. I've always wanted them to see Luffy become the Pirate King and see their reaction as their captain and Garp's rival gets surpassed. But some people are theorizing that these three will die before Luffy makes it...Not cool.
 

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I've always believed Shanks would die at the hands of Blackbeard, further fueling Luffy's hate towards him.
 
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Rayleigh: Yes
Shanks: Yes
Garp: No
 

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I always thought that Garp or Shanks will be killed by Blackbeard.

I think Rayleigh may live to see that day.
 

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Only Rayleigh

I believe Shanks will die by the hands of BlackBeard thus Luffy never getting the chance to return his hat

Garp will die in the second war where Luffy will find himself in Ace's situation and will be on the recieving end of an Akainu punch but this time Garp will save him and have a semi long fight with Akainu but will ultimately get killed and making Luffy so mad that he kills Akainu at the end of it
 

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Shanks: I see Blackbeard killing him once he defeats him. It seems something Blackbeard would do against someone who later could potentially stop him from achieving his dream. Luffy also won't need to return the strawhat.
Garp: 50/50. If he stays cool with the things going on in the WG then I don't see him dying. If he decides to turn against the WG, I think Akainu will be ordered by the Gorosei to put an end to him.
Rayleigh: Don't really see a reason for him to die. He retired and isn't making any noise. Basically, one of his purposes now is to go wow, so this man has surpassed my Captain so that we know when Luffy has reached the level only Roger and WB managed to get at.
 
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Only Rayleigh

I believe Shanks will die by the hands of BlackBeard thus Luffy never getting the chance to return his hat

Garp will die in the second war where Luffy will find himself in Ace's situation and will be on the recieving end of an Akainu punch but this time Garp will save him and have a semi long fight with Akainu but will ultimately get killed and making Luffy so mad that he kills Akainu at the end of it
Oda said that Luffy isn't the type of person to kill someone. I'm sure he'll just kick his ass hard to the point where he's handicapped.
 

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Oda said that Luffy isn't the type of person to kill someone. I'm sure he'll just kick his ass hard to the point where he's handicapped.

Well I doubt you are the type of person that would just kill someone cause they took something from you but when that person kills not one but two people who you care about the most I doubt you will think about your principles...

I am just saying that Luffy will be pushed to that point where he will go into rage mode and beat him so hard he will eventually die slowly and painfully
 

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Shanks is going to die at the hands of Blackbeard.

I don't know about Garp or Rayleigh could go either way.
 

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They will all see him, rayleigh is sabaody, garp is retired from the marines, he is only an instructor.

And i don't see a point of shanks dying.
 

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I think most people can agree Shanks will die at the end of the series going by the overall feel of the series. Rayleigh won't die. Garp is debatable, but I don't think he'll die either.
 

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Garp's death will not only fuel luffy, but will fuel his son Dragon even more.

But i think they will see that day, maybe not shanks?
 

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Uh idk Shanks dying by the hands of BB seems pretty cliche to me :l

I don't know how I'll handle his death :(
 

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Well, Correct me if im wrong but somewhere luffy said that after 2 years they will going back to their own hometowns.
 

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Well I doubt you are the type of person that would just kill someone cause they took something from you but when that person kills not one but two people who you care about the most I doubt you will think about your principles...

I am just saying that Luffy will be pushed to that point where he will go into rage mode and beat him so hard he will eventually die slowly and painfully

Nah. Oda himself said that the reason Luffy doesn't kill isn't because of principles. He said that in Luffy's opinion killing someone lets them off too easy. Beating someone up and letting them see how their dream gets destroyed is a more fitting punishment.
 

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They will all see him, rayleigh is sabaody, garp is retired from the marines, he is only an instructor.

And i don't see a point of shanks dying.

Well Shanks dying at the hands of Blackbeard would completely fuel Luffy's anger, also with Blackbeard killing Shanks there wouldn't be a Luffy vs Shanks which makes sense since I doubt Oda would have Luffy ever give up his Strawhat unless for two reasons. (1. Pass it onto the next generation of Pirates (2) Placing it on Shank's grave at the EoS)

As much as it would probably suck but Shanks dying makes a lot of sense plot wise considering Blackbeard is going to be either Luffy's EoS fight or 2nd last and Shanks vs Blackbeard is a certain at some point in the future.

Also if Blackbeard beats Shanks and Luffy beats Blackbeard Luffy it can be seen as Luffy surpassing Shanks which would be a lot better than Luffy fighting Shanks as it makes no sense.

I suppose it'll be like Ace, even though Shanks is boss character his death would make the story a lot more interesting and entertaining not to mention it'll show Oda isn't like both Kishi and Kubo who are afraid to kill fan favorite characters.

Uh idk Shanks dying by the hands of BB seems pretty cliche to me :l

I don't know how I'll handle his death

Meh, depends on how you look at it. Shanks surviving while seeing Luffy being Pirate King and everyone being alive and happy for him seems a little to cliche for me.

Shanks death wouldn't be cliche so to say I think it's more the fact that it's quite predictable in a good way due to the hype Oda is giving us around the whole Blackbeard Pirates vs The Red Hair Pirates.

I'll probably cry if/when Shanks dies especially if Amv's are made around it.
 

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Nah. Oda himself said that the reason Luffy doesn't kill isn't because of principles. He said that in Luffy's opinion killing someone lets them off too easy. Beating someone up and letting them see how their dream gets destroyed is a more fitting punishment.

Aw man that sounds so bad@$$ it would be awesome is someone in the series begged luffy to kill them after he beats them and then he says that
 
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