Do you think Naruto can defeat Sasuke?

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First I want people to understand. Naruto has a freaking demon fox inside of him, if that isn’t the ultimate handicap I don’t know what is, I mean look at the facts, someone like Sasuke has had to work hard as hell to get where he is and that’s just to increase the base powers in his genetics. That’s the powers that he was born with that have been passed down. Someone like naruto doesn’t have those skills, throughout the whole series naruto has relied on the demon fox’s power not his own, countless times he was supposed to die, even in the fight with gaara he was supposed to die but the freaking fox kept him alive, name one time sasuke didn’t just rely on his natural abilities to accomplish his goals. Naruto has been trained by the best only because he is really only one the few to have the amount of Chakra to do those things and the crazy part is it’s not even his power!!!!! There is no way in hell a base naruto with no power given to him by the demon fox could beat sasuke and everyone here knows it, The only reason he will win is because the show is named after him, not because he is the strongest not because he worked his ass off and not because he dreams about being hokage. He is a joke and it’s sad to see so many other deserving shinobi that have worked hard with no crutches not reach his level all because he basically has the strongest freaking thing inside of him, I mean come one its bogus.

And another thing, lee could have beaten gaara if he didnt have the one tail, My point is the only reason naruto is strong is because of the nine tails without it he would be krillin from dragon ball z at best.
 

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Interviews are not proof... Naruto sage>MS, unless you are saying sasuke with MS could beat 5/6 paths of pain... KM~EMS We don't know what EMS is fully capable of, and either way,, Kyuubi with beat it.

Personally, I am getting fed up of all the Sasuke fanboys...
Rasengan, chakra of nature being wind > chidoro-nature being lightning
Naruto has 10+ forms of rasengan, while sasuke have like 3 forms of chidori...
In SM, naruto excels more then sasuke in taijutsu (for proof look at naruto vs pain).

I have said it three times in this thread, these are all assumptions...i know rasengan is the most power A rank ninjutu.
 

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First I want people to understand. Naruto has a freaking demon fox inside of him, if that isn’t the ultimate handicap I don’t know what is, I mean look at the facts, someone like Sasuke has had to work hard as hell to get where he is and that’s just to increase the base powers in his genetics. That’s the powers that he was born with that have been passed down. Someone like naruto doesn’t have those skills, throughout the whole series naruto has relied on the demon fox’s power not his own, countless times he was supposed to die, even in the fight with gaara he was supposed to die but the freaking fox kept him alive, name one time sasuke didn’t just rely on his natural abilities to accomplish his goals. Naruto has been trained by the best only because he is really only one the few to have the amount of Chakra to do those things and the crazy part is it’s not even his power!!!!! There is no way in hell a base naruto with no power given to him by the demon fox could beat sasuke and everyone here knows it, The only reason he will win is because the show is named after him, not because he is the strongest not because he worked his ass off and not because he dreams about being hokage. He is a joke and it’s sad to see so many other deserving shinobi that have worked hard with no crutches not reach his level all because he basically has the strongest freaking thing inside of him, I mean come one its bogus.

And another thing, lee could have beaten gaara if he didnt have the one tail, My point is the only reason naruto is strong is because of the nine tails without it he would be krillin from dragon ball z at best.

wow, I can tell you just started getting interested in naruto with this post. you have that 100% backwards. sasuke was a born genius, he didnt have to work hard for anything, it all came natural to him whereas naruto trained everyday til he couldnt stand anymore. the nine-tail thats in naruto was not a good thing in the beginning, it was a main reason naruto had such bad chakra control. having a huge chakra flowing thru and mixing with your own can create problems with controlling it so naruto had to work even harder to make up for that. Naruto also had a huge chakra supply of his own w/o the nine-tails and if you need a reminder, naruto learned the rasegan all on his own and he learned sage mode on his own, both of those w/o the nine-tails. so before you start talking get your facts right so you dont look stupid again!
 

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First I want people to understand. Naruto has a freaking demon fox inside of him, if that isn’t the ultimate handicap I don’t know what is, I mean look at the facts, someone like Sasuke has had to work hard as hell to get where he is and that’s just to increase the base powers in his genetics. That’s the powers that he was born with that have been passed down. Someone like naruto doesn’t have those skills, throughout the whole series naruto has relied on the demon fox’s power not his own, countless times he was supposed to die, even in the fight with gaara he was supposed to die but the freaking fox kept him alive, name one time sasuke didn’t just rely on his natural abilities to accomplish his goals. Naruto has been trained by the best only because he is really only one the few to have the amount of Chakra to do those things and the crazy part is it’s not even his power!!!!! There is no way in hell a base naruto with no power given to him by the demon fox could beat sasuke and everyone here knows it, The only reason he will win is because the show is named after him, not because he is the strongest not because he worked his ass off and not because he dreams about being hokage. He is a joke and it’s sad to see so many other deserving shinobi that have worked hard with no crutches not reach his level all because he basically has the strongest freaking thing inside of him, I mean come one its bogus.

And another thing, lee could have beaten gaara if he didnt have the one tail, My point is the only reason naruto is strong is because of the nine tails without it he would be krillin from dragon ball z at best.

and one more thing, one of naruto's strongest abilities and what makes him special above the others is his remarkable ability to change ppl. he didnt get that from the nine-tails either and he is even starting to change the NT, something that would be impossible for any1 else. so yea!!
 

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Not yet, the have to be equal and since sasuke got an upgrade (EMS) naruto wont be equal until he gets an upgrade (full kyuubi mode)
 

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For now its tough to decide since we havnt seen any latest stuff from sasuke EMS...Yet still sasuke is still better but naruto would have an edge at the end due to kyubi chakra reserved
 

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i think tht fight will end in a draw
 

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First I want people to understand. Naruto has a freaking demon fox inside of him, if that isn’t the ultimate handicap I don’t know what is, I mean look at the facts, someone like Sasuke has had to work hard as hell to get where he is and that’s just to increase the base powers in his genetics. That’s the powers that he was born with that have been passed down. Someone like naruto doesn’t have those skills, throughout the whole series naruto has relied on the demon fox’s power not his own, countless times he was supposed to die, even in the fight with gaara he was supposed to die but the freaking fox kept him alive, name one time sasuke didn’t just rely on his natural abilities to accomplish his goals. Naruto has been trained by the best only because he is really only one the few to have the amount of Chakra to do those things and the crazy part is it’s not even his power!!!!! There is no way in hell a base naruto with no power given to him by the demon fox could beat sasuke and everyone here knows it, The only reason he will win is because the show is named after him, not because he is the strongest not because he worked his ass off and not because he dreams about being hokage. He is a joke and it’s sad to see so many other deserving shinobi that have worked hard with no crutches not reach his level all because he basically has the strongest freaking thing inside of him, I mean come one its bogus.

And another thing, lee could have beaten gaara if he didnt have the one tail, My point is the only reason naruto is strong is because of the nine tails without it he would be krillin from dragon ball z at best.

Everytime he ever used Cursed Seal ever...
 

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We have to wait until Sasuke displays some feats with his ems. Comparing the two right now would essentially be putting Naruto up against MS Sasuke and Naruto would destroy that Sasuke.



So Naruto was ahead of Sasuke at the beginning of shippuden? No I don't think so. Sasuke wiped the floor with team 7 without even really trying.

team 7 is nothing when he is in sage mode lol...draw against sasuke but they both are equal as of now both th guys dont know their powers yet !!
 

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First I want people to understand. Naruto has a freaking demon fox inside of him, if that isn’t the ultimate handicap I don’t know what is, I mean look at the facts, someone like Sasuke has had to work hard as hell to get where he is and that’s just to increase the base powers in his genetics. That’s the powers that he was born with that have been passed down. Someone like naruto doesn’t have those skills, throughout the whole series naruto has relied on the demon fox’s power not his own, countless times he was supposed to die, even in the fight with gaara he was supposed to die but the freaking fox kept him alive, name one time sasuke didn’t just rely on his natural abilities to accomplish his goals. Naruto has been trained by the best only because he is really only one the few to have the amount of Chakra to do those things and the crazy part is it’s not even his power!!!!! There is no way in hell a base naruto with no power given to him by the demon fox could beat sasuke and everyone here knows it, The only reason he will win is because the show is named after him, not because he is the strongest not because he worked his ass off and not because he dreams about being hokage. He is a joke and it’s sad to see so many other deserving shinobi that have worked hard with no crutches not reach his level all because he basically has the strongest freaking thing inside of him, I mean come one its bogus.

And another thing, lee could have beaten gaara if he didnt have the one tail, My point is the only reason naruto is strong is because of the nine tails without it he would be krillin from dragon ball z at best.

Somebody is a Sasuke fanboy....
In case you have forgotten, Naruto learned Rasengan by himself. With no help from the fox. Also, he developed Rasenshuriken also without the fox. Furthermore, he learned Sage Mode without the fox. Just beacuse Naruto has the Nine Tails in him, doesn't mean that's the first thing he goes to. I mean, he defeated 5 of the 6 Pains using Sage Mode. It's already been proven that the Uchiha could subdue kyuubi, so it's not like it's much help when it comes to facing Sasuke (except probably Kyuubi Mode) Being a jinchuuriki is not easy work. I don't think anybody else would have been able to handle the fox the way Naruto has. The only handicap Naruto has is that he is the son of the Fourth Hokage and a former jinchuuriki. Naruto is strong because of his perseverance and determination. He never gives up, even when it looks like he is gonna lose. He still hounding after Sasuke, and it's been clear that Sasuke doesn't want to go back to being good. And if you want to talk about not working for power, what about Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan? He basically kept on using his regular MS until he started to get blurry vision, and then he's like, "Well, it's time for an upgrade. Tobi, where are Itachi's eyes?" But of course, following Orochimaru around for power, and then going to Tobi is VERY hard work, Sasuke has worked SO HARD for every ounce of power he has. If you want to talk about handicaps, what about the battle between Bee and Sasuke? If it hadn't been for his team, he would have been dead. That'sjust embarrasing on all sorts of levels. He probably had Itachi rolling around in his grave, or coffin, or whatever. So, in a friggin nutshell, YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID! Good day.
 
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Somebody is a Sasuke fanboy....
In case you have forgotten, Naruto learned Rasengan by himself. With no help from the fox. Also, he developed Rasenshuriken also without the fox. Furthermore, he learned Sage Mode without the fox. Just beacuse Naruto has the Nine Tails in him, doesn't mean that's the first thing he goes to. I mean, he defeated 5 of the 6 Pains using Sage Mode. It's already been proven that the Uchiha could subdue kyuubi, so it's not like it's much help when it comes to facing Sasuke (except probably Kyuubi Mode) Being a jinchuuriki is not easy work. I don't think anybody else would have been able to handle the fox the way Naruto has. The only handicap Naruto has is that he is the son of the Fourth Hokage and a former jinchuuriki. Naruto is strong because of his perseverance and determination. He never gives up, even when it looks like he is gonna lose. He still hounding after Sasuke, and it's been clear that Sasuke doesn't want to go back to being good. And if you want to talk about not working for power, what about Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan? He basically kept on using his regular MS until he started to get blurry vision, and then he's like, "Well, it's time for an upgrade. Tobi, where are Itachi's eyes?" But of course, following Orochimaru around for power, and then going to Tobi is VERY hard work, Sasuke has worked SO HARD for every ounce of power he has. If you want to talk about handicaps, what about the battle between Bee and Sasuke? If it hadn't been for his team, he would have been dead. That'sjust embarrasing on all sorts of levels. He probably had Itachi rolling around in his grave, or coffin, or whatever. So, in a friggin nutshell, YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID! Good day.

Way to put a fanboy in his place lol....However I'm not sure naruto could beat Sasuke until he gains Kyubi's full cooperation(which is just around the corner i know). But currently Naruto has no genjutsu counters and most likely can't penetrate Susanoo, though once he has Kyubi's full support to break genjutsu, full beast transformation, and TBB it should be pretty even if not in Narutos favor (though we know little about Sasuke's EMS).
 

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Way to put a fanboy in his place lol....However I'm not sure naruto could beat Sasuke until he gains Kyubi's full cooperation(which is just around the corner i know). But currently Naruto has no genjutsu counters and most likely can't penetrate Susanoo, though once he has Kyubi's full support to break genjutsu, full beast transformation, and TBB it should be pretty even if not in Narutos favor (though we know little about Sasuke's EMS).

I would put them at a tie. I was just saying why this dude seems to think that Naruto so heavily on the fox.
 

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He hasn't had to use them yet? Are you serious? He was getting destroyed by Nagato and Itachi, was getting dominated by the 3rd Raikage, and is now getting his ass handed to him by Tobi and the jinchuuriki and you think he hasn't needed it yet? Lmao. He hasn't used it yet because he can't(he may be able to later, but he can't right now). Let's see what km and sm do shall we:

Both give the user:
1. increased strength
2. increased speed
3. sensing abilities
4. increased durability

They both give the user the same advantages.


Ok, so you must have been EATING weed, SM and KM are NOT the same thing :flaw:

Km is the PURE Kyuubi chakra, the KYUUBI's chakra, the most powerful tailed beast, I do believe it is stronger than SM :no_ignore:
 

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You, sir, seem like a total Naruto fanboy. *smh* U_U


in what way because i'm aware that at the moment he's facing pretty much unbeatable odds? fanboys don't actually use logic, they just troll all day so no
 

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First I want people to understand. Naruto has a freaking demon fox inside of him, if that isn’t the ultimate handicap I don’t know what is, I mean look at the facts, someone like Sasuke has had to work hard as hell to get where he is and that’s just to increase the base powers in his genetics. That’s the powers that he was born with that have been passed down. Someone like naruto doesn’t have those skills, throughout the whole series naruto has relied on the demon fox’s power not his own, countless times he was supposed to die, even in the fight with gaara he was supposed to die but the freaking fox kept him alive, name one time sasuke didn’t just rely on his natural abilities to accomplish his goals. Naruto has been trained by the best only because he is really only one the few to have the amount of Chakra to do those things and the crazy part is it’s not even his power!!!!! There is no way in hell a base naruto with no power given to him by the demon fox could beat sasuke and everyone here knows it, The only reason he will win is because the show is named after him, not because he is the strongest not because he worked his ass off and not because he dreams about being hokage. He is a joke and it’s sad to see so many other deserving shinobi that have worked hard with no crutches not reach his level all because he basically has the strongest freaking thing inside of him, I mean come one its bogus.

And another thing, lee could have beaten gaara if he didnt have the one tail, My point is the only reason naruto is strong is because of the nine tails without it he would be krillin from dragon ball z at best.



try every single time he ever activated the cursemark dumbass
 

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I doubt Sasuke is getting any powerups and Naruto will get. That's why I think Naruto would currently lose. But in the end I bet they are equal or Sasuke gets his emoass kicked.
 

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Naruto would win after all it's naruto shippuden
 

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we can't judge because we haven't seen any EMS abilities and if we have probably a draw because Kishi said that in his interview and the series will continue for a long time because we still have sasuke arc AND naruto at the end naruto and sasuke will team up to finish an end boss
 
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