Do you think Madara's PS would still look the same?

[XY iNVeRSe]

And here I thought that legitimate was a good debater with common sense.

 

[Djokovic]

Sasuke and Obitoi doesn't have Tsukuyomi, it's just a regular Mangekyo Sharingan Genjutsu.

Danzo mentioned Sasukes Tsukuyomi is weaker than Itachi while casting genjutsu on him, not that it really matters since he has blaze release as his second MS ability. so again the point was Madara's MS which KIshi failed to deliver.

Obito wants to proceed with Tsukuyomi project without having the ability. Fascinating theories you have. Please continu to amuse me.

Anyway, Madara used Perfect Susanoo in his EMS and Rinnegan eyes BEFORE, why can't he do it in his Juubi Jin Mode? because he simply can't

You say because he simply cant. Do you have any idea what this word stands for? You speculate on something without any solid evidence and call it simply a fact. This is magnifcient.

I mean blind Madara can use Susano, but Juubi jin with eyes simply cant. Please continu to amuse me.

What facts do you hold about Juubi Jin Susanoo? Is it his Mangekyo Abilities? LOL, that isn't fact to begin with.

Speculation isn't fact.

Did you even read the thread? Susano is based on users chakra and eye development.

I mentioned about Temari-Shikamaru because of the Stats example, not some knowledge example.

The gap between Temari-Shikamaru isn't the same as Kaguya-Madara, look at the size of Kaguya's Kekkei Mora compare to Madara's, that alone shows their gap.

Ofcourse Akatsuki member was on the same level as Shikamaru back then. Also Naruto managed to dodge her space time so Im not impressed, especially when Madara has the same eye.

 

[Djokovic]

And here I thought that legitimate was a good debater with common sense.

I just dont see the relevance in most of his posts. He spouts random facts and speculations which have nothing to do with this thread. We might end up argueing whether Sakura loves Naruto or not.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

I just dont see the relevance in most of his posts. He spouts random facts and speculations which have nothing to do with this thread. We might end up argueing whether Sakura loves Naruto or not.

That guy said that juubi jin madara doesn't have Susanoo.:eww:

 

[Legitimate]

Danzo mentioned Sasukes Tsukuyomi is weaker than Itachi while casting genjutsu on him, not that it really matters since he has blaze release as his second MS ability. so again the point was Madara's MS which KIshi failed to deliver.

Obito wants to proceed with Tsukuyomi project without having the ability. Fascinating theories you have. Please continu to amuse me.

Tsukuyomi project is related to Juubi Eye, not MS eyes. Read the Kabuto Fight, Itachi said Tsukuyomi while Sasuke said Sharingan Genjutsu.

You say because he simply cant. Do you have any idea what this word stands for? You speculate on something without any solid evidence and call it simply a fact. This is magnifcient.

I mean blind Madara can use Susano, but Juubi jin with eyes simply cant. Please continu to amuse me.

Did you even read the thread? Susano is based on users chakra and eye development.

Shukaku's seal pushed Blind Madara to his limits and used Susanoo.

Then, why can't 1 Rinnegan Juubi Jin Madara use Susanoo when Naruto and Sasuke are pushing him to his limits?

There's no claim from the manga that Juubi Jin Susanoo exists.

Ofcourse Akatsuki member was on the same level as Shikamaru back then. Also Naruto managed to dodge her space time so Im not impressed, especially when Madara has the same eye.

Naruto didn't dodge it, they prevented Kaguya to complete the new time space. Again

Naruto + Sasuke = CHibaku Tensei SEAL = Kaguya's Weakness

No Chibaku Tensei Seal = No Weakness

Kaguya could create a new time space with his Giant Kekkei Mora while Madara can't.

I just dont see the relevance in most of his posts. He spouts random facts and speculations which have nothing to do with this thread. We might end up argueing whether Sakura loves Naruto or not.

I just don't see the relevance of your claims without manga scans backing you up.

Isn't Juubi Jin Susanoo a random facts? Is there any claims from the manga that shows, Juubi Jin Susanoo really exists? SCANS PLEASE.

And here I thought that legitimate was a good debater with common sense.

Since when did claim become synonymous to manga facts?

That guy said that juubi jin madara doesn't have Susanoo.:eww:

Juubi Jin Susanoo isn't a fact because claim without scans from the manga isn't a fact.

 

[Djokovic]

Tsukuyomi project is related to Juubi Eye, not MS eyes. Read the Kabuto Fight, Itachi said Tsukuyomi while Sasuke said Sharingan Genjutsu.







Shukaku's seal pushed Blind Madara to his limits and used Susanoo.

Then, why can't 1 Rinnegan Juubi Jin Madara use Susanoo when Naruto and Sasuke are pushing him to his limits?

There's no claim from the manga that Juubi Jin Susanoo exists.



Naruto didn't dodge it, they prevented Kaguya to complete the new time space. Again

Naruto + Sasuke = CHibaku Tensei SEAL = Kaguya's Weakness

No Chibaku Tensei Seal = No Weakness

Kaguya could create a new time space with his Giant Kekkei Mora while Madara can't.




I just don't see the relevance of your claims without manga scans backing you up.

Isn't Juubi Jin Susanoo a random facts? Is there any claims from the manga that shows, Juubi Jin Susanoo really exists? SCANS PLEASE.




Since when did claim become synonymous to manga facts?



Juubi Jin Susanoo isn't a fact because claim without scans from the manga isn't a fact.

I apologize but Im not reading any of your posts again. Im tired of explaining simple facts. Im not sure if your trolling or just missing on the points which are relevant.

Come back when you realise that even blind Madara can use Susano, stating that juubi jin cant is ridiclious. I cant take you serious anymore.

 

[HarrisonX]

Nah I don't think Madara's PS would have changed. He got the Rinnegan before when he was still alive but his Susanoo didn't change.

 

[Djokovic]

Nah I don't think Madara's PS would have changed. He got the Rinnegan before when he was still alive but his Susanoo didn't change.

Fake Rinnegans and also Juubi Madara chakra has greatly improved.... since Susano is formed from users chakra its only logical that...

 

[Legitimate]

I apologize but Im not reading any of your posts again. Im tired of explaining simple facts. Im not sure if your trolling or just missing on the points which are relevant.

Come back when you realise that even blind Madara can use Susano, stating that juubi jin cant is ridiclious. I cant take you serious anymore.

Why would I realize something that doesn't exists?

Shukaku's seal pushed Blind Madara to his limits and used Susanoo.

Then, why can't 1 Rinnegan Juubi Jin Madara use Susanoo when Naruto and Sasuke are pushing him to his limits?

There's no claim from the manga that Juubi Jin Susanoo exists.

Again, A > B > C Logic doesn't exists in Naruto. Comparing Blind Madara to Juubi Jin Madara is A > B > C Logic.

 

[Djokovic]

So after absorbing the three, senjutsu, juubi and gaining 3 Rinnegans people believe his Susano wont improve. Whereas Sasukes Susano greatly improved by gaining not even half what Madara has.

Thank you NB once again for this flawless logic.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I often read how people compare Sasukes PS with Madara's. I find this unfair as we analyse the Susano from the core.
It grows stronger every time users chakra improves or the eyes evolve. Susano grows from skelet to a PS in many forms depending on the users chakra/eyes.

The last time Madara used PS he had fake Rinnegans and a dead body... We clearly saw a huge difference in power when he was revived.

Let me summrize a few things which should have boosted Madara's Susano.

- Gaining true Rinnegan pairs
- Absorbing Senju/sage mode
- Juubi chakra
- Third eye
- Absorbing the tree
- Rikoudo chakra

Do you honestly believe Madara's Susano would still look the same?

His susanoo will get more refine

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Yeah, it's a pity Kishi didn't see his improved PS. What really would've been dope though is if he put out
a PS Juubi. Now THAT would've been EPIC. But noooooooo, Kishi just has to kill of Madara and replace
him with Kaguya. PS Juubi would've been so cool....

I agree! It would have been epic!!

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Real pity.
Kishi failed to deliver Susano, more feats on third eye and even Madara's MS ability is unknown and yet he's currently strongest character in NV.

Epic writing from Kishi never fails to fail.

Agreed, but I believe that his MS Ability may have to do something with time... In the OVA where he fought Hashirama, Madara used his EMS to see well in the "future" or something like that...

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

And sorry I agree with you but accidentally clicked the yes button...

 

[Djokovic]

Agreed, but I believe that his MS Ability may have to do something with time... In the OVA where he fought Hashirama, Madara used his EMS to see well in the "future" or something like that...

Yes thats exactly my theory. How he dropped that rock on Hashirama's head when they were kids. Anime is canon as Kishi has also control over it for the people saying it wasnt shown in the manga.

I believe we still might find out why Madara tapped the ground before he got backstabbed.

 

[Djokovic]

And sorry I agree with you but accidentally clicked the yes button...

If you agree then yes was the right answer. I admit the question should have been constructed better.

 

[Legitimate]

So after absorbing the three, senjutsu, juubi and gaining 3 Rinnegans people believe his Susano wont improve. Whereas Sasukes Susano greatly improved by gaining not even half what Madara has.

Madara's Susanoo is in final, complete and stabilized form while EMS Sasuke isn't stabilized to begin with. That is the reason why Sasuke's Susanoo changed, again EMS Sasuke's Susanoo isn't stabilized to begin with.

Thank you NB once again for this flawless logic.

1.) Madara

EMS Madara's Susanoo = Final with Legs, Complete and Stabilized form Susanoo

2.) Sasuke

EMS Sasuke's Susanoo = Final Susanoo without legs

Kyuubi Chakra EMS Sasuke's Susanoo = Susanoo with Legs or Final Susanoo with Legs

Rinnegan Tomoe Sasuke's Susanoo = Final with Legs, Complete and Stabilized form Susanoo

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Anything beyond Stabilized Susanoo is just an speculation or fanfiction.

Yes thats exactly my theory. How he dropped that rock on Hashirama's head when they were kids. Anime is canon as Kishi has also control over it for the people saying it wasnt shown in the manga.

I believe we still might find out why Madara tapped the ground before he got backstabbed.

Your theory = Is not canon = Fanfiction

Manga is canon.

Anime is not canon.

 

[Ansatsuken]

If you agree then yes was the right answer. I admit the question should have been constructed better.

He using Izanagi although being dead in BZ flashback also have something to do with his EMS ability. Key word 'TIME PREDICTION'.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

If you agree then yes was the right answer. I admit the question should have been constructed better.

Ah ok then!

 

[Djokovic]

Todays chapter proves Madara was holding back al this time. I cant even imagine his Susano right now after so many powerups since last time we seen it.