Do you think Kishi was forced to write Shippuden the way it was written?

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I was thinking about this and how fundamentally different part 1 felt from part 2, and I was thinking of the possibility that Kishimoto was forced to write Part 2 in the terrible manner that it was.

Here's what I think went down; after Naruto's one shot becoming a hit (I think it was) and it becoming a regular series for Shounen Jump it got a lot of popularity. So much so that by the end of the series the editors thought they knew what was best for the series that they made it into a power-up fest. They introduced over-powered villains without much strategy or personality which in turn overpowered Naruto and Sasuke turning them into protagonists without much personality/strategy either.

I think the series went on much longer than Kishimoto intended it to, which is probably why he's so sick of writing it and wants it to be over already; I would feel the same way if I couldn't write my own universe the way I wanted to.

In my opinion he should've written it as a seinen. It would have given him so much opportunity for expansion and strength/power-ups would have only been a small if not insignificant part of the story.
 

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He should've just name the manga Shinobi world! That way he wouldn't have to D ride Naruto the whole time!
 

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Kishi should have been more like Oda. His editors continuously shoved their ideas in his manga
 

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No
I think that from the beginning through pain arc, he had a lot help from his editors(good ones too)
Then after that we discovered just how shit of a writer he truly is
 

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possible, though i just think he's a terrible writer
 

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Kishi has editors that give him ideas. They have HIGH influence for example Sasuke and Sakura were created by them, chunin exams was their idea, Tsunade vs Pain did not happen because of them. They may have influenced him or Kishi just did the mistakes on his own. Some of his editors did leave.
 

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It all became crap after the Pain Arc. The villains would spam a bunch of crap, Naruto wasn't original because he would spam his Shadow Clones. The Pain Arc defined Naruto as a badass and a true hero with his SM, it would have been epic if Pain was the FV and Naruto had his RSM mode there granted Nagato had different abilities. The War Arc was dragged af, Kaguya was really unneeded, and bunch of drama happened in that playing field. It was like Kishi was just repeating his ideas after the Pain Arc and the reason I think he extended the series was to define Sasuke and Madara who Kishi hyped as a Legendary Uchiha. But honestly the idea of the Uchiha always being the villains got boring and Kaguya and the Oosutsuki Clan was introduced way to late for my liking. Shippuden should have ended after Pain Arc because Naruto truly showed Hokage qualities at that time.
 

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No his editors and assistants changed and that affected the story, Kishimoto said himself that a change in editor means the direction of the story changes.
 

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yea fk that, but i felt like there needed to be some big ass ending for naruto as the prophecy child
ending it at pain arc without any buildup would be too sudden for an ending
 

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Forced? I wouldn't use that word spefically but he was pressured I believe by editors and his fandom.
 

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THe editor that said to bring in that child of prophecy bullsh*t should have been fired U_U.
 

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I think it all changed after that earthquake. Maybe something happened in his personal life that made him rush the series. Or health issues or old age . cut the guy some slack. He is human too
 

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possible, though i just think he's a terrible writer

Completely disagree, some of his characters and story are brilliant, 10/10.

Can you please tell me what anime is your Avatar from ?
 

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Completely disagree, some of his characters and story are brilliant, 10/10.

Can you please tell me what anime is your Avatar from ?

(black) hanekawa from the monogatari series
 

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No
I think that from the beginning through pain arc, he had a lot help from his editors(good ones too)
Then after that we discovered just how shit of a writer he truly is

No no I believe that it would've been better if Tsunade defeated Pein instead of Naruto, it would've provided great feats of Tsunade and maybe a lil more than Ground punch, healing, and Yin Seal
 

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He should've just name the manga Shinobi world! That way he wouldn't have to D ride Naruto the whole time!

What's funny is the fact that he d rides the uchiha more than anything and because of them there was a severe lack of villain variety.
 
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