Do you think Kishi originally did intend Tobi to be Madara?

[Kadmos1]

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had posts from late July 2007 about Obito being Tobi. Even though we now he, do you think Kishi originally did intend Tobi to be Madara despite the evidence prior to us finding out Obito was Tobi? That is, do you see the slim chance that he intended Tobi to Madara but all he encountered so many "Tobi is Obito" messages that he decided to a figurative ass-pull with having Edo Madara appear?

I think that if weren't for the Edo Madara plot twist and despite all the "Tobi is Obito" evidence, he had planned on revealing Tobi's identity as Madara.

 

[Simple Math]

tobi being obito planned from the start

 

[Sentinelsgalore]

He intended Tobi to be Obito from the beginning but then he found out everyone was figuring it out easily so he completely switched the main antagonist from Pain to Obito. He then tried to make us believe it was Madara with all the flashbacks and change in personality. The whole thing was a big troll really. Part 1 of the series came from Kishis head and part 2 came from his ass.

 

[Memoria]

I think he planned it to be Obito ever since he released Kakashi gaiden, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Words of wisdom]

the whole kakashi gaiden was foreshadowing what was to come. plus i think the gaiden wasnt mainly to show how kakashi got his sharingan but start a stepping stone so he could refer to it when the identity was reavled

 

[thegame]

Not really sure.. I must say Kishi is the only person I can't figure out. Which is a compliment, lol..

On some points everything seem to be so unplanned and just like sort of coincidences that came out of nowhere. It is probably because a lot of the scenes he has shown along the line have just been meaningless for the rest of the story that way you get the same impression for those that at some point later in time proves to be significant and - some times - well thought through. In fact it works really well, and it creates a completely unpredictable story, which siege to amaze us.

Sadly Kishi has forgotten all his humor during the latest 300 chapters, at least for me I would have liked some more "meaningless" chapters that just shows the "everyday-life" in Konoha among the K11, or others for that cause. Well it's not like he hasn't tried, but compared to part 1..

 

[ANONYMOUS 182]

He intended Tobi to be Obito from the beginning but then he found out everyone was figuring it out easily so he completely switched the main antagonist from Pain to Obito. He then tried to make us believe it was Madara with all the flashbacks and change in personality. The whole thing was a big troll really. Part 1 of the series came from Kishis head and part 2 came from his ass.

Agreed!!!

 

[6PathsofKami]

Nope imo it was planned to be Obito.

 

[ANONYMOUS 182]

Tobi being portrayed as Obito was inevitable!!!! Kishi focused on Obito in 1 or 2 Anime episodes right!!!!! it wouldn't have been necessary if .....Obito hadn't been an important character !!!!!!!!!!

 

[aimop95]

It was most likely planned.

 

[TurrinB]

No I think he intended Tobi to be Obito all along, Kishimoto just can't write romances.

 

[Makaveli The Don]

I think it was planned too

 

[narutotails]

Who knows? Everyone guess can only be confirmed by the author.

Nevertheless, the author does not own the TV channel and also may need publishing agency to contract his/her books. Although I lived in Korea for a while and only visited Japan once, I wouldn't know for sure.

However, there is no way he is pillung this out of hi butt, week by week. He must have had a book with the complete story before publishing it. It probably does not include all the details but I would think that something like that would be a big piece in the story-line and he knew from the beginning. He knew Obito was playing a role and he ensured Kakashi knew that those that left their comrades hanging to complete the mission were trash but he prefered to be more trash by not leaving his comrades behind even at the cost of the mission. He made it clear in the first couple of Naruto episodes. He learned it from Obito as far as I can remember.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

No not at all. He planned it from the beginning imo. I mean i watched all of shippuden that was currently released in a pretty short amount of time. The first time I saw that tobi had a sharingan, i instantly thought he could be obito. Doubt was placed in my mind mainly because of narutobase and all of the plot holes pointed out by people. It ended up that he was obito though, and it seems obvious to me it was planned from the start.