[Discussion] Do you think Dragon was a former marine?

Was Dragon a former Marine? If so, which rank?

  • Admiral

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  • Vice Admiral

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  • He was never a marine

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darthvader5666

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There are many theories suggesting that Dragon was a former marine. Do you think they are true? If so, what rank do you think he was?

Personally, I think the theory's true and he was a vice admiral or admiral. It'd make sense that Garp pressured him to join the marines like he did with Luffy and Ace. It'd also make sense that that is how Dragon became a revolutionary, by witnessing the corruption of the WG first hand. Maybe he even got a direct order from a tenryuubito to do something awful. Or simply witnessed the atrocities the tenryuubito commit. That would also explain his hatred of nobles.

Also, from the way Smoker and Dragon talked to each other at Loguetown, not to mention Smoker recognizing Dragon immediately (Dragon's supposed to be mysterious and all) I think they may have known each other. Which would make sense if Dragon was a marine. Perhaps he was Smoker's superior?
 
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If he was, I'd assume he was a VA who went rogue before he could become an admiral. I think he used to be in the Marine and that's part of what makes him the most wanted man in the world
 

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from some random place said:
This theory has been circulating around the web for quite some time now. One Piece is rich in mythological references not only in characters but also in some parts of its story. In Monkey D. Dragon's case, it appears like he is based from the Chinese Mythology's four great seas. It is worth noting that the North Blue is represented by the color yellow and a monkey, which hints on Admiral Kizaru also known as Borsalino. South Blue, is symbolized by the color blue and a bird, which resembles Former Admiral Aokiji also known as Kuzan. While West Blue, is epitomized by color Red and a dog, which strongly hints on now Fleet Admiral Akainu, a.k.a. Sakazuki. Which leaves us with East Blue, symbolized by color White and a Dragon, and apparently, this is where Dragon comes into the equation, a former admiral named Shiroryuu. Another hint would be Dragon is often noticed by Emporio Ivankov always looking at the East Blue.
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Now that I think about it, I think him having been a vice admiral is far more likely than him having been an admiral. Simply because it's unlikely (not impossible but unlikely) that the revolutionary army's leader was once a marine admiral and no one knows about it. Not to mention he would have been super young for an Admiral.
 
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This is what I think happened.

When Dragon was just a kid, he idolized his dad(Garp) and wanted to become a great Marine like him. He joined the Marines when he became an adult and quickly became a high-ranking Marine because of his Sky Logia. I think he possesses a Sky Logia(which allows him to control the weather) instead of a Wind Logia(which would just let him control wind). With his fruit, he can create thunderstorms and pinpoint where the lightning strikes, and control wind to do stuff like make tornadoes. As a VA, Dragon was the exact opposite of Akainu, which made them dislike each other. When Zephyr resigned from being an Admiral that left a spot open, and the two Marines that caught the eyes of the higher-ups were Dragon and Akainu. They had a fight to see who could be an Admiral, and Dragon won mid-high diff, so Dragon became "Admiral Shiroyuu" This of course pissed of Akainu and made him hate Dragon even more. When Sengoku got promoted to Fleet Admiral and the 3rd Admiral resigned, Akainu and Kizaru took their place. After witnessing the true nature of the Tenryuubito, Dragon was disgusted by the organization he was working for, and then left to form a revolution. Aokiji took Dragon's place as Admiral. Garp was very upset that his son became the Most Wanted Man, and decided to try to push Ace and Luffy into becoming his ideal Marines so that he would never have a repeat of Dragon. Akainu had a personal hatred for Dragon, and that's why he was so obsessed with killing Luffy.
 

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I think it would be silly to give him VA position and not Admiral.

I think he is so dangerous because he was an Admiral, he wouldn't be that dagerouns if he was just VA, at least it's just IMO.
 

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I think it would be silly to give him VA position and not Admiral.

I think he is so dangerous because he was an Admiral, he wouldn't be that dagerouns if he was just VA, at least it's just IMO.
He could have been next in line for the admiral position or something. Or even about to receive it when he left.
 

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I've already made a thread on this: basically the three pre TS admirals all had animals (dog, monkey, pheasant) which symbolized three seas (north, south and west). A dragon symbolized the east sea.

There's a lot more evidence to support the idea of him being an Admiral, but I'm a lazy f*ck so...
 

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I've already made a thread on this: basically the three pre TS admirals all had animals (dog, monkey, pheasant) which symbolized three seas (north, south and west). A dragon symbolized the east sea.

There's a lot more evidence to support the idea of him being an Admiral, but I'm a lazy f*ck so...
I'll do it

In Japanese Mythology, there was a north sea with a yellow monkey, and yellow monkey translated into Japanese is Kizaru. There was a south sea with a blue pheasant, and blue pheasant in Japanese is Aokiji. There was a west sea with a red dog, and red dog translated into Japanese is Akainu. Lastly, there was an east sea(Dragon was born the the East Blue btw) with a white dragon, which translates into Shiroyuu. Now Im sure all of you can see why we would think Dragon is Shiroyuu.
 

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I'll do it

In Japanese Mythology, there was a north sea with a yellow monkey, and yellow monkey translated into Japanese is Kizaru. There was a south sea with a blue pheasant, and blue pheasant in Japanese is Aokiji. There was a west sea with a red dog, and red dog translated into Japanese is Akainu. Lastly, there was an east sea(Dragon was born the the East Blue btw) with a white dragon, which translates into Shiroyuu. Now Im sure all of you can see why we would think Dragon is Shiroyuu.
Ah, I didn't know that. That increases the likelihood of Dragon being an admiral greatly. In fact, I think that basically confirms it; the "original" 3 admirals being "yellow monkey", "red dog", and "blue pheasant", as well as Dragon seemingly having a wind DF (meaning the "white dragon" epithet fits him perfectly) and being from East Blue can't be a coincidence. The WG must have done some epic covering up to hide him being a former admiral though. Either that or he himself did some epic covering up. Maybe he even changed his name.
 
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Ah, I didn't know that. That increases the likelihood of Dragon being an admiral greatly. In fact, I think that basically confirms it; the "original" 3 admirals being "yellow monkey", "red dog", and "blue pheasant", as well as Dragon seemingly having a wind DF (meaning the "white dragon" epithet fits him perfectly) and being from East Blue can't be a coincidence. The WG must have done some epic covering up to hide him being a former admiral though. Either that or he himself did some epic covering up. Maybe he even changed his name.
Dragon doesn't have a Wind Logia, he has a Sky Logia. He was presumably able to control lightning too, as seen when he saved Luffy from being executed by Buggy. I think a better DF for him would be a Sky Logia which would allow him to control wind, clouds, and anything else that is a part of the natural sky. It would also go along with the logia pattern with the other 3 pre TS Admirals.
 
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