Do you think Amaterasu was nerfed?

[Ansatsuken]

Personally, I believe Amaterasu was nerfed for plot. Imagine how many people would have been neg had Amaterasu been unnerfed? Nerferasu already good enough feats, but still..

Literally, Kishi had to make Ninjas immune to Ninjutsu because Amaterasu was so OP. Kaguya was even scared Amaterasu.

Do you think Amaterasu was nerfed for plot?

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How Kaguya scared of Ama? Tell me again or you just using that as a reasoning out of desperation to make your thread have strong basis?

nice job of taking the translation out of context...kaguya was not scared of amaterasu at ALL...she simply thought that going to the ice dimension was a bad idea because sasuke had amaterasu to burn thru it like before.

are you forgetting that kaguya took amaterasu right to the face and absorbed it?????????

Good job in beating me to it

 

[take it easy]

I think that Sasuke was just not good with Ama that gave you impression that Ama was nerfed.

 

[shelke]

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How Kaguya scared of Ama? Tell me again or you just using that as a reasoning out of desperation to make your thread have strong basis?

She was scared of losing chakra by shifting to another dimension, as I believe, she goes through them in a cyclic manner.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

For uchiha fans, when it comes to an uchiha all of their powers were nerfed if they happen to loose....lol so predictable XD

 

[Solo]

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How Kaguya scared of Ama? Tell me again or you just using that as a reasoning out of desperation to make your thread have strong basis?



Good job in beating me to it

I'm pretty sure the Ice World would have frozen Naruto and Sakura, giving Kaguya a chance, but hey... I didn't write the manga.

She was scared of losing chakra by shifting to another dimension, as I believe, she goes through them in a cyclic manner.

Unfocused and focused Amaterasu would make sense, but Madara would be a counter argument to that.(Blind Madara was nothing, but plot) So, do you think like most Jutsu, Amaterasu is strengthen by how much chakra the caster use? If that would be the case, then possibly that would make sense as to why Naruto was not instaneg by Amaterasu.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I'm pretty sure the Ice World would have frozen Naruto and Sakura, giving Kaguya a chance, but hey... I didn't write the manga.

I know. But let stop manipulating something out of context bcus you gain nothing in return.

Its like Sakura fans trying to prove Sakura is on par with Naruto and Sasuke by bring in the scan of Sakura punching Kaguya.

 

[shelke]

Unfocused and focused Amaterasu would make sense, but Madara would be a counter argument to that.(Blind Madara was nothing, but plot) So, do you think like most Jutsu, Amaterasu is strengthen by how much chakra the caster use? If that would be the case, then possibly that would make sense as to why Naruto was not instaneg by Amaterasu.

Sasuke was unable to focus his eye, hence the reason Amaterasu failed. It still ate through the cloak he threw away though.

 

[UnknownJin]

Whats the question here? Ofc its nerfed wtf

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Ameterasu wasn't nerfed, Sasuke's lack of actually abusing enton is the problem.

 

[Jokule67]

I don't think so. People don't understand the difference between focus and unfocused flames. Any residual flame becomes unfocused and burns slowly. Any focused one instantly burns through. This is more evident through these examples:

Focus and unfocused Amaterasu I keep talking about is the real deal. Itachi's works the same way. Look at the frog stomach:

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Only the part where Itachi "focused" the flames is burned through. The rest where the flames flew off to or were left behind are burning "slowly" as I keep repeatedly stating. This seals the deal as to "why" Karin and the Samurai were not burned, as Sasuke never focused the flames on them.

Also, this:

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Apparently, Hachibi lost a "couple" of Tentacles to Amaterasu.

Then we have the pointless plot helping people:

-Raikage dodges behind the flame. Why? Sasuke's line of sight has taken a hit for that time only.
-Naruto tosses it away (albeit it ate through that chakra). Why? Sasuke's eye power is weakened. He can't focus.

Raikage legit dodged Amaterasu with no handicaps on Sasuke.

 

[Jokule67]

What I meant by Amaterasu being nerfed in that fight was his usage of Amaterasu. He had golden opportunities to use it before it got to the part where his neck was broken.

@ Solo, it's also kind of embarrassing how a V1 Shroud Naruto is able to tank Amaterasu which was the same technique that got Bee in his full transformation.

It was not nerfed against bee. Thats the most powerful Amaterasu we ever saw he negged a whole bijuu and made Killer Bee have to escape snd recupperate. That was Sasukes first use it drained him. Nothing was nerfed.

 

[shelke]

Raikage legit dodged Amaterasu with no handicaps on Sasuke.

He dodged behind the flame. It was already formed, but formed short of him. Sasuke had a line of sight handicap, shown when he knocked off a glass earlier.

 

[Jokule67]

He dodged behind the flame. It was already formed, but formed short of him. Sasuke had a line of sight handicap, shown when he knocked off a glass earlier.

Amaterasu shoots out in a split second. Only someone as fast as Raikage could dodge it. When he sidestepped it, it hit the sanurai behind him. Raikage dodged Sasukes line of sight.

 

[shelke]

Amaterasu shoots out in a split second. Only someone as fast as Raikage could dodge it. When he sidestepped it, it hit the sanurai behind him. Raikage dodged Sasukes line of sight.

You DO realize that 1) it doesn't shoot out, meaning that it isn't a projectile, it converges on the target; 2) the flame was already in front of Raikage when he side-stepped it. What did he dodge then?

 

[Jokule67]

You DO realize that 1) it doesn't shoot out, meaning that it isn't a projectile, it converges on the target; 2) the flame was already in front of Raikage when he side-stepped it. What did he dodge then?

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It shot at the Samurai behind him. Raikage dodge Amaterasu. He wasnt hit so he dodged it, its right there. Nothing blocking his sight either. Raikage is faster than the Mangekyou could follow thats why Sasuje surrounded himself with it. Its common knowledge.

This all happens in less than a second by the way.

Heres Garra catching Amaterasu. Because Amaterasu shoots out. If it converged Garra wouldnt be able to catch it at all.

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Even when Sasuke hit Killer Bee he focused on the tentacle coming at him not the entire body. The flames then raged on.

 

[shelke]

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It shot at the Samurai behind him. Raikage dodge Amaterasu. He wasnt hit so he dodged it, its right there. Nothing blocking his sight either. Raikage is faster than the Mangekyou could follow thats why Sasuje surrounded himself with it. Its common knowledge.

This all happens in less than a second by the way.

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^ He dodged behind the flame. So, what are you showing me? Amaterasu moving after it has already appeared? Amaterasu can absolutely be turned into a projectile once it appears. Nothing new.

 

[Jokule67]

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^ He dodged behind the flame. So, what are you showing me? Amaterasu moving after it has already appeared? Amaterasu can absolutely be turned into a projectile once it appears. Nothing new.

Reread my post I added more proof. And how can Raikage dodge something from behind if Ama doesnt shoot. He's not in any danger.

The answer is Amaterasu shoots out really fast. It only seems to converge on the target. Later Kishi slows it down to show whats really happening


And just to close this out here is Anaterasus first use through Itachi. Amaterasu is shooting into the forest.

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[shelke]

Reread my post I added more proof. And how can Raikage dodge something from behind if Ama doesnt shoot. He's not in any danger.

The answer is Amaterasu shoots out really fast. It only seems to converge on the target. Later Kishi slows it down to show whats really happening


And just to close this out here is Anaterasus first use through Itachi. Amaterasu is shooting into the forest.

He already had Enton on his rib cage. What are you talking about? Amaterasu isn't a projectile. Is was never a projectile. It has never been shown as being one.

It is chasing Itachi's eye sight. Once cast, it can be made to chase the gaze.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Reread my post I added more proof. And how can Raikage dodge something from behind if Ama doesnt shoot. He's not in any danger.

The answer is Amaterasu shoots out really fast. It only seems to converge on the target. Later Kishi slows it down to show whats really happening


And just to close this out here is Anaterasus first use through Itachi. Amaterasu is shooting into the forest.

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Itachi never shot it into the forest. It spawns within his line of sight. Because those trees were in his line of the sight, the flames spread to them as well.

 

[kimb]

Amateratsu was too OP of a concept to begin with. "An eternal black flame that can burn through most anything and never dies out"? Amateratsu was begging to be underused or nerfed.

Blame Kishi.