excellent reply.Ok so during their main times.....Nagato absolutely destroys Obito....sadly Kishimoto absolutely destroyed the very character that was Nagato....
Here was Nagato's story: lived in war torn Amegakura with his parents. Then, Konoha shinobi kill his parents thinking they are the enemy. In sadness and rate he awakens the Rinnegan. Then he helps form Akatsuki with Konan and Yahiko in order to bring peace to the world by force. Sadly, Yahiko and several other Akatsuki members are killed....brought back through Pain. Finally against Naruto he sees his errors and repentant by dying to save Konoha.
Because of the completely uncalled fore boosting of Madara....here is his new story.
He was a normal boy who Madara gave his eyes to while he was in a genjutsu. He made Nagato believe that Konoha shinobi killed his family....*At this point Nagato's power and having a unique gift that is one in several billions by chance is shot...Also his grudge against Konoha is now a fabrication as well*. Then Obito is given the credit to recruiting Yahiko and Nagato to develope Akatsuki. He no longer has as great a role of forming the organization. Yahiko died, and he destroyed the village he though crushed his family as well as Yahiko. Then by seeing his wrong doing he sacrificed himself.
Despite all of that he still has a more respectable character....
Obito started a war because the girl he liked (Who liked Kakashi instead) died....AND HE DIDN'T TRY TO FIND OUT WHY....
He also acts rashly and is childish in his selfish actions (a trait he what's with Sasuke). Also, if he really wanted to save Rin he could have used Rinne Tensei for her after Nagato died or even just by telling Nagato to do so as if it were a needed plan for the world peace...
By ur logic all are fodders...if minato and kushina are not parents of naruto then naruto doesnt have kyubi and naruto is not the student of jiraiya then he doesnt learn sage mode so by ur OP naruto is fodder....if Itachi is not the broher of sasuke then sasuke even didnt have sharingan and if kakashi doesnt teach him chidori then in ur OP sasuke is a fodder so please stop underrestimate kakashi.He is a genious ,he can progress himself in other fields of ninjas but obito is a man without brain if kakashi doesnt unlock MS and Madara didnt gave him senju power then obito is a true fodder.No withought Mangekyou Obito still uses Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mokuton, Gedo Mazou and Edo Jins
Kakashi without Sharingan doesn't even have 1000 Jutsus lmao without it he would of died from Sasuke when he shot an arrow into his face, hes weak