Do you have the rights to complaint about Tobi=Obito if you read the manga for free?

[Avani]

Even if we were paying for the manga we would have been paying for the story HE is writing.

Unless we are paying/hiring someone to write own our story we cannot tell them to make it the way we want.

i don't get your question. kishi is a writer and when he writes a series that is being judged as a great one (by people), then he have a responsibility to the fans, and lately naruto hasn't been living up to its standards (being amazing and keeps you interested without confusion), too much plot holes and mistakes and even if there is no plot holes the fact the there is confusion is a mistake. so if we (the fans) don't judge what kishi writes then who will ?? U_U

It is still his work and his story. We may or may not like the outcome. No matter who Tobi would have been many people had their heart set on their own version of story and would have been disapointed. Besides there were enough fanswanting Tobi to be Obito. So keeping fan happy argument is flawed. Many of them are just overjoyed that Obi is at least part Obito and probably fully Obito. He was orignialy a "NO one" you know.

You want a different outcome of events or ending - go write a fanfiction or better yet write your orginal fiction. It is that simple. In the mean while wait for the rest of the story and see how kishi fits other pieces of puzzel.

It is annoying how many people complain about plot hole when the story is still on. It is a hole only if the story ends without tying up the lose ends and filling the gaps in between.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

It is still his work and his story. We may or may not like the outcome. No matter who Tobi would have been many people had their heart set on their own version of story and would have been disapointed. Besides there were enough fanswanting Tobi to be Obito. So keeping fan happy argument is flawed. Many of them are just overjoyed that Obi is at least part Obito and probably fully Obito. He was orignialy a "NO one" you know.

You want a different outcome of events or ending - go write a fanfiction or better yet write your orginal fiction. It is that simple. In the mean while wait for the rest of the story and see how kishi fits other pieces of puzzel.

It is annoying how many people complain about plot hole when the story is still on. It is a hole only if the story ends without tying up the lose ends and filling the gaps in between.

and your point is ??:sy: i never tried to make my own version of the story and no i can't write a story like him and neither can you. the point is that he is a writer and what he writes should interest you specially if your a fan, and am not telling kishi what he should write coz he is the writer so he should have been more creative and more clear (as i expected him to be) but no he failed i must say. and it is my and every fan's right to judge this manga specially when its not getting better U_U. you need to keep your words to your self, naruto is not my favourite manga but its a damn great one and i can understand why people who love this manga so much complain about it lately and they should

 

[SilverSlick]

and your point is ??:sy: i never tried to make my own version of the story and no i can't write a story like him and neither can you. the point is that he is a writer and what he writes should interest you specially if your a fan, and am not telling kishi what he should write coz he is the writer so he should have been more creative and more clear (as i expected him to be) but no he failed i must say. and it is my and every fan's right to judge this manga specially when its not getting better U_U. you need to keep your words to your self, naruto is not my favourite manga but its a damn great one and i can understand why people who love this manga so much complain about it lately and they should

Ey dude, that's a mod you talkin to, you need to be a little more respectful than to tell her to keep her words to herself.

TC: I have every right to complain. Its guaranteed in the first amendment of the United State's Bill of Rights. I don't know what country you're living, but here we have every right to voice our opinion.

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[SuperFlyzzED]

and your point is ??:sy: i never tried to make my own version of the story and no i can't write a story like him and neither can you. the point is that he is a writer and what he writes should interest you specially if your a fan, and am not telling kishi what he should write coz he is the writer so he should have been more creative and more clear (as i expected him to be) but no he failed i must say. and it is my and every fan's right to judge this manga specially when its not getting better U_U. you need to keep your words to your self, naruto is not my favourite manga but its a damn great one and i can understand why people who love this manga so much complain about it lately and they should

Wow, you need to be respectful to your superiors that's a mod. You know they can ban you for your lousy behavior, right? She isn't talking only about you. She is talking about the general base members who complain about the Obito revelation. I agree with Tsuchi, the threads have been lame about people disappointed with the results. I made a thread about the disappointment i felt towards Kishi choosing Obito but i didn't go disrespecting the writer because we need to get more details about the manga-- Tsuchi is right in the end. The manga is far from over there is a lot of plot holes, but the story isn't bad just because of the holes that Kishi puts out in the story. Next time, watch your typing. Don't get so sensitive of what Tsuchi told you. She didn't attack you personally, so don't fret about everything.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Ey dude, that's a mod you talkin to, you need to be a little more respectful than to tell her to keep her words to herself.

TC: I have every right to complain. Its guaranteed in the first amendment of the United State's Bill of Rights. I don't know what country you're living, but here we have every right to voice our opinion.

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and i don't give a shit, mod or not, judging the fans by saying making stupid stuff about the manga, then saying you can't judge kishi's writing :sy: he is a writer and its his job to be judged as a good or bad writer and thats also how the manga was known as a good one so its fair enough to tell when hes slacking of and making predictable and safe plot. and you have the right to state your opinion any where not only the united states within reason otherwise you will be judged as a fool by the same right. so don't say that to me again EVER U_U

 

[KingHashirama]

Nope. Only if you buy the manga or the anime.. you have the right to complain.. Otherwise your just spouting/typing BS.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Wow, you need to be respectful to your superiors that's a mod. You know they can ban you for your lousy behavior, right? She isn't talking only about you. She is talking about the general base members who complain about the Obito revelation. I agree with Tsuchi, the threads have been lame about people disappointed with the results. I made a thread about the disappointment i felt towards Kishi choosing Obito but i didn't go disrespecting the writer because we need to get more details about the manga-- Tsuchi is right in the end. The manga is far from over there is a lot of plot holes, but the story isn't bad just because of the holes that Kishi puts out in the story. Next time, watch your typing. Don't get so sensitive of what Tsuchi told you. She didn't attack you personally, so don't fret about everything.

i don't really care and if she bans me for this, she shouldn't talk like that judging people then saying don't judge U_U. thats just wrong no matter who she meant.

 

[KingHashirama]

i don't really care and if she bans me for this, she shouldn't talk like that judging people then saying don't judge U_U. thats just wrong no matter who she meant.

Her point is. You can't judge something till it is finished.. you have not seen the outcome and yet your complaining. If you do not like they story don't read it. Even people who complain.. like it. But if you like it don't complain.

(Suggestions and Complaining are 2 different things.)

You read the manga for free.. you don't pay to read it. Many people pay for it. They can judge Naruto.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Her point is. You can't judge something till it is finished.. you have not seen the outcome and yet your complaining. If you do not like they story don't read it. Even people who complain.. like it. But if you like it don't complain.

(Suggestions and Complaining are 2 different things.)

You read the manga for free.. you don't pay to read it. Many people pay for it. They can judge Naruto.

your right you can't judge something until its finished, but the manga had unclear stuff but in a stupid way that even if it was cleared it would still be cheesy, not interesting and most of the time predictable (tobi, obito).
free or not the manga was rated as a great one, doesn't that mean it was judged as a good one, a writer is judged as a good writer by the readers of his work free or not. if you read it then you are a reader and its that simple and kishi has a responsibility to his fans. like i said before i liked this manga for a long time now but its not my favourite, but i can understand how some one can love a series so much and get annoyed when they see it not living up to its standards. this manga is free as far as i know and if not then i think they can make exclusive to who buy it and judge it, but almost every one i know read it for free so to answer your question: every one can judge it

 

[KingHashirama]

your right you can't judge something until its finished, but the manga had unclear stuff but in a stupid way that even if it was cleared it would still be cheesy, not interesting and most of the time predictable (tobi, obito).
free or not the manga was rated as a great one, doesn't that mean it was judged as a good one, a writer is judged as a good writer by the readers of his work free or not. if you read it then you are a reader and its that simple and kishi has a responsibility to his fans. like i said before i liked this manga for a long time now but its not my favourite, but i can understand how some one can love a series so much and get annoyed when they see it not living up to its standards.

ALOT of people were against the Obito being Tobi...... proving it was not predictable. And more fans were saying Obito is Tobi then Obito is not tobi.


He took care of his fans... He went with the majority..And its the people who buy the manga and the anime who pay Kishimoto's bills... So Kishimoto really doesn't have to care what we the free readers think.

Someone can love a series and not like it anymore.. its natural. But it doesn't mean that someone should start complaining about stuff while there are many who like it. Obito being Tobi is still too interesting..

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

ALOT of people were against the Obito being Tobi...... proving it was not predictable. And more fans were saying Obito is Tobi then Obito is not tobi.


He took care of his fans... He went with the majority..And its the people who buy the manga and the anime who pay Kishimoto's bills... So Kishimoto really doesn't have to care what we the free readers think.

Someone can love a series and not like it anymore.. its natural. But it doesn't mean that someone should start complaining about stuff while there are many who like it. Obito being Tobi is still too interesting..

and it all breaks down to this my friend, when you think it is interesting and i don't (was expecting something greater that can shock me and not knowing or guesing far from it is what a great secret identity and plot means), its opinions and i respect yours of course

 

[Avani]

and your point is ??:sy: i never tried to make my own version of the story and no i can't write a story like him and neither can you. the point is that he is a writer and what he writes should interest you specially if your a fan, and am not telling kishi what he should write coz he is the writer so he should have been more creative and more clear (as i expected him to be) but no he failed i must say. and it is my and every fan's right to judge this manga specially when its not getting better U_U. you need to keep your words to your self, naruto is not my favourite manga but its a damn great one and i can understand why people who love this manga so much complain about it lately and they should

Bolded the key point there. why would I need to keep my word myself when you are not going to return the favour?

People complaining can do so off course and by the same right other people who are getting tired of it may tell them off. Do not use double standard one for yourself and another for people who do not agree with you.

and i don't give a shit, mod or not, judging the fans by saying making stupid stuff about the manga, then saying you can't judge kishi's writing :sy: he is a writer and its his job to be judged as a good or bad writer and thats also how the manga was known as a good one so its fair enough to tell when hes slacking of and making predictable and safe plot. and you have the right to state your opinion any where not only the united states within reason otherwise you will be judged as a fool by the same right. so don't say that to me again EVER U_U

Judging the fans? People you are arguing with are fans too. Can someone more literate translate that first bolded sentence to me for it is not making much sense to me. In fact most senteces are contradictory, and seem to be moving from one incomplete thought to another faster than Minato's ftg.

i don't really care and if she bans me for this, she shouldn't talk like that judging people then saying don't judge U_U. thats just wrong no matter who she meant.

Ban? For what? So far, you are safe. We are not allowed to ban any person for suffering from reading comprehension issues.

your right you can't judge something until its finished, but the manga had unclear stuff but in a stupid way that even if it was cleared it would still be cheesy, not interesting and most of the time predictable (tobi, obito).
free or not the manga was rated as a great one, doesn't that mean it was judged as a good one, a writer is judged as a good writer by the readers of his work free or not. if you read it then you are a reader and its that simple and kishi has a responsibility to his fans. like i said before i liked this manga for a long time now but its not my favourite, but i can understand how some one can love a series so much and get annoyed when they see it not living up to its standards. this manga is free as far ajus i know and if not then i think they can make exclusive to who buy it and judge it, but almost every one i know read it for free so to answer your question no every one can judge it

Lost interest in reading that run on paragrah and 'free'/ 'judging'.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Bolded the key point there. why would I need to keep my word myself when you are not going to return the favour?

People complaininng can do so of course and by the same right other people who are getting tired of it may tell them off. Do not use double standard one for yourself and another for people who do not agree with you.



Judging the fans? People you are arguing with are fans too. Can someone more literate translate that first bolded sentence to me for it is not making much to me. In fact most senteces are contradictory, and seem to be moving from one incomplete thought to another faster than Minato's ftg.



Ban? For what? So far You are safe. We are not allowed to ban any person suffering for reading comprehension issues.




Lost interes in reading that run on paragrah and 'free'/ 'judging'.

i know its hard to reason with you so you know what screw it, and you actually said faster than minato's ftg .... hmmm U_U, (suffering FOR reading comprehension issues), you know what am not even gona answer this :sy:. ban me i don't care .... i said keep your words to your self coz of your attitude and you answer with insults and minato's ftg lol, am i supposed to be offended. OHH PLEASE .... :sy: BE NICE

 

[Avani]

In a way, yes, and in a way, no. Let me put it like this: If a child in Africa is starving, do they complain about it or are they thankful that they are alive for another day? They usually tend to do the latter, but that doesn't mean they can't be upset about the former, and it certainly doesn't take away from the fact that they are indeed starving. (I could have made a better analogy, yes. But it's late.) The manga we read is free, yes, but that doesn't mean we can't be critical of Kishimoto's story. Some people even say they kept reading the story solely to find out Tobi's identity, and now they feel short-changed. We are entitled to our own opinion. That doesn't necessarily mean we should rant and rally excessively, however. Also, complaining about the story won't harm anyone, per se. It most definitely won't affect Kishimoto in anyway. So I agree that people have the right of free speech, but to a certain extent. Take everything in moderation.

Criticism is not the problem . Crazy repetitive threads are. I am annoyed at both the groups. the ones gloating and the one complaining as I am the one who is supposed to clean this up.For example take this thread itself.

The Op of this thread created same thread yesterday and keeps posting over and over. He is the one going to be banned if he keeps this up.