Do you feel kakashi and Gai have risen above the 5 kages

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I mean I don't think so both are > Mei
But kakashi can't beat gaara
Gai can beat gaara only if he uses 7gateand higher
Tbh a lot of people are gonna say well Gai easily gets passed gaara defense when thts clearly not the case -_-

A kakashi can't beat I dnt even think he can read his movements tbh cuz it took sasuke both eyes to do this tho kakashi has more expirence with sharigan but yeah I think A> kakashi

Tsuande beats kakashi thts like a little bit slower but stronger and undying A I mean anything kakashi throws tsuande tanks easily I mean tech kakashi has a chance against everyone cuz of kuami but still tsunade > kakashi

Back to gaara vs kakashi Kakashi can't beat him he won't be able to reach gaara if he takes flight seriously and gaara sand attacks would kill Kakashi normal body (meaning hes not DURIBLE like kimmi or 3 rd raikage
The lighting attacks well seeing as A didnt do anything to gaara's sand when his body was sardounded in lighting he can still touch him so lighting won't save Kakashi from gaara's grabs and sand burials / imperial funnerals now as for chidori and raikari and yes it pierced part 1 but remember it was hard as hell for sasuke to pierce it it took long as hell for it to pierce not to mention gaara let sasuke come at him like that (stupid move) he didnt even try to defend cuz his ball never had been broken and in the end sasuke had to chidori again just to get his hand out of the sand ball
Gaara's sand is that strong in part 1 stronger when he fought kimmi even stronger when he fought deidara gotten both stronger and faster when he defended and attacked sasuke
And now is faster then ever plus he can fight in air instead of being in Kakashi rakari reach
Kakashi has more smarts and expirence in battle (to me expirence doesn't matter like naruto> Kakashi) in battle but this is both their first war for both of them gaara has way better chakra and stamina then Kakashi

Honestly for me Kakashi wins over gaara 4/10 while gaara wind 6/10 of the time

Cuz tbh if anybody says ****ing kaumi -/- out of technicality Kakashi can kaumi everybody including madara -/- even if tht does happen gaara can slip out of his sand Shield. And if he kaumi sand all gaara has to do is wave his hand and the sand will come bac I mean look at deidara he found his arm eventually as long as the sand is still in naruto universe gaara can still get it bac cuz his chakra is mixed with it
Plus I have hard time beliving Kakashi can kaumi entire sand tsunami js and even if tht was possible it only seems like kakashi warps things to a different place in the world hence why the Akasuki was able to find deidara arm again so what tht being said seeing as the sand is infused chakra so can logically simply wave his hand for the sand to come back
Or just create a new one


Onooki > both of them I really hope I dnt have to explain this

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So basically kakashi does have chance to beat anyone because of kuami
But kakashi out of the 5 kages only beats Mei (didn't have to explain if Mei fans wanna argue I b happy 2)
Gai beats Mei like kakashi and can beat gaara if he goes 7 gates and opens all types of woop ass on gaara lmfao
Neither to Me can't beat tsuande (she heals from everything)
A (too fast and is stronger then both of them) Gai even in gates would prob still h slower then A max speed
Onooki I dnt have to explain

Kakashi beats 1/5
Gai beats 2/5 (if he goes 7 gates on gaara if he doesn't gaara wins)
 

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kakashi is definitely on a kage rank
Yes I believe so too but has he and Gai transcended above the 5 kages
Cuz I c a lot of people out them above them I dnt understand why
They're only above Mei
Gai can beat gaara if he goes 7 gates but if he doesn't then no

Kakashi can't beat gaara well rephrase gaara beats kakashi more then kakashi beats gaara

Tsuande A onooki explained already
 

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Not really, they are generally all around the same level, but in a fight, i would say that A has more chances to beat Kakashi than not, Kakashi would beat the rest though(Onoki would be troublesome though). Gai would have difficulties against Tsunade(i actually see her winning more times than not), against Onoki he would lose definitely, against A it can go either way. Actually he has more chances to win against Gaara and Mei
 

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Not really, the kages are on a whole different level compared to kakashi and gai. You shouldn't underestimate them simply they because they got their asses served to them hot and fresh by madara.
 

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Kakashi is definately Kage level but not as high as A or Oonoki they could destroy him but he has a chance against the others
 

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And if he kaumi sand all gaara has to do is wave his hand and the sand will come bac I mean look at deidara he found his arm eventually as long as the sand is still in naruto universe gaara can still get it bac cuz his chakra is mixed with it
OR... Because Tobi shares the same Mangekyou ninjutsu, he went into the other dimension himself and got Deidara's arm????


Do you feel kakashi and Gai have risen above the 5 kages
No, Gai is fodder who Kishimoto tries to remain relevant for this purpose (fight with Tobi) with an ultra-super-duper Naruto power up (the gates) which ironically doesn't apply to Rock Lee... Imagine that.

As for Kakashi, his only purpose is to serve as an awesome fighter to fall short so Naruto can pick up the pieces and make it as if Naruto surpassed him.

I don't know why in your bouts of Kakashi vs Kage x, you forgot the fact to mention that Kakashi uses genjutsu and has kirigakure no jutsu, two great assets that can possible turn the tide in any of those Kage battles.
 

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I think they are all around the same level. The kage are all great since we cannot tell so much when they fought someone unbeatable and immortal. Kamui gives Kakashi a crazy advantage over everyone now though. Picture him being as good as Obito with it. Then they would never beat him. But normally, I think all have about the same power level now. Not so sure with Gai.
 
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