[Discussion] Do you believe the official story of the Holocaust?

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"Going by your logic" -That's not my logic, faiied strawman right there.

You are not consistent in your argument. You are saying that the holocaust did not happen because history is written by victors. So did the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings not happen because the winners (U.S) told us about them? Either you use your logic to dismiss all the historical events or you don't use it at all.
Why don't you tell me what these so-called independent sources are?

They are mentioned in the first quote:
-World Almanac
-American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee
-Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, Appendix III

And the Korherr report produced by the nazis.

Also for future reference, don't use Wikipedia to make an argument, it's a good place to get up to speed on information you're looking for but it's usually not very accurate and anybody can write whatever they want there.

If the sources are listed I don't see what does that matter.
 

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You are not consistent in your argument. You are saying that the holocaust did not happen because history is written by victors. So did the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings not happen because the winners (U.S) told us about them? Either you use your logic to dismiss all the historical events or you don't use it at all.


They are mentioned in the first quote:
-World Almanac
-American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee
-Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, Appendix III

And the Korherr report produced by the nazis.



If the sources are listed I don't see what does that matter.
I'll say it again, that's not my logic, it's intellectually dishonest of you to act like I'm presenting a binary argument. When did I ever say the holocaust never happened?

The sources listed by wikipedia could be fraudulent too and it's a drag to have to go through all that.
 

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I trace the evidence without allowing stupid labels like anti-semitism or conspiracy theories(term invented by the CIA in the 60's to discredit people) to stop me.

Illuminati has been associated with alot of fictitious stuff. However, going from a purely historical perspective, it was an organization formed in 1776 May 1 by Adam Weishaupt, a crypto-jew who was outwardly a roman-catholic at the behest of Mayer Amschel Bauer in Germany, who changed his last name from Bauer to Rothschild, inspired by a Hexagonal sign drawn at his father's door after he passed away. That sign which would later be a symbol for the Israeli flag two centuries later.
Rot means red and schild means sign in german, the organization was to be based on the teachings of the Talmud.
You wanted evidence, there you have it, don't take my word for it and search the facts for yourself, that is if you have the balls to put down your jewish bias for a minute.

For the record, I'm not a conservative and I have never been on Stormfront.

How is anything of what you said even considered evidence? Do you know what the difference is between conspiracy and evidence? If what you said is in your mind is "evidence" then you are honest to god ignorant af.

You can't claim to not be conservative when your views are mostly conservative. Conservatism isn't a party affiliation like Republican or Democrat, it's a term that categorizes people that have a similar philosophy.

And I'll ask again. Do you Jewish families have control over nations like Russia, France, Germany, England, etc. and had all of their history changed as well?
 
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People who are trying to push aside the Holocaust in their arguments are dumb.

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How is anything of what you said even considered evidence? Do you know what the difference is between conspiracy and evidence? If what you said is in your mind is "evidence" then you are honest to god ignorant af.

You can't claim to not be conservative when your views are mostly conservative. Conservatism isn't a party affiliation like Republican or Democrat, it's a term that categorizes people that have a similar philosophy.

And I'll ask again. Do you Jewish families have control over nations like Russia, France, Germany, England, etc. and had all of their history changed as well?
I get I didn't cite any sources but you can confirm everything I said through your own research. And no, I'm not a conservative, I don't care what you think I am.

To answer your question, I think Jews did have alot of influence in exactly those countries you mentioned, Poland aswell.
 
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I get I didn't cite any sources but you can confirm everything I said through your own research. And no, I'm not a conservative, I don't care what you think I am.

To answer your question, I think Jews did have alot of influence in exactly those countries you mentioned, Poland aswell.

The burden of proof falls on you, not on me. You can't make a claim and then tell me to look it up. It just means you didn't adequately look it up yourself in first place.

I have looked at the numbers and what you're spouting is nothing but conspiracy. Maybe it isn't even antisemitism, but rather ignorance. However, the sources which try to diminish the holocaust are mostly antisemitic and don't actually have evidence.

"You think" is not evidence. And even if that might be true about Jews being in powerful positions, that still doesn't mean they all are in one secret society plotting and communication from different countries for the same goals.
 

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The burden of proof falls on you, not on me. You can't make a claim and then tell me to look it up. It just means you didn't adequately look it up yourself in first place.

I have looked at the numbers and what you're spouting is nothing but conspiracy. Maybe it isn't even antisemitism, but rather ignorance. However, the sources which try to diminish the holocaust are mostly antisemitic and don't actually have evidence.

"You think" is not evidence. And even if that might be true about Jews being in powerful positions, that still doesn't mean they all are in one secret society plotting and communication from different countries for the same goals.
It'd be too much to give links for everything because it's a huge topic. I will still do that however, just not in this thread. I will expose this Holocaust nonsense once and for all.
 
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