Do you believe in God?

[toothpaste]

there is a method. a way to criticize. you dont go around insulting someone's beliefs. like if i go to an atheist and say, 'hey! you believe in darwin's theory? go climb a tree, son of a chimp!'
wouldnt the atheist feel bad about that? now that is also criticism.
try to understand what i am saying. cant you discuss anything without criticism? that would make it worthwhile. we could come to a common understanding.

"hey! you believe in darwin's theory? go climb a tree, son of a chimp!"
that's satire. insulting? no way.

how is that criticism? you haven't criticized anything.

 

[AP2k]

Just because you believe there is a god does not mean you are a christian. The claim was that he was christian.

He believed in the abrahamic god. I think he incorporated elements of Deism with elemants if Calvinism, Christianity, and a few others. But he was also deeply interested in the occult. If you're ever bored read about some of the occult stuff the Nazis did. A lot of it is fascinating, if you're into that stuff.

 

[toothpaste]

You put a great emphasis on science. But have you ever heard of Archimedes. I inferred from the poster that to be proclaimed fact you must answer the scientific method. BUT THAT VERY POINT CANNOT BE PROVED THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD. You can't say that science is the only way to make a proposition of fact because in that statement you are making a proposition of fain in science.

do you propose something better than the scientific method?

 

[Grim]

I'm surprised how popular this abortion debate actualy is :3

 

[TheHybridTheory]

Do I believe in God? Yes.
Am I Christian? Yes.
Do I go by the entire bible? No. I go by the ten commandments and the new testament.
Do I push my religion on other people? No.
Do I expect people to see my religion from my point of view? No.
Do I believe think that you can belief what you want? Hell Yeah.
Honestly it's all what you belief in. If you believe science is the entire answer then eff it, but if you think it's religion then eff it. As long as you aren't trying to shout my beliefs down then I'm fine with anything.

 

[sncreW]

I BELIEVE! xd

 

[GracefulSerenity]

I'm a Buddhist.

 

[NarutoFreakingUzumaki]

the reason people cant answer why is because they dont know how to put it in words. Religion is a faith. People have Faith that God exist. People have faith that God doesnt exsit or that its something else. Either way there is no fact that proves anyone right or wrong about this

 

[Xentinel]

Clouds hang for many reasons and its behaviors can be otherwise explained but i wont argue i have a question for you: If a man never declares himself as a Christian yet believes in some kind of higher power, lives his life as a good man helping others and dies trying to do good for entire humanity . . . then when he discovers that the Christian God is true and asks for forgiveness from him . . . do you think he should be forgiven? or should a Christian murderer who killed many people be forgiven?

Well if you believes in the existence of the omnipotence being but you are still confused on the Real God issue. Then I would suggest you go and find out. I know people will say like "All religion are the same. They taught things that are the same. So how do I know which is the truth." It's actually the statement is wrong as there are difference in these religion. And it's our job to learn it in detail.

About weather he is forgiven or not. I got nothing to say. Im not supposed to judge, the heaven and hell I didnt own them. What rights do I have to say weather he is forgiven or not. Its up for God to decide.

Did your God create disease and famine too?

It's the mankind who created disease. Tell me why the Aids/HIV didnt came into existence centuries ago? God didnt created it but we did it. We did it and we spread it. People having sexual intercourse despite they were not married. God say no adultery. But we against it, and see what happened? God say take care of our hygiene, consume food that hygienic and clean. But what happened? People during the Third Crusade mostly neglected their hygiene. That's how the black plague came about.

But even if the disease is from God. That's not because he wanted to kill the mankind. But he wanted us to be united and do something about it. Do some measures on how this can be prevented? So that we wont take for granted. Example: Rain is form of a blessing. But when too much rain, it caused flooding. This is because God want us to be more prepared by building a drainage system.

 

[Rot]

the reason people cant answer why is because they dont know how to put it in words. Religion is a faith. People have Faith that God exist. People have faith that God doesnt exsit or that its something else. Either way there is no fact that proves anyone right or wrong about this

You got that half wrong, people who do not believe base it off the lack of evidence for a God, not blind faith

People seem to think Atheist believe there is no god, that is wrong. Atheism is the LACK OF BELIEF in any god, we do not assert that there is no god we simply do not believe there is because religious people cannot provide evidence of whatever god they worship and science cannot find any evidence that points to any god in the Universe

I will gladly listen to whatever reasons you believe in a god. The problem is when I criticize those reasons religious people become "offended" or "insulted"

Even though we do not insult you or your religion directly you become absolutely furious when we criticize your reasons for believing because they are not scientific and are based solely on blind fath.

Again, holy books are not evidence of god, they were created, edited and rebooted by Human beings.

Most Christians choose to believe in the New Testament of the Bible, because the Old Testament "God" was very unpleasant compared to Jesus, religious leaders realized the Old Testament "god" was too mean so they made the "New Testament" to make him seem more forgiving and loving.

I used to believe, then I read the Bibles. Thats the best thing I can say to religious people that want to know what made me an Atheist, go read the books.

 

[NarutoFreakingUzumaki]

You got that half wrong, people who do not believe base it off the lack of evidence for a God, not blind faith

People seem to think Atheist believe there is no god, that is wrong. Atheism is the LACK OF BELIEF in any god, we do not assert that there is no god we simply do not believe there is because religious people cannot provide evidence of whatever god they worship and science cannot find any evidence that points to any god in the Universe

I will gladly listen to whatever reasons you believe in a god. The problem is when I criticize those reasons religious people become "offended" or "insulted"

Even though we do not insult you or your religion directly you become absolutely furious when we criticize your reasons for believing because they are not scientific and are based solely on blind fath.

Again, holy books are not evidence of god, they were created, edited and rebooted by Human beings.

Most Christians choose to believe in the New Testament of the Bible, because the Old Testament "God" was very unpleasant compared to Jesus, religious leaders realized the Old Testament "god" was too mean so they made the "New Testament" to make him seem more forgiving and loving.

I used to believe, then I read the Bibles. Thats the best thing I can say to religious people that want to know what made me an Atheist, go read the books.

icompletely agree there are things in the bible that are pretty dark but even so ibelieve in God simply because i choose to believe. Youre right there is no evidence that proves there is or isnt a God it just comes down to faith. and No im not a christian thats closed minded like chik fil a lol

 

[Anorien16]

It's the mankind who created disease. Tell me why the Aids/HIV didnt came into existence centuries ago? God didnt created it but we did it. We did it and we spread it. People having sexual intercourse despite they were not married. God say no adultery. But we against it, and see what happened? God say take care of our hygiene, consume food that hygienic and clean. But what happened? People during the Third Crusade mostly neglected their hygiene. That's how the black plague came about.

But even if the disease is from God. That's not because he wanted to kill the mankind. But he wanted us to be united and do something about it. Do some measures on how this can be prevented? So that we wont take for granted. Example: Rain is form of a blessing. But when too much rain, it caused flooding. This is because God want us to be more prepared by building a drainage system.

I dont wana interrupt but actually HIV and its symptoms were first recorded in history in about 1980 . . . . it is supposed to be evolved from a strain of SIV endemic in chimps . . . it is unlikely that man created it (well people say they saw UFO . . . ) . . . also HIV can spread not only from *** but any form of body fluid contact like blood transfusion, common needle etc.... even children can be born HIV positive. So personally i dont think God had a hand in it. . But i can agree more or less with the others: religion is for unity, but humans dont unite because of the very religious difference. Its sad.

Well if you believes in the existence of the omnipotence being but you are still confused on the Real God issue. Then I would suggest you go and find out. I know people will say like "All religion are the same. They taught things that are the same. So how do I know which is the truth." It's actually the statement is wrong as there are difference in these religion. And it's our job to learn it in detail.

About weather he is forgiven or not. I got nothing to say. Im not supposed to judge, the heaven and hell I didnt own them. What rights do I have to say weather he is forgiven or not. Its up for God to decide.

So how many religious books did you consult and read before u decided? Or How many religious books does anyone consult before condemning others to hell?

All religions may not be same but they are not vastly different either . . . also any amount reading wont decide the truth decisively . . . cos every relegion point at miracles as proof, so are they all right at once or are they all wrong?

Its actually like this:

There is a glass of water . . .
A English man call it 'Water'
A Chinese man call it 'Shui'
A Arabian man call it 'Ma'
and so on......

But basicall its H2O, but different people has different name for it. Same goes with religion.

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

I dont wana interrupt but actually HIV and its symptoms were first recorded in history in about 1980 . . . . it is supposed to be evolved from a strain of SIV endemic in chimps . . . it is unlikely that man created it (well people say they saw UFO . . . ) . . . also HIV can spread not only from *** but any form of body fluid contact like blood transfusion, saliva, common needle etc.... even children can be born HIV positive. So personally i dont think God had a hand in it. . But i can agree more or less with the others: religion is for unity, but humans dont unite because of the very religious difference. Its sad.

lol. it came from chimps. when a lady had a relationship with a chimp. it transferred in humans. HIV doesnt spread from Saliva. (Corrections from a Doctor)

 

[squigles]

there is a method. a way to criticize. you dont go around insulting someone's beliefs. like if i go to an atheist and say, 'hey! you believe in darwin's theory? go climb a tree, son of a chimp!'
wouldnt the atheist feel bad about that? now that is also criticism.
try to understand what i am saying. cant you discuss anything without criticism? that would make it worthwhile. we could come to a common understanding.

I'm an atheist, and I wouldn't feel bad about that. You're just making yourself look bad with a blatantly ignorant understanding of Darwinian evolution.

Also, it's a double standard for you or anyone who's religious to take a position of 'you can't criticize my beliefs' because you are sure as hell going to criticize mine, especially if I'm an atheist.

The whole point is that believing in things without reasonable evidence DESERVES criticism. If I were to claim that I had a pet dragon and it swallowed my children, you wouldn't hesitate to criticize that claim in the absence of evidence. But all of a sudden when we are talking about God and Zombie jesus, walking on water, talking snakes, healing with magical powers, ect, it's somehow off limits because it's someone's religion.

I'm sorry, but if you think that biblical claims are any more valid or truthful than my claim in owning a child eating dragon, then your position is a case from special pleading, and holds zero merit.

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

"hey! you believe in darwin's theory? go climb a tree, son of a chimp!"
that's satire. insulting? no way.

how is that criticism? you haven't criticized anything.

that was sarcasm. not criticism. did you like it?

I'm an atheist, and I wouldn't feel bad about that. You're just making yourself look bad with a blatantly ignorant understanding of Darwinian evolution.

Also, it's a double standard for you or anyone who's religious to take a position of 'you can't criticize my beliefs' because you are sure as hell going to criticize mine, especially if I'm an atheist.

The whole point is that believing in things without reasonable evidence DESERVES criticism. If I were to claim that I had a pet dragon and it swallowed my children, you wouldn't hesitate to criticize that claim in the absence of evidence. But all of a sudden when we are talking about God and Zombie jesus, walking on water, talking snakes, healing with magical powers, ect, it's somehow off limits because it's someone's religion.

I'm sorry, but if you think that biblical claims are any more valid or truthful than my claim in owning a child eating dragon, then your position is a case from special pleading, and holds zero merit.

:sy:
that was an example meant for toothpaste. nothing for you to get so much worked up. and i did not criticize you.


OK. I can give you proof about God. fine? how about that? eh? you must then listen patiently and carefully. AND I will give you references, that you will yourself confirm. does that sound good?

 

[Anorien16]

lol. it came from chimps. when a lady had a relationship with a chimp. it transferred in humans. HIV doesnt spread from Saliva. (Corrections from a Doctor)

Sorry misread it, i wld be things like blood, semen, vaginal secretions, and breast milk etc . . . . BTW EWWWW, who does that with a chimp? Will that count as sexual Harassment of Animal? cos we are not sure if the lucky chimp was consenting.

 

[Ashflura]

i don't think konoha ever had any plans to persecute sasuke simply because he left the village. he started getting into trouble when he committed crimes.

Sasuke had a death penalty sentenced on him, for going against the village, betraying his comrades, and attacking high authorities. The equivalent to someone leaving Islam within Islamic grounds, slandering and badmouthing it after warnings, and insulting religious rulers and God.

you agree that the penalty for apostasy is death.

Death for apostasy is a traditional concept rather than religious. I personally don't agree with the death penalty unless its a highly extreme case, where people are being abused, and only more harm than good will come out of the person living. Like the recent Batman Massacre Trial.

Islam is a peaceful religion, but it does hold its ground. People who want to do what they want have the right to go against the rules somewhere else, but not in a strict religious area. See the difference?

whether or not it only happens on islamic land is irrelevant. it still happens.

If someone wants to live on Islamic territory they abide by islamic laws. If someone wants to live in a multicultural nation they abide by the government's laws, etc.

It's like going to visit a cultural ground as a tourist, abusing their rules and then expecting to get off scotch free. The world has rules, every religion and culture is different, and thus freely "criticising" won't help a situation.

harming someone which hold different views is extreme and immoral.

Harming can come in more ways than one. You're referring to physical abuse, of course that's wrong. Harming another soul is immoral on its own. Nonetheless you can harm people verbally as well. Openly "criticising" needs to be taken into consideration. Words can sometimes be more powerful than actions.

what you are saying is that the values of islam trumps everyone else's.

Islam is not only a religion, but a way of life. So as something that benefits a person's well being and chance in the hereafter - I say yes.

That does not mean I get a big head and shove Islam down people's throats. If people want to take it up, be my guest. If not, it's down to the person's personality and actions with how they want to be treated. Treat me kindly, you receive kindness in return. Act ignorant, and recieve no response.

if you wish to worship some 7th century preacher, go ahead. however no one else is obliged to take it seriously

And no one is obliged to show you respect, if you do not respect other people's beliefs.

 

[Avani]

lol. it came from chimps. when a lady had a relationship with a chimp. it transferred in humans. HIV doesnt spread from Saliva. (Corrections from a Doctor)

If you are going to claim to be doctor ( an expert in other terms) please refrain from silly suggestions like a lady having se with chimp caused this. :sy:

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

Sorry misread it, i wld be things like blood, semen, vaginal secretions, and breast milk etc . . . . BTW EWWWW, who does that with a chimp? Will that count as sexual Harassment of Animal? cos we are not sure if the lucky chimp was consenting.

lol. dunno about the consent . it is a theory that it came into humans from the chimps from any of the above transmission routes that you mentioned above.

 

[Avani]

Sorry misread it, i wld be things like blood, semen, vaginal secretions, and breast milk etc . . . . BTW EWWWW, who does that with a chimp? Will that count as sexual Harassment of Animal? cos we are not sure if the lucky chimp was consenting.

I would think, that's Dark Knight trying to be funny. >_>

lol. dunno about the consent . it is a theory that it came into humans from the chimps from any of the above transmission routes that you mentioned above.

A theory as questionable as the some of the reigious concepts we all have.

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If at all it was probably a gentelman who didn't believe that we should breed in the same " (human) race" and went for a lady chimp. U_U