Do you believe in God?

[TobiGang]

I WORSHIP SATAN I'M A SATANIST ALL HAIL LUCIFER PRAISE THE DEVIL :rag: ALL WORSHIP LUCIFER!! ​

LOL! Is it bad I died laughing?

~TobiGang~

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

I WORSHIP SATAN I'M A SATANIST ALL HAIL LUCIFER PRAISE THE DEVIL :rag: ALL WORSHIP LUCIFER!! ​

Thats v bad.

 

[Prime Rib]

i believe in god, and to people who say that they dont believe in god or the devil, are hyprocrites cause to believe in something is to belive in one or the other

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

I am an atheist.

Got a problem?



I don't believe in a god/gods simply because the thought of all those supernatural things that happene in the bible go against the laws of nature. We have nothing in history that people can split oceans in half and walk through it. Or gather all of the species on the earth to fit in a boat -.- really? I won't even start listing the numerous species on this planet. An to get them to no eat each other? I.g a tiger and a penguin: the tigers would eat the **** out of that penguin. And not to mention that penguins need temperatures below zero? Did he have a freezer for them? The noas arc story is a fairy tale and it's irrational and goes against the laws of nature.

Prayer is proven to be false. And in the bible, god said something around the lines of "pray to me and it shall happen, and something about if you pray to move the mountains it will happen. Well, that doesn't work. WHY PRAY, when everything that's going to happen is a part of "Gods Plan". So, theoretically praying is pointless since everything is destined according to god. And you think you hear god? You think you can feel his presence?
Well, any thought you produce in your brain is your thoughts alone. Anything you even think about is only you thinking.

The bible is sooooo fictional.
It was written by a bunch of early humans who knew NOTHING about the world (at the time they thought it was flat)

Science has proven so much about our world already. Supernatural forces are highly unlikely. And if your god cared about you so much, he wouldn't allow families every god damned day to expirience extreme pain and suffering because one of HIS creations killed one of your family members due to "gods plan"

It's a total sceme.

My point is, seeing is believing.

I believe when you die, it'll be just like how it was before you were born. Gone. Nonexistent. No thought process. You get shut down perminantly with no consciousness.

I have no problem in you being atheist.

the problem arises when you say things about christianity without doing proper research and misquote the holy Books. you say that the Bible is fictional, you say that God has planned everything. God has given man a will to choose. man has been given the power to decide for his own. A man does evil when he gives in to the devil. It is not God's will. If you see then you will believe. I am a medical Doctor. After studying the systems in the human body, the millions of intermingling mechanisms only strengthened my faith. I cant prove to you or anyone that God exists or not.Its upto that person to SEE the existence of God.

I will quote a verse from the Holy Quran,

"And in your creation, and what He (God) scattered (throughout the Earth) of moving creatures, are signs for people who have faith with certainity"

Faith comes from heart. The Heart that "sees" can see God in his creations. and a few of the atheists say that humans are the same as animals. if animals dont have a faith, why do humans have faith? Have you ever talked to an animal? how can you tell that animals dont know about God's existence? prove it.


Now how do we know that there is a God, a Creator, whom we should worship... why should we not consider the theories of natural selection, or the big bang, or the concept of perpetual evolution as plausible evidence for the existence of the world.. it is because, none of these theories can deny the fact, that macro and micro systems are arranged, fixed, proportioned, measured, determined, limited, synchronized, given distinct characteristics and parameters that can not go beyond or exceed. there is something in control, no? can you deny the fact that we exist? if you agree, you will agree that we are subsisting, and being sustained through a unique balance of an environmental phenomenon, that we are not the author of, then someone big is, has to be, must be responsible for all of this... Do you think all this perfection evolved by chance? the same author and creator who has blessed every second of our lives, and put so much perfection and care into every aspect of his creation, will never abandon us. And as the future is bleak, we turn to him and him alone for hope, truth and divine justice.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

i believe in god, and to people who say that they dont believe in god or the devil, are hyprocrites cause to believe in something is to belive in one or the other

Okay, I have no idea how to interpret that, but there's no reason to call non-believers hypocrites. I don't care how strongly you defend your beliefs (trust me, I share 'em). But, respect everyone elses.

 

[Avani]

This is a thread asking why you believe in god, it's people like you ruin these threads. You're picking a fight, right? What are you trying to prove? Please just lock this thread, I can already see it coming.

Everyone be objective and respectful. Also try not to over react if someone questions your reasoning. Unless there is abusive language and irrlevant arguments/trolling there is no need to pronounce demise of the thread.

 

[kral]

Wow! Some great discussions! I'm glad this thread is still open
Plz don't demean other pplz beliefs. The Bible says (not sure of verse ATM) do not pull the splinter out of your brothers eye before pulling the plank from your own.
Another is don't do something that will cause your brother to stumble.
Being hard headed n calling ppl dumb will drive them further away from God.

 

[hutanami]

We, human, constructed by behavior , logic, awareness, experience, reaction, phenomena, inductive education, and so on.

What I want to tell you, that lots of opinion here on this thread, is only to expose their own unfinished dialectical, and some to expose their miss-understood conclusion of their own analysis.
Not many give to opinion in good based argument. ( sentence, words, etc are tools to communicate to other. I mean good argument is not same to be a No Action Talk Only).

It will be a good topic if this thread responded by good based argument. No need to be serious like military, or scientist, just need to logically, fun and familiar.

So here it is

Some of us, behave to DENY his confession about something, in order to EMPHASIZE something that doesn't fit to those thing he behave to deny.
(Example : He believe (80%) BLACK HOLE science to rule nature creation. Meanwhile, daily, at whatever how, He belief in one religion, understand the religion 60%. So to EMPHASIZE his ability to talk about BLACK HOLE then he DENY his religious)

Some of us, take opposite option to DENY something that he couldn't understand logically 100%. It is a behavior of awareness, behavior of perfectionist, etc.
(Example : Some of us say believe in Satan and all things about Satan in order to tell that we don't have ability to understand God until satisfaction level of understanding. Indeed, as deep in that sentence is, we actually believe in God. It is a behavior of demonstration to incapability -- incapability to enough satisfaction --)

My Opinion to the subject is:

There is a possibility that those gods of those religion were created by human as tools to build an ordered society.

There is a possibility that those after life, those definition of after life, that those imagination of after life, must be changed. Maybe we interpreted wrongly.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

No I don't, I don't have any particular profound reason to believe or not to. It's simply what is natural to me.

Well this came out very stark and boring lol, sometimes I do wish I had more interesting things to say!

 

[8thHokage]

u started out nice but ended it badly, i respect ur opinion but the whole universe was made with such complexity and different altitudes and longitudes and really really vast galaxies and they are put on order with a wisdom behind it all and many more and u r saying its natural?
everything was put in place was just an accident? if the sun moves down an inch we will all be burned alive...there is a Creator behind all of this.

the argument of a finely tuned universe, that is, a universe that was made for us, is really quiet ridiculous and arrogant.. space has five major elements, the most prominent elements in it's composition.. they are carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and helium.. those 5 elements are also our, human beings major elements.. so we are made of the most common stuff in the universe, and the universe is incomprehensibly huge.. i mean fuking gigantic, and we probably havent even searched 1% of it.. knowing this, id say life some where else in the universe is an inevitable consequence of complex chemistry, and thinking we are alone in the universe is incredibly ego-centric.. i dont even kno wat a un-finely tuned universe would look like..

 

[karol the don]

nah i do not belive in god why should i belive in a thang that i never seen before.

 

[Itachi Minato]

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

kill them then god sends them to hell

a better translation. O prophet strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites.And be firm against them.their abode is Hell and an evil destination it is.No mention of war

 

[REX Lex]

a better translation. O prophet strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites.And be firm against them.their abode is Hell and an evil destination it is.No mention of war

man Who translated kakashi's version George Bush xd

 

[Itachi Minato]

man Who translated kakashi's version George Bush xd

lol i have no problem with what he said but it seems to me and correct me if im wrong that u just looked that up on the internet.unless u have the quran bible or whatever in front of u to check then really i dont think u should quote from the holy books.Im very interested in religion and i would be happy if someone could prove to me there is no god but they cant and i always question my religion so i know im not following the wrong thing

 

[Itachi Minato]

man Who translated kakashi's version George Bush xd

lol i have no problem with what he said but it seems to me and correct me if im wrong that u just looked that up on the internet.unless u have the quran bible or whatever in front of u to check then really i dont think u should quote from the holy books.

 

[Jack Spicer]

man Who translated kakashi's version George Bush xd

:rofl:

Yes! Yes! Yes!

 

[Stewie Griffin]

is according to religion the luckiest human a baby without sin who dies soon after its born to go straight to heaven?

 

[Pesh]

People need to understand science is involved in a very high pitched battle with creationists over who decides the origins of life and humanity.
The reality of this is that because of the battle, scientists are unable to say "we don't know or understand this" and instead they always come up with a new answer until it's proved wrong because otherwise there'd be room for creationists to throw their beliefs in the midst and that's pretty much how we move onwards from the scientific standpoint.

You misunderstood me; it's okay Science to be based on theories, but in reality those theories are based only on OUR rationality and perception. While no one can be sure whether we are actually thinking correctly or perceiving the reality as it is, or be it, in a way that allows us to reach correct conclusions.

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

i have read it do you have any non- Muslim friends?

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

this said that every one not Muslim want bad things to you. and thats the opposite of the mains faiths

infact your book says you need to make war on others

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

Where are you getting these mistranslations? whatever hatist website you are getting these quotes from, isnt authentic. dont mistranslate. it hurts us if our Book is being made into something that it isnt.

some of these ayats are parts of bigger sentences, cut out to make a new meaning. e-g, the commands to not make friends with the Jews was given when Madina (a holy city) was attacked by the non-believers, and the Jews of Madina withdrew from their deal to protect the city from an outside attack with the Muslims . after this betrayal, that ayat was revealed. misquotes will take you nowhere. i can prove the rest of the ayats that you have quoted as fabrications as well. but that would be a waste of time because it wont change your beliefs. Islam is a religion of peace. And about the terrorist, you really dont know. Osama bin Laden? he was a puppet, someone who gave a good excuse for G Bush to win the presidential elections once again. your media is being controlled and manipilated to show you what needs to be shown you in order to brainwash you and mould you into tools for the illuminati. If you want to know what really is happening in the world, VM me. I will tell you personally because this is not the right place for that discussion.

a better translation. O prophet strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites.And be firm against them.their abode is Hell and an evil destination it is.No mention of war

This^

It proves my point. Some anti-Muslim websites that want to create misconceptions in your mind and make you hate Muslims misquote the Quran.

 

[Darth Atlas]

I have no problem in you being atheist.

the problem arises when you say things about christianity without doing proper research and misquote the holy Books. you say that the Bible is fictional, you say that God has planned everything. God has given man a will to choose. man has been given the power to decide for his own. A man does evil when he gives in to the devil. It is not God's will. If you see then you will believe. I am a medical Doctor. After studying the systems in the human body, the millions of intermingling mechanisms only strengthened my faith. I cant prove to you or anyone that God exists or not.Its upto that person to SEE the existence of God.

I will quote a verse from the Holy Quran,

"And in your creation, and what He (God) scattered (throughout the Earth) of moving creatures, are signs for people who have faith with certainity"

Faith comes from heart. The Heart that "sees" can see God in his creations. and a few of the atheists say that humans are the same as animals. if animals dont have a faith, why do humans have faith? Have you ever talked to an animal? how can you tell that animals dont know about God's existence? prove it.


Now how do we know that there is a God, a Creator, whom we should worship... why should we not consider the theories of natural selection, or the big bang, or the concept of perpetual evolution as plausible evidence for the existence of the world.. it is because, none of these theories can deny the fact, that macro and micro systems are arranged, fixed, proportioned, measured, determined, limited, synchronized, given distinct characteristics and parameters that can not go beyond or exceed. there is something in control, no? can you deny the fact that we exist? if you agree, you will agree that we are subsisting, and being sustained through a unique balance of an environmental phenomenon, that we are not the author of, then someone big is, has to be, must be responsible for all of this... Do you think all this perfection evolved by chance? the same author and creator who has blessed every second of our lives, and put so much perfection and care into every aspect of his creation, will never abandon us. And as the future is bleak, we turn to him and him alone for hope, truth and divine justice.

<3 very very amazing explanation better then any other on this thread