Do you believe in God?

[ShishaMastah420]

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"-Epicurus( 341 BCE – 270 BCE )

Long live; The Educated and Intelligent...

 

[Chakra Wizard]

@Darth Atlas

While I agree with you, I also think it almost seems like we're just not ready to have peace and understanding.

Perhaps the late great George Carlin said it the best:

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He really was one of the funniest and smartest men to ever live, and this is a Christian talking about an atheist herexd It pains me to know that he's burning in my religion's Hell right nowU_U

 

[SplittingAtoms]

I'm an Agnostic, because I find it the most logical explanation; no one can be sure whether there's a supernatural power, God, etc. To be honest, all the atheists base are such because of the Science, but if you give it a thought, to some point the Science is as much a believe as religion is. All facts and theories are based on our rationality and our perception, therefore you can't be sure whether it really is universal or even whether it's true.
On the other hand, religions base their ideology on pure faith without even trying to give a proper proof.
At the end, neither can be really a trusted to prove God's existence. So you simply can't be sure whether the Supreme Being or Power exists or not.

People need to understand science is involved in a very high pitched battle with creationists over who decides the origins of life and humanity.
The reality of this is that because of the battle, scientists are unable to say "we don't know or understand this" and instead they always come up with a new answer until it's proved wrong because otherwise there'd be room for creationists to throw their beliefs in the midst and that's pretty much how we move onwards from the scientific standpoint.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

Bleep Bloop. Doubt any of you will read this but..

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that was a great read

+rep

 

[Chakra Wizard]

I just gotta ask this question.

Aside from trying to find others who share your beliefs or finding out who doesn't so you can avoid them, what other legitimate reason for starting these Religion threads is there (on this particular forum site, that is)? They almost always end in flame wars, though this one seems to be doing fine so far

Interpret or answer that question how you want, but I'm just curious.

 

[home]

im an agnostic, there is no solid proof of god exsisting and many things in the bible and other religious have been proofed wrong by science taking away from its validity and making a religion that would have been hard to believe in almost impossible to believe in for me.

 

[North Kai]

a perfect time for a friend on fb to share this:

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[RAMENATOR]

Surely you can't expect people to not cut their beards, even many of the beautiful women would look alike to Gandalf and every man would be sweating like it's sauna 24/7. I'm sure we can also agree we shouldn't stone our children for getting drunk nor punish people who work during sabbath.

It's widely agreed by Christians that the old testaments ridiculous rules are written by men of the past describing what was going on at the time and should be taken with a grain of salt.

The Christians of today should use common sense when reading these old documents and trying to live in accordance to their religion.

I'd appreciate if you don't direct other people on how to view their own beliefs and if you would speak for yourself and not a group of people you claim to not belong to.

Though I see the point you're trying to make, the way you have presented that bit of information makes me think you are ignorant of Christianity. If you wanted to accurately distinguish between the old testament and the new testament, you would have to explain Jesus's purpose. Since you do not align with the Christian point of view, I find it absurd that you would try to explain it.

I'm sure you do know a lot about Christianity and have chosen to dismiss it for your own reasons, and I respect that, but you don't seem to know enough about it (in my opinion) to be able to correctly explain it to others.

This goes with any belief system though: if you personally don't believe it, then don't try and explain it (Whether it's Agnosticism, Buddhism, Atheism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islamic, etc...).

I'm not trying to make you look bad, but I'm using you as an example as to why these threads go bad: people try and twist the views of others or put words in their mouth; or they try to tell other people what they believe. I think few, if any of us, are considered an "authority" among our particular life views except in the way we see it.

 

['Kurapika]

I just gotta ask this question.

Aside from trying to find others who share your beliefs or finding out who doesn't so you can avoid them, what other legitimate reason for starting these Religion threads is there (on this particular forum site, that is)? They almost always end in flame wars, though this one seems to be doing fine so far

Interpret or answer that question how you want, but I'm just curious.

No matter what anyone tells you, the reason is always boredom.

 

[~Yubel~]

God exist why? Because nothing has always existed, SIMPLE AS THAT.

 

[Uchiha7Sasuke]

Yes i belive , I'm a muslim but why make this thread because this thread will never come to an end..everyone has their own opinion someone belive because it was teached that way in his family and someone doesnt belive because his family wasnt religious, everyone will go the way he was teached in his family the way their parents tell them, this thread has no end since everyone has his own opinion and will never accept the oposite and and attempt to make the other to believe the same thing that he believes..and the disscusion will never come to its end until a GM comes and close it...or u just could search threads, there are many of this kind.

same here i totally agree with you and this thread should be closed it well never ends

 

[~Yubel~]

It shouldn´t be closed, it´s in the general discussion where serious topics are meant to be discussed, if you don´t want to take part in it then by all means, shut up.
You are spamming by being off topic in your post.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

God exist why? Because nothing has always existed, SIMPLE AS THAT.

o.o but if God exist then, He must have a creator since; "nothing has always existed, SIMPLE AS THAT."

Then his creator requires a creator then that creator requires a creator....

 

[SplittingAtoms]

@Sveti

a) I never claimed to not be a Christian, I do actually have a background in the religion.
b) It's ridiculous to assume that I alone would represent any religious group, however I may reflect on the various views of a belief-system and that's not putting words into anybody's mouth, essentially that's my word based on my learned experiences.
c) I'm not trying to explain the whole of Christianity, merely making a point that what was in the past might not be appropriate in today's world, many Christians I've met agree with this and that's why I felt comfortable saying what I said.

I'm not telling anybody to take my word for anything, everyone needs to make their own research and conclusion.
Discussion alike this and hearing other people's views that may educate and broaden our own views can be important, to some, that's why this topic should stay open.

edit: Imo if somebody feels like they might be offended by topics like this, they shouldn't enter in the first place.

 

[RAMENATOR]

@Sveti

a) I never claimed to not be a Christian, I do actually have a background in the religion.
b) It's ridiculous to assume that I alone would represent any religious group, however I may reflect on the various views of a belief-system and that's not putting words into anybody's mouth, essentially that's my word based on my learned experiences.
c) I'm not trying to explain the whole of Christianity, merely making a point that what was in the past might not be appropriate in today's world, many Christians I've met agree with this and that's why I felt comfortable saying what I said.

I'm not telling anybody to take my word for anything, everyone needs to make their own research and conclusion.
Discussion alike this and hearing other people's views that may educate and broaden our own views can be important, to some, that's why this topic should stay open.

The manner in which you presented that particular point is what gave me reason to doubt your alignment with that specific belief system.

The rules of the old testament were not silly rules made by man, they served a purpose since everything was physically represented at that point in time. With the life of Jesus, those physical laws became spiritual, and that's why the physical laws are no longer necessary.

Yes, everyone can make their own choices, do their own research, and follow their own path; but I simply wish for you to be more careful when giving generalized assertions.

I have no issue with this particular thread being open in its current state, but I personally feel that views can only be broadened when all sides are accurately presented, explained, and defended. Asking other people questions in regards to their views only helps you further understand their view, but dismissing or trying to disprove their view(s) will only degrade the conversation and may turn it into a fight.

We don't have to accept every viewpoint as correct, but it's best to keep an open mind. No one should be forcing their beliefs on each other and no one should be representing something they do not have a great understanding of. Some beliefs are open to multiple interpretations and in such a case, each interpretation should be given a chance. Some parts of Christianity are open to interpretation, but the difference between the old testament and the new is not one of those.

I'm not trying to lecture to anyone or speak down on anyone. I simply wish for this to be an informed discussion if it is to continue. Mutual respect is all I ask of anyone. o.o

 

[SplittingAtoms]

Granted I should've presented it better, and you did that for me so I thank you.~

Then I want to ask, do Darwinists still exist? Many are making God defying claims in the name of science, but what exactly do you guys mean by that?

 

['Toxic]

Granted I should've presented it better, and you did that for me so I thank you.~

Then I want to ask, do Darwinists still exist? Many are making God defying claims in the name of science, but what exactly do you guys mean by that?

There's just no solid proof that he existed. No pictures of him or anything but a mankind written book. If people can bring down a really solid piece of evidence then I might lean to being more religious but people only throw the whole "He's real b/c he's GOD" or "he's real if you have faith"
Lost my faith long ago. Neither side can truly prove anything, religious and non religious can show solid proof about anything, there all just either beliefs or theories.​

 

[Rexoniel]

I believe in God and feel him in my heart. Proof of his existence is all around us but some people are just too blind to see it. A non believer thinking life created itself without the hand of God is like a man thinking he popped himself into world without the aid of parents. Who are we to question our creator? If manga characters were sentient beings, could they see their fathers (manga artists) in their 3D form while they themselves are 2D? The authors are aware of and control every action that takes place in their stories indeed the very universe of their characters. Though the story tellers themselves may be good people, is there ever a story where there is no conflict? Imagine how funny it would be to see manga characters deny being drawn by a human because they can not see their artists and proclaim that their manga series came into existence by itself. "At first there was nothing ( a blank piece of a paper) then an ink dot exploded and everything was suddenly drawn".

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[Dodai3]

I WORSHIP SATAN I'M A SATANIST ALL HAIL LUCIFER PRAISE THE DEVIL :rag: ALL WORSHIP LUCIFER!! ​

 

[shanee]

i would die for my god, jesus christ. im living my life for him.