Do you believe in God?

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  • I Believe In God

    Votes: 375 67.3%
  • I Am An Agnostic

    Votes: 55 9.9%
  • I Am An Atheist

    Votes: 127 22.8%

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orochimaru

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Simple question. To Christians, do Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc. go to Heaven if they don't believe in Jesus? Same question to Muslims and Jews. What if Christians don't believe Allah or Yahweh? They will go to Hell, right?
What kind of benevolent god would offer salvation to only a fraction of his children, and send the rest to eternal damnation?
@Naruto10, stop saying you understand "God". There is no way any human could understand "God".

Muslims do believe in Jesus,peace be upon him, as a messenger of Allah. Jesus was a prophet and God gave his prophets miracles for people to believe them,yet people Jesus as a God and some say he is the son of God!!! and don not even get me started on Yahweh and Judaism...lets just leave it at that.
Worshipping Jesus and asking him for help and stuff,this is the invention of man himself, God would not a human being then ask humanity to worship him instead of the creator!
And other religions they worship cows and fire and even the sun, its really LAME!
 

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the kuran sorry if i misspelled that was written long ago also so is it then not reliable ? all major religions have the same god different prophets jews christians muslims same god different prophets. and imo they are out dated the problem i have with religious books is thta they choose certain patrs to go by and neglect the ones that they deem wrong ans say things like that was for that time period not now like the killing of bad kids and other stuff like that but it is ok to hate people that are not your religion and homosexuals it is all bs the worls would be better without all religion if people could be kind and not greedy towards their fellow man and everyone treated as euqal dont you think the world wold be a better place i mena in the bible hell in the US constitution it says all mean are created euqal unless you are not white or a woman the bible says the same shit only men matter in the bible the only woman that is portayed in the bible as anything but a ***** is the virgin mary thats it the rest are referred to as whores or worse it is biased becase it is written by man if god is so powerful why not write the book himself does he not have hands

do u think the current Bible is the same one sent to Jesus? hell nooooooo...it has been edited by men to fit their needs and you said it cuz u felt its not right...after the bible came the Qura'an which the final book and God promised to protect it from distortion ... Now, we see many editions of the Bible and they are contradictory...the Qura'an has only one Edition,the same and will remain the same...cuz everything in it was in the Torah and in the Bible but people did not respect the words of God and changed what they do not like.
 

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Do you believe in god? Why?
Are you an agnostic? Why?
Are you an atheist? Why?

Edit: Everyone fails to explain WHY?!

My mom is a christian i have gone to bible camp and to a few lives shows in Washington recorded for the christian broadcast network TBN.I also
study philosophy,psychology,religion and biological engineering.
I just wanted to include that tad bit of info so you know i am well versed
in quite a few fields.To you people,i am an Athiest(I guess,but i rather not be titled athiest i have no beef with religious people individually i tend to think of myself separate from what everyone else calls "god" and religion)I am Vincent nothing more nothing less,unless i choose to be.I do not think i have no meaning without worship to a higher being ialone make my destiny.)I do not believe in god.
With every passing year comes more advancements made by man almost each and everyone would mostly be impossible,if not for scientists and enlightened thinkers.Everything in the world requires empirical evidence to be studied and analyzed before you can start deducing exactly what is is and what you can benefit from it.Religion requires the opposite.If religion was not removed from the state the world would be a much bleaker place.
If religion was not around it would not hinder the advancement of the human race.Some will argue about the values religion holds.Morality,virtue and kindness are not religion that is fundamental behaviors that make you accepted upon society in a positive outlet you do not need religion to be a good person.Religion can help but virtue and good ethical behavior can be taught anywhere from anyone and was not manufactured by religion.Besides the bible throughout history has also been used as a catalyst for hate.I want you all whoever reads this post to seriously read the bible.There are many things in there that are just unacceptable in society and rightly so.If religion had its way it would strip the rights from most people and kill another good majority.Whether you like to believe it or not those behaviors were brought unto man from the views feelings of other men.Religion breeds nothing but irrational thinking and biased opinions towards others.Others will also point out "my priest is not like that" And to that i say good for him.((But if you ever watched charlie rose he discussed the Muslim religion.He debated how it was a religion of hate.If a majority have hate for a group of people(for whatever reason/gay/athiest/believe in another religion) which a majority of religious people do then how they act and how they are perceived is what makes up that religion.)I trailed off but i needed to explain that behaviors are taught by man it was not made from religion.
Religion in itself has something to do with an afterlife or a higher being at its core.And in a world where most things have been proved and explained the crutch humans used to find purpose should be ditched.The ever expanding cosmos is so vast and mysterious that whatever lies beyond there is sure to be more beautiful more deadly and something totally beyond out wildest dreams.What i want to say is do no limit your perception of the universe to the views of people from 2000 years ago(or whatever religion you believe) the world has evolved since then.
 
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it is silly.. its a made up fairy tail, and its a childish belief. i respect people, but when talking about religious beliefs im not gonna beat around the bush and walk on egg shells, im gonna be honest.. it makes no sense.. the questions of where we came from and why are we here cant be answered, it cant be explained, so thats where it should be stopped. why add on something like god too make the questions more difficult, you cant prove or disprove god, so it makes sense too leave it out of the equation.. a religious god, like a christian god, or muslim god certainly do not exist , but a strange supernatural force or being that created everything, maybe, but untill we find some evidence, its pretty irrelevant, but still a possibility i suppose

u started out nice but ended it badly, i respect ur opinion but the whole universe was made with such complexity and different altitudes and longitudes and really really vast galaxies and they are put on order with a wisdom behind it all and many more and u r saying its natural?
everything was put in place was just an accident? if the sun moves down an inch we will all be burned alive...there is a Creator behind all of this.
 

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that's just ridiculous

thats like saying if there was a god there would be no theists

or

if Harry Potter wasn't real there would be no one who doesn't believe that its real

now if you said: if there was no concept of god than there would be no atheists ... that would be correct

Lol :D nah sorry man it's just something I found on the internet just before looking at this thread (And I kinda joke around too much sorry >.<).
I should behave better, since this is a serious thread :uruhara:
 

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I believe in God, but I don't believe in any existing religion, bible or holy scripture.
I don't trust organized religion and it's institutions.
I do, however, believe that not everything is random, that there is some higher purpose for our existence which we yet don't comprehend because we're not supposed to.
I believe in God, not as an almighty creator of everything, but as nature, higher level of existence and meaning, a sort of catalyst for the spiritual enlightenment if you will.
 

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i have read it do you have any non- Muslim friends?

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

this said that every one not Muslim want bad things to you. and thats the opposite of the mains faiths

infact your book says you need to make war on others

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

lol, you know what is ur doing ? you are OVERGENERALIZING !
these verses were said to the prophets during their period according to what was going on, cuz disbelievers then were waging wars against prophets ,they were Tyrants and words won't do any good...it does not talk about our time...im not gonna write any verse in eng cuz i dont know how to but in explanation most verses encourages Muslims to befriend others no matter what their religion is.
Our Prophet Mohammad , peace be upon him, had a jew neighbour...and the prophet always said Peace to him whenever he passes by, till one day the man dies and the prophet asked God to forgive him...the Qur'an in most is telling the stories of the beginning of mankind and some of it ,as u wrote, were words directed to the prophets not to us...read the whole Surah then come talk...but do NOT insult the book of God by saying it calls out to erase disbelievers...who are we to judge people when the creator can judge them...plus most verses that are sent to Muslims as guidance all of them saying that you must treat people as the treat you...and do not wage war aginst disbelievers unless the start first...so do not twist words for what they meant.
 
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how could you know that?
there are thousands of religions why is yours correct?

my religion is correct because our holy book is the truth and it is the most reliable out off all the religions.
 
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This. I think it is kinda silly to believe that some vengeful ******* punishes you for loving same gender or working on sundays :rolleyes:
Of course there may be some sort of higher being (unlikely in my opinion) but I highly doubt bible was written by people who were connected to god. If god exists he propably wouldn't behave like barbarian and send fireballs, floods, locusts or kill the innocent egyptian babies.
 
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i have read it do you have any non- Muslim friends?

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

this said that every one not Muslim want bad things to you. and thats the opposite of the mains faiths

infact your book says you need to make war on others

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"O you who have believed, do not take as intimates those other than yourselves, for they will not spare you [any] ruin. They wish you would have hardship. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater. We have certainly made clear to you the signs, if you will use reason."
A better translation. :)
 

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my religion is correct because our holy book is the truth

your precious law from the god:

Sexism
Women’s placement and inferiority to men is made quite clear in the Bible. The discrimination even starts as early as the second account of creation where it explains woman was only created as a companion for man and only because Adam could not find a suitable partner in the other animals. Throughout the Bible they are constantly reminded that they are inferior to and came from man. In Genesis part of women’s punishment is that her “desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” Adam was only punished because he listened to his wife.

Slavery
The Bible never condemns slavery in ether the Old or New Testaments. It does however show its full support for slavery by giving specific rules on the proper way of beating and owning a slave along with the proper way for a slave to behave. There are even points in the Bible where it orders the capturing and enslavement of new slaves.

Rape
God and the Bible treat women as property of men and occasionally punishes men by having their wives taken away and raped just as a man today may have his car repossessed and auctioned off. God punishes David by giving his wives to his neighbor to be raped in broad daylight. Zechariah claims there will come a day when God will have all the women of Jerusalem raped. And Isaia shares a prophecy telling us that God is going to make the Babylonian men suffer by having their wives raped.

Polygamy
Polygamy is the practice or condition of having more than one spouse at one time. Bigamy is the act of marrying while one has a wife or husband still living, from whom no valid divorce has been effected. Both Polygamy and Bigamy are frowned upon in most cultures, especially in the Christian community, but the Bible teaches us it’s okay and does not speak against it.

Murder
Murder seems to be the punishment the Bible sees fit for pretty much anything that the Christian god finds inappropriate. The Bible also teaches that murdering these people will not make us murderers as the “blood will be on their own heads” and in some cases even tells us how to murder, such as stoning. We are told to kill anyone who does not do what God demands of us. We are also told to kill anyone who we even think is worshiping a god other than the god of Abraham and kill everyone who lives in the same town as that person.

Child Abuse
The Bible is full of support for child abuse. In Proverbs we are told to beat our children with a rod. The books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy tell parents to kill their children if they curse or disobey them. The Bible even has God claiming that he will have the flesh of children eaten if their parents disobey his word. Children are murdered left and right at the command of God throughout the Bible while making no exceptions for infants or the unborn children still inside their mothers’ wombs.

The Bible ... cornerstone of morality indeed
 

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lol, you know what is ur doing ? you are OVERGENERALIZING !
these verses were said to the prophets during their period according to what was going on, cuz disbelievers then were waging wars against prophets ,they were Tyrants and words won't do any good...it does not talk about our time...im not gonna write any verse in eng cuz i dont know how to but in explanation most verses encourages Muslims to befriend others no matter what their religion is.
Our Prophet Mohammad , peace be upon him, had a jew neighbour...and the prophet always said Peace to him whenever he passes by, till one day the man dies and the prophet asked God to forgive him...the Qur'an in most is telling the stories of the beginning of mankind and some of it ,as u wrote, were words directed to the prophets not to us...read the whole Surah then come talk...but do NOT insult the book of God by saying it calls out to erase disbelievers...who are we to judge people when the creator can judge them...plus most verses that are sent to Muslims as guidance all of them saying that you must treat people as the treat you...and do not wage war aginst disbelievers unless the start first...so do not twist words for what they meant.


By asking god to "forgive" someone then you are already admitting in your mind that he has done some type of wrong.You have already judged him on your eyes.And like you said you do not have the right to do so.People can have opinions but religion takes them and forces others to bow down to them.Mohamed only preached peace when it was in his best interest.
he waged many battle against others to convert he also killed.How does a prophet judge and kill people then preach about peace ? Nothing you can say can justify his actions he is not god himself and has no right to force his beliefs on another human being.You do not need "god" to be a good person at heart.There is someone right now in this world who preaches love and peace and actually follows his words while simultaneously not believing in god.And by any religious standards be damned for all eternity.Not because brings about hate,not because he has killed someone,not because he forced anothers will under his but because he does not believe what the other believes.
 
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lol@Orochimaru.
"Earth's orbit is actually not perfectly circular so the distance between the Earth and the Sun varies slightly over the course of the year, from a minimum of 147.1 million kilometers (91 million miles) to a maximum of 152.1 million kilometers (94.5 million miles)."

Moving an inch closer really would burn us haha :D
 

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This thread is pathetic, its a bunch of zealots who think they know what evolution is and trying to disprove it, and a bunch of atheists trying to explain what it is. Followed by the zealots yelling "GOD DID IT!!!! YOU SHALL BURN FOREVER!!!!!"
I told you to close this thread -_-

most of it yes but there are several good posts
 

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lol@Orochimaru.
"Earth's orbit is actually not perfectly circular so the distance between the Earth and the Sun varies slightly over the course of the year, from a minimum of 147.1 million kilometers (91 million miles) to a maximum of 152.1 million kilometers (94.5 million miles)."

Moving an inch closer really would burn us haha :D

You do know that the earth gets OVER 1 inch closer to the sun per year right? and the moon drifts from our gravitational field by also 1 inch per year.
 

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most of it yes but there are several good posts

You and a few Others have made intelligent points, but dumb asses on both sides undermine whatever good could come out of this thread.
 

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Yes

Because to choose to not believe in something bigger than yourself is to have no purpose in your life.

Without God your life has no real purpose I feel sorry for those that refuse Him.
 

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You do know that the earth gets OVER 1 inch closer to the sun per year right? and the moon drifts from our gravitational field by also 1 inch per year.

Yes yes but some religious people have had that silly facebook chain message that claims we would die if the orbit moves even by inch. I guess Orochimaru believed in that
 
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