Do you believe in God?

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...but...what? Of course it is...that's just...U_U

Atheism is always trying to prove something; it would seem that you do not understand it.

Theism is not trying to prove the belief in a creator since that is based on faith. However, it takes a lot more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a theist.

I was hoping that I wouldn't have to pull this card because I get flamed every time for lack of understanding: atheism is a religion. It has all the makings of a religion, it even goes so far as to prove other religions to be false. The deity of atheism? None other than the person believing in it...which is called humanism.

Don't even bother with a response to that; I've heard it a thousand times over. I know everything you, or anyone else, has to say about it...so I bring it back to what is truth: truth is something one believes to be true.

"Theism is not trying to prove the belief in a creator since that is based on faith. "

That is exactly why it gets ridiculed... You can believe it, but it will not be taken seriously.

You get flamed for calling atheism a religion because it is misinformation. You are ill-informed on atheism.

"truth is something one believes to be true"

Sure. But without evidence, it will not be taken seriously.

Again. Atheism is the rejection of belief in deities. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[synkross]

well, this kind of threads can go on and on and on......

but why not ask a scholar? instead of posting on an anime site

here is a link of Dr. Zakir Naik answering about the existance of God

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Just listen once with an open mind and then you can decide whatever you want.......
Seriously, thinking that a person will change his entire life style just cuz someone(you don't know or trust) says so.....but whatever

 

[Shinobi Train]

"Theism is not trying to prove the belief in a creator since that is based on faith. "

That is exactly why it gets ridiculed... You can believe it, but it will not be taken seriously.

You get flamed for calling atheism a religion because it is misinformation. You are ill-informed on atheism.

"truth is something one believes to be true"

Sure. But without evidence, it will not be taken seriously.

Again. Atheism is the rejection of belief in a deity. Nothing more, nothing less.

I know more about atheism than 99% of atheists do...I actually studied it, okay.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

when you say 'MOST of them...' i'm assuming you are talking about atheists.. they do not need to prove anything. atheism is simply the rejection of belief in deities.

you are either religious or not. no such thing as being in the middle of it.

...Were you even reading it all in order?

I said I can't stand that there are some atheists who have to scoff at religious people for no reason and I also can't stand when religious people have to preach their beliefs when they're not even pastors, so I'm basically in the middle of that issue.

And I know they don't NEED to, but there are some who just have to try to make people not believe for no reason whatsoever.

 

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I know more about atheism than 99% of atheists do...I actually studied it, okay.

that is an argument from authority. that does not enhance your ill-informed definition of atheism.

Atheism is the rejection of belief in deities.

...Were you even reading it all in order?

I said I can't stand that there are some atheists who have to scoff at religious people for no reason and I also can't stand when religious people have to preach their beliefs when they're not even pastors, so I'm basically in the middle of that issue.

And I know they don't NEED to, but there are some who just have to try to make people not believe for no reason whatsoever.

i've really misread your last message. sorry!

People have plenty of reasons to criticize religious people for the practices they undertake. Take for example, the mutilation of a newborn child's genitalia, or telling a child they will burn in hell if they don't believe in God, or denying a child medical treatment, that saves lives, because of faith. There are many more.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

i've really misread your last message. sorry!

People have plenty of reasons to criticize religious people. Take for example, the mutilation of a newborn child's genitalia, or telling a child they will burn in hell in they don't believe in God, or denying a child medical treatment that can save their lives because of faith. There are many more.

1) I'm a Christian, so don't look at me to answer up for circumcision.

2) Not a single loving parent in history would DARE use that kind of statement to get their child to have faith, and I'm rather offended that you're even inferring that. Anyone who criticizes religion for something like that is stubborn almost beyond compare.

3) Are you just making these things up? NO ONE in this day and age leaves everything up to faith, especially medical treatment. My great-grandmother has cancer and she's the most religious person I know, but is she laying down in her bed at home praying for it to get better? No, she's in a hospital bed relying on doctors, not just God.

 

[Shinobi Train]

...Were you even reading it all in order?

I said I can't stand that there are some atheists who have to scoff at religious people for no reason and I also can't stand when religious people have to preach their beliefs when they're not even pastors, so I'm basically in the middle of that issue.

And I know they don't NEED to, but there are some who just have to try to make people not believe for no reason whatsoever.

U_U Just give it up, wizard...there's no point. U_U

 

[Chakra Wizard]

U_U Just give it up, wizard...there's no point. U_U

I'm about to, man. I really amU_U

 

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1) I'm a Christian, so don't look at me to answer up for circumcision.

2) Not a single loving parent in history would DARE use that kind of statement to get their child to have faith, and I'm rather offended that you're even inferring that. Anyone who criticizes religion for something like that is stubborn almost beyond compare.

3) Are you just making these things up? NO ONE in this day and age leaves everything up to faith, especially medical treatment. My great-grandmother has cancer and she's the most religious person I know, but is she laying down in her bed at home praying for it to get better? No, she's in a hospital bed relying on doctors, not just God.

as a christian do you hate everything except jesus?

in the bible what does it say happens to non-believers?

3 - look up jehovah's witnesses and blood transfusion.

do you also believe that a newborn child is born in "sin" that it has inherited from an imaginary being named Adam? This is scapegoating by the way.

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

You suck at the whole "arguing" thing. You've just spammed the same thing like 10 times and made yourself look like a dumbass, i don't even need to make fun of your IQ you do it yourself.

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Ok I will argue with you seriously U_U
on one condition, you keep your tongue in control. dont insult anyone, and argue with facts and figures,and try to understand what i say in spite of my so called bad grammer and engish

Bring it on.

 

[toothpaste]

U_U Just give it up, wizard...there's no point. U_U

what's up with the patronizing comments?

you've proven nothing yet strut around triumphantly.

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

So, if I fly a plane into some buildings, or blow up some people; that'll save me from this "bottomless pit" that you speak of?

misconceptions. If Hitler was bad, does that mean all Christians are bad?

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[~Lumos~]

Yes i do Believe in Allah(GOD). Why?? Because existence of hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe Billions of Planets Stars All are revolving in a perfect order existence of life n everything how can this be JUST A COINCIDENCE???
I don't get it why its hard for some people to accept existence and immortality of the Deity and easy for them calling this whole system a coincidence or this whole system was there from the start.
i saw some posts above people saying that they do not believe in religion Becos its too fictional and supernatural.not everything can be explained by facts and science. The human mind is a true marvel, but in certain areas it is limited its true that we don't see miracles these days which would make us believe in God
But have u ever heard of BARMUDA TRIANGLE ,sHIPS AND PLANES disappearing into Thin air ?? Does SCIENCE proves it ?? No.
similarly there are things in the world which we can't see but they do Exist .can u see pain? morality ? honesty? but u certainly can feel it Just like people who have faith in God can feel the Almighty.​

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

I guess sarcasm doesn't go well with the interwebs. Who knew?

keep a broad mind dear one. Am I flying a plane to gate crash your party or your home? I dont believe violence is the solution to every problem. You are hearing this from a Muslim. We love humanity. And yes we do fight. fight in defence, when we are being opressed or when there is a logical explanation to fight. and I tell you that almost every true Muslim can give up his/her life for their faith. no matter how dire the situation is. no matter how much they are tortured, they dont give up their faith. This is the beauty of our religion. now people will call that brain-washing and stuff. no. it is our own choice. how can you brainwash the billions of Muslims worldwide? Its the love of our faith. we take pride in it because when we study it, we can tell its the real deal.

 

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Yes i do Believe in Allah(GOD). Why?? Because existence of hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe Billions of Planets Stars All are revolving in a perfect order existence of life n everything how can this be JUST A COINCIDENCE???
I don't get it why its hard for some people to accept existence and immortality of the Deity and easy for them calling this whole system a coincidence or this whole system was there from the start.
i saw some posts above people saying that they do not believe in religion Becos its too fictional and supernatural.not everything can be explained by facts and science. The human mind is a true marvel, but in certain areas it is limited its true that we don't see miracles these days which would make us believe in God
But have u ever heard of BARMUDA TRIANGLE ,sHIPS AND PLANES disappearing into Thin air ?? Does SCIENCE proves it ?? No.
similarly there are things in the world which we can't see but they do Exist .can u see pain? morality ? honesty? but u certainly can feel it Just like people who have faith in God can feel the Almighty.​

You argue: there are billions of galaxies. this cannot be coincidence therefore GOD. Do you also use God as an explanation for disease, torture, and genocide too? Or do you have a double standard?

God is something a lazy person would use to explain something.

We can feel pain. We can be ethical and moral without God. We can see someones honesty.

Science is on its way to prove many things. Science does mean knowledge..

If Science cannot find an answer, what makes you think religion can?

 

[Xentinel]

A believer.

My opinion, there is God indeed. And I believe in what Science says. I dont think what Science taught us today has contradict the belief in fact science theorist gave us a better and clearer picture on how God did it. For example, I believe the BigBang Theory. However, this doesnt contradicts my faith. In fact, this gave me a better idea on how God did the universe. At least, I knew how it was done. So that people wont gave some stupid theory on how it was done like God did Universe with his own hands or he just snapped his finger and "Tada!~ The world." Though it has been explained in the Quran on Bigbang, the idea of Bigbang is already there actually. Go search it. And not only that, but seriously more..

Also, I wanted to add something. I know seeing is believing. I believe the Atheist didnt believe simply because they didnt see God and some other miracles. But what if God is the one who prevent us to see Him? Just think in a simple way. If God show himself, you see God, you believe in him, you turn a religious person and obey everything he says. Then what about this? In exam, your teacher reveals all the answers, everyone copied it, everyone get full mark, everyone graduated and get a job. Isnt better that way? No challenges, hardship or struggle?

Lastly, my opinion is that Belive in God dont need Evidence but Faith.

 

[toothpaste]

A believer.

My opinion, there is God indeed. And I believe in what Science says. I dont think what Science taught us today has contradict the belief in fact science theorist gave us a better and clearer picture on how God did it. For example, I believe the BigBang Theory. However, this doesnt contradicts my faith. In fact, this gave me a better idea on how God did the universe. At least, I knew how it was done. So that people wont gave some stupid theory on how it was done like God did Universe with his own hands or he just snapped his finger and "Tada!~ The world." Though it has been explained in the Quran on Bigbang, the idea of Bigbang is already there actually. Go search it. And not only that, but seriously more..

Also, I wanted to add something. I know seeing is believing. I believe the Atheist didnt believe simply because they didnt see God and some other miracles. But what if God is the one who prevent us to see Him? Just think in a simple way. If God show himself, you see God, you believe in him, you turn a religious person and obey everything he says. Then what about this? In exam, your teacher reveals all the answers, everyone copied it, everyone get full mark, everyone graduated and get a job. Isnt better that way? No challenges, hardship or struggle?

Lastly, my opinion is that Belive in God dont need Evidence but Faith.

So this God of yours made us to be rational thinkers. Then your God denies us evidence of its existence. Then your God condemns people who do not believe, into eternal suffering? Your God condemns people for using the brain that it gave us?

What type of God is that?

 

[Shawnd]

Yes, it is true God exist.. and proof is that no matter what you say to yourselves or others or choose to say that dont believe which is a (lie) becuase it states in the bible that God distributes a small amount of faith to everyone who is born.. meaning no MATTER what you say, hear, see, or go through you will always believe in him a little bit...

Faith is a gift from God. Faith is of the Spirit and anything that is not of faith is of the flesh. In fact, whatever is not of faith is sin (Romans 14:23). There is NOTHING of the Spirit that is accomplished by the efforts of the flesh. The flesh cannot produce the things of the Spirit. Only the Spirit can produce the things of the Spirit. Works can never produce righteousness; good deeds and religious activities cannot produce salvation; good living cannot inherit the favor of God. Isaiah 64:6 tells us that all of our righteous acts are filthy rags in God’s sight and Proverbs 21:4 tells us that even the plowing of the wicked is sin. How can tilling the ground and doing good work equal sin? Whatever is not of faith is sin. Romans 7:18 we are told that, “For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells”. The flesh is at war with the Spirit and the flesh against the Spirit and the two cannot agree (Galatians 5:17)

Lastly, and most importantly his son .. Lord Jesus Christ.. BOW TO HIM!!!

 

[Anorien16]

Yes, it is true God exist.. and proof is that no matter what you say to yourselves or others or choose to say that dont believe which is a (lie) becuase it states in the bible that God distributes a small amount of faith to everyone who is born.. meaning no MATTER what you say, hear, see, or go through you will always believe in him a little bit...

Faith is a gift from God. Faith is of the Spirit and anything that is not of faith is of the flesh. In fact, whatever is not of faith is sin (Romans 14:23). There is NOTHING of the Spirit that is accomplished by the efforts of the flesh. The flesh cannot produce the things of the Spirit. Only the Spirit can produce the things of the Spirit. Works can never produce righteousness; good deeds and religious activities cannot produce salvation; good living cannot inherit the favor of God. Isaiah 64:6 tells us that all of our righteous acts are filthy rags in God’s sight and Proverbs 21:4 tells us that even the plowing of the wicked is sin. How can tilling the ground and doing good work equal sin? Whatever is not of faith is sin. Romans 7:18 we are told that, “For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells”. The flesh is at war with the Spirit and the flesh against the Spirit and the two cannot agree (Galatians 5:17)

Lastly, and most importantly his son .. Lord Jesus Christ.. BOW TO HIM!!!

So basically if I dont label myself as a Christian whatever good deeds I do would amount to S.H.I.T. and would be damned to hell for eternity? Cool more reason for me not to label myself, I may bow to Jesus because he showed us great philosophical and moral values but I will never bow to anyone because I want to go to heaven. What kind of God is he who does not care about good people, a Christian murderer can go to heaven but a Buddhist social worker can not . . . . wonderful logic.

 

[Nathan]

Lastly, and most importantly his son .. Lord Jesus Christ.. BOW TO HIM!!!

I'm not going to bow to someone, just because you demand me too, or because the bible could have been written by anyone.