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"the universe is born when you are born. "

I was having a discussion about the 4th dimension of this universe with a certain someone. And i asked him if he thought that our universe was born within time or outside time, in other words if time was given it's role after the creation of ALL or before the ALL .


Do you agree with his conclusion? Or nah.
 

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Time is judged by the change in things so if the universe was yet to be born then there would be nothing before that meaning that there was no time
 

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Time is perception.

I like the idea of Outside Time
 

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Time is perception.

I like the idea of Outside Time
Time is no concept my friend, the existence of "eggs" in instinctual creature is a small clue

Time is judged by the change in things so if the universe was yet to be born then there would be nothing before that meaning that there was no time
Nothing is a powerful word that should be never taken lightly...

* He could make an argument that in your dreams, you arrive there , there are already "forces", "space", "characters". <=== this renders your "there were things before" useless
 

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If something can progress,expand, have form. They are subjugated to the laws of Space-Time.
 

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Explain to me, pregnancy

The beginning of new life.

Before any conception happen, there exist inside living creatures body a sperm and ovum *not counting asexual(binary fission).*

We then used time to determine the phase of development.

We still can live a normal life without knowing a time and period.
 
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Universe was created after a giant black hole was banged with a big bang. That's the most widely accepted theory and the flow of time started at the same time. From that big bang chaos came out and we're the result of that chaos.
 

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Time isn't a tangible thing. It can't be stopped, or effected in anyway. It has no source, no limit. Wasn't created and can't be destroyed. It's the only known "Thing" that has been and will always be. Everything in the universe revolves around time because everything but time can live, die, or be destroyed with enough force.

So if it answers your question the Universe came after time. Time existed before "All" and was given it's role based on Human assumptions and theories.
 

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Universe was created after a giant black hole was banged with a big bang. That's the most widely accepted theory and the flow of time started at the same time. From that big bang chaos came out and we're the result of that chaos.

We all know that theory, based on the infinite mass compression called the very first singularity. Most astrophysics agree with that theory, some does not.

Time isn't a tangible thing. It can't be stopped, or effected in anyway. It has no source, no limit. Wasn't created and can't be destroyed. It's the only known "Thing" that has been and will always be. Everything in the universe revolves around time because everything but time can live, die, or be destroyed with enough force.

So if it answers your question the Universe came after time. Time existed before "All" and was given it's role based on Human assumptions and theories.


Yes, as long as something changes state or have motion then it is directly connected to the space-time continnuum.
 
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We all know that theory, based on the infinite mass compression called the very first singularity. Most astrophysics agree with that theory, some does not.

Its a bit difficult to take in I know. I always think what was there than, before the Universe came into existence? A giant black hole and empty space? Why the big bang event even happened?

These questions are what I'd like to know.
 

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Time is a concept created by humans to help us cope and understand the movement of particles to my understanding. So technically time only exists because humans made it.
 

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Its a bit difficult to take in I know. I always think what was there than, before the Universe came into existence? A giant black hole and empty space? Why the big bang event even happened?

These questions are what I'd like to know.

There is no "before" time, time is strictly based on the changes of this universe. There is no action before the creation.

There is Only a void of unimaginable conception.
 

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Would say within time but I don't know. Things are still pass our imagination or perception
 
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