do we have free choice ?

[Light yagami Kira]

think about it... if there a god out there than he must know what you will do cause god knows everything...
than that mean some one out there must know what you are going to do in the future therefore you have no free choice... (did you know that a jewish woman created a program that can predict the future in some cases like deseases and stuff ? that mean that everything is follow by some law of phisics and if some one will know all the rules he can know what will happen)...

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Well of course you have a free choice. However, he already knows what's going to happen, even if you change it.

 

[Troi]

It's still a free choice. Just because someone or something knows you will do something doesn't mean it will change and it doesn't mean they can/will change it. It will always be yours to make, regardless.

 

[Kαmi]

I think so. If God exists, I don't think he's controlling us like puppets. That would be lame Lol. If he knows what I'm gonna do, wouldn't that just make him omnipotent and psychic rather than controlling our actions? Sounds more viable to me.

 

[Light yagami Kira]

It's still a free choice. Just because someone or something knows you will do something doesn't mean it will change. It will always be yours to make, regardless.

but some one know what is going to happen he can predict it which mean you dont choose if some one already know all of your life

 

[Tingun]

Yes we have free choice, in religion a supernatural entity simply knows what choices you will make, you will still choose them. You choose to make this thread, if it was already known that you would make it, it does not change the fact that you thought about, reasoned and decided to make it.

 

[Troi]

but some one know what is going to happen he can predict it which mean you dont choose if some one already know all of your life

That doesn't mean they are choosing it for us. They just know what we're going to do. That logic is flawed.

 

[Light yagami Kira]

the only time when you get free from god is when you die...

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

but some one know what is going to happen he can predict it which mean you dont choose if some one already know all of your life

God knows what you will do even before you were born I think ._. And if God chooses our choices, then all of us will be good.

 

[Troi]

the only time when you get free from god is when you die...

Are you trolling?

 

[Light yagami Kira]

That doesn't mean they are choosing it for us. They just know what we're going to do. That logic is flawed.

yes it does... that mean no matter what you think god always mislead you to choose what he want you to choose and he did it more than one time in the bible

 

[Light yagami Kira]

i think that humans are stupid because they dont work together... if we stop think about our self and start working together we might figure this out i mean i think we are just a small part of a big system/ brain which we can call god

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

yes it does... that mean no matter what you think god always mislead you to choose what he want you to choose and he did it more than one time in the bible

So you're saying God intended for Hitler to kill so many jews?

 

[Tingun]

i think that humans are stupid because they dont work together... if we stop think about our self and start working together we might figure this out i mean i think we are just a small part of a big system/ brain which we can call god

Collectivism? lel

 

[Troi]

yes it does... that mean no matter what you think god always mislead you to choose what he want you to choose and he did it more than one time in the bible

That's not what the OP is about, though, the way you worded it. God doesn't control us. That's silly. Does he lead people to not believe in him as well? Because there are plenty of atheist out there. And you say "mislead".

mis·lead
misˈlēd/
verb
verb: mislead; 3rd person present: misleads; past tense: misled; past participle: misled; gerund or present participle: misleading

1.
cause (someone) to have a wrong idea or impression about someone or something.

Do you think he "misleads" you into giving a loved one a gift? Misleading you into buying a new puppy? Misleading you into having a child you'll soon love and care for?

Did he mislead me to prove that you are terrible at debating? Or type on a keyboard? Or find this website? Or choose to use it? No. That was all me.

 

[Light yagami Kira]

So you're saying God intended for Hitler to kill so many jews?

yes. and im a jew by the way and i do believe this cause without that the jews might not get their own country

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

yes. and im a jew by the way and i do believe this cause without that the jews might not get their own country

You are obviously fooled by false assumptions. Tell me, why, why would he do such a thing to his people?

 

[Peace Maker]

wait so you mean when somebody having s*x right now. god was watching?

 

[Troi]

wait so you mean when somebody having s*x right now. god was watching?

Watching? According to him, God made it happen in the first place.

 

[Light yagami Kira]

yes that what i mean