Do people think that PS has superior defensive capabilities to TSB ?

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TSB is a stronger defense, Madara's perfect susanoo was obliterated but Obito's shield withstood it

Also Kaguya destroyed susanoo with mere chakra arms

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[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

TSB is a stronger defense, Madara's perfect susanoo was obliterated but Obito's shield withstood it

Also Kaguya destroyed susanoo with mere chakra arms

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Sasuke's Susano'o aint no Madara's PS

 

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Onmyoudon is tiers above PS U_U

Indeed

Wait when did Gai break through TSB?

Actually he had Kakashi Kamui the outer layer of TSB barrage so he could punch Madara

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Because they're retarded

Meh , they are just being extreme fanboys

 

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Never said it was , but TSB is in a whole other league

DIdn't say you said it. i just said it. you know what i said just now?

OT: agreed.

 

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Sasuke's Susano'o aint no Madara's PS

Indeed. Sasuke's susano is superior to madara's fodder PS

 

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So TSB lose its defensive feats because what it's weak against, senjutsu, worked....

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Indeed. Sasuke's susano is superior to madara's fodder PS

Ahahaha nope , plus Madara's PS has wings too kid

 

[ANiMUS]

TSB is a stronger defense, Madara's perfect susanoo was obliterated but Obito's shield withstood it

Also Kaguya destroyed susanoo with mere chakra arms

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Also, in order to get through the omnyoton shield you have to use senjutsu. Senjutsu uses nature energy in a balance with physical and spiritual energy. Obito doesn't know how to do this so its a given that those TBB weren't senjutsu. Because of that Obito could erase the explosion effortlessly, meaning his shield took no damage because the explosion was erased.

 

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If it's Sasuke's Susano'o, then this is a pointless thread.

 

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It might be a small tbb and a CM susanoo arrow was able to break pieces off of it. Guy was able to kick Madara through them, a susano'o sword was able to cut through it, multiple senpou rasengan were able to break apart a shield made from the black orbs as well..............:vincent: Yeah, in defense PS> black orbs. The black orb's main thing is erasing ninjutsu. If it can't erase ninjutsu then its defensive factor falls.

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Read my posts on the thread. Gai was able to do that with 8th gate and Kakashi kamuing the outer layer of Gudo dama barrage,
So a Senjutsu Kyuubi Enhanced Susanoo with Naruto having TB chakra to play tug of war with Juubito chakra broke that ? Seems legit , not. He could do that because of of Naruto. Gai already obliterated Madara's full Susanoo not PS, 8th gate would crush it.

Here, Madara PS after Shinju tailed beast bombs completely broken

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Juubito after Shinju tailed beast bombs, it's clear who's superior

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[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Also, in order to get through the omnyoton shield you have to use senjutsu. Senjutsu uses nature energy in a balance with physical and spiritual energy. Obito doesn't know how to do this so its a given that those TBB weren't senjutsu. Because of that Obito could erase the explosion effortlessly, meaning his shield took no damage because the explosion was erased.

how exactly do you erase an explosion?

by your logic madara should have absorbed the explosion with preta path

 

[ANiMUS]

Read my posts on the thread. Gai was able to do that with 8th gate and Kakashi kamuing the outer layer of Gudo dama barrage,
So a Senjutsu Kyuubi Enhanced Susanoo with Naruto having TB chakra to play tug of war with Juubito chakra broke that ? Seems legit , not. He could do that because of of Naruto. Gai already obliterated Madara's full Susanoo not PS, 8th gate would crush it.

Here, Madara PS after Shinju tailed beast bombs completely broken

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Juubito after Shinju tailed beast bombs, it's clear who's superior

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Also, in order to get through the omnyoton shield you have to use senjutsu. Senjutsu uses nature energy in a balance with physical and spiritual energy. Obito doesn't know how to do this so its a given that those TBB weren't senjutsu. Because of that Obito could erase the explosion effortlessly, meaning his shield took no damage because the explosion was erased.

Cracked by senjutsu tbb and CM susano'o arrow

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Shield busted by kyuubi senjutsu oudama rasengan

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[ANiMUS]

how exactly do you erase an explosion?

by your logic madara should have absorbed the explosion with preta path

the same way it erases ice, shuriken, hiruzen and everything else that isn't senjutsu. Nothing that touches omyouton that isn't senjutsu is effective. Preta Path only affects chakra though

 

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Also, in order to get through the omnyoton shield you have to use senjutsu. Senjutsu uses nature energy in a balance with physical and spiritual energy. Obito doesn't know how to do this so its a given that those TBB weren't senjutsu. Because of that Obito could erase the explosion effortlessly, meaning his shield took no damage because the explosion was erased.

Cracked by senjutsu tbb and CM susano'o arrow

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Shield busted by kyuubi senjutsu oudama rasengan

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Just like to add, do you think PS could've tanked or even survived the attacks that broke through TSB?

 

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Also, in order to get through the omnyoton shield you have to use senjutsu. Senjutsu uses nature energy in a balance with physical and spiritual energy. Obito doesn't know how to do this so its a given that those TBB weren't senjutsu. Because of that Obito could erase the explosion effortlessly, meaning his shield took no damage because the explosion was erased.

Cracked by senjutsu tbb and CM susano'o arrow

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Shield busted by kyuubi senjutsu oudama rasengan

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Again a combination of 3 different types of chakras. Kakashi kamui-ed the barrage. Btw what does that underlined part even mean ? Madara PS was crushed , Obito's TsB barrier was not. What is more into that ?

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[ANiMUS]

Just like to add, do you think PS could've tanked or even survived the attacks that broke through TSB?

A small tbb and a CM susano'o arrow? yeah definitely

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The rasengans that busted the shield would get stopped as well, but if its the sword. I doubt PS could tank it. It would have to match its sword with the incoming sword.

PS + bijuu senjutsu seems about equal to a PS with the sage's chakra so they could counter

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Again a combination of 3 different types of chakras. Kakashi kamui-ed the barrage. Btw what does that underlined part even mean ? Madara PS was crushed , Obito's TsB barrier was not. What is more into that ?

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They were only able to affect the black orbs via senjutsu. Obito doesn't know how to use senjutsu so the Bijuudama that were fired by Obito did not contain senjutsu. Everything that is not senjutsu gets nerfed so the explosion from the Bijuudama (that lacks senjutsu) was nerfed

 

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If it's vs a senjutsu attack, I think PS might be slight stronger than TSB due to its sheer size.

However, if it's not against a senjutsu attack, TSB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS, as

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A small tbb and a CM susano'o arrow? yeah definitely

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The rasengans that busted the shield would get stopped as well, but if its the sword. I doubt PS could tank it. It would have to match its sword with the incoming sword.

PS + bijuu senjutsu seems about equal to a PS with the sage's chakra so they could counter



They were only able to affect the black orbs via senjutsu. Obito doesn't know how to use senjutsu so the Bijuudama that were fired by Obito did not contain senjutsu. Everything that is not senjutsu gets nerfed so the explosion from the Bijuudama (that lacks senjutsu) was nerfed

Ok I see then. No need for me to ask anymore.

 

[ANiMUS]

If it's vs a senjutsu attack, I think PS might be slight stronger than TSB due to its sheer size.

However, if it's not against a senjutsu attack, TSB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS, as

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Smartest answer in the entire thread. You sir deserve +rep

Ok I see then. No need for me to ask anymore.

If you think that Kyuubi chakra with senjutsu is greater than chakra given from Hagoromo then that is fine by me.

 

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They were only able to affect the black orbs via senjutsu. Obito doesn't know how to use senjutsu so the Bijuudama that were fired by Obito did not contain senjutsu. Everything that is not senjutsu gets nerfed so the explosion from the Bijuudama (that lacks senjutsu) was nerfed

Not sure if you are serious :|

Obito created the TBB directly from the God tree ( Shinju ) which is the progenitor of all chakra and is pure nature energy.Again that doesn't change the fact that his TSB wasn't even flinched in contrast to Madara's PS. Did you at least get that ?

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