[Discussion] Do people still believe in the sabo hype as much as when after dressrosa was finished

[Rikudou Tobi]

He didn't not do anything he put in enough effort to stalemate sabo. The point is fuji had a reason not to go all out. Sabo didn't. It's possible that sabo wasnt going all out but he had no reason not to. All we can conclude is that sabo is capable of fighting an admiral but so is Luffy but he would lose. These levels are stupid anyway. Fuji is stronger I think but I don't know if you can say sabo is on his level? What difficulty does a fight have to be for them to be on the same level?

I can barely understand what you're trying to say here, I already addressed that Fujitora was not going all out, but clearly neither was Sabo. This kind of level fight is the same thing as Marco vs Kizaru during the paramount war. And yes, Sabo is clearly on his level. They were both able to equally put out the same amount of effort without one getting pass the other, neither of them were able to put each other down for a second in their fight. That was the whole point of my post.
Fujitora being way stronger than Sabo is a speculation until further notice, what I saw was a complete deadlock.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I can barely understand what you're trying to say here, I already addressed that Fujitora was not going all out, but clearly neither was Sabo. This kind of level fight is the same thing as Marco vs Kizaru during the paramount war. And yes, Sabo is clearly on his level. They were both able to equally put out the same amount of effort without one getting pass the other, neither of them were able to put each other down for a second in their fight. That was the whole point of my post.
Fujitora being way stronger than Sabo is a speculation until further notice, what I saw was a complete deadlock.

Well that is wrong. Sabo wasn't holding back and that is just stupid of him since he was losing. Sabo himself called Fuji out on him holding back and thought to himself "What is he plotting!?" Fuji even asked Sabo to ease up a little and Sabo said he doesn't discriminate.

Sabo had bruises, was breathing heavily and was the one sitting down resting while Fuji didn't have a scratch. Losing to someone holding back isn't deadlocking or being on the same level. That's like saying Luffy & Cracker or Jozu & Aokiji were the same level. The fight was simply ended before Fujitora won/Sabo lost.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well that is wrong. Sabo wasn't holding back and that is just stupid of him since he was losing. Sabo himself called Fuji out on him holding back and thought to himself "What is he plotting!?" Fuji even asked Sabo to ease up a little and Sabo said he doesn't discriminate.

This is wrong and utterly stupid bias thinking. Sabo was never losing, and you'd have to be incompetent illiterate to not read the fine print during their match. Sabo himself never said fujitora was holding back, that's just fanfic. Fujitora also never told Sabo to ease up as well.
You need to drop the fanfic here and read word for word what was written on the page.

Sabo had bruises, was breathing heavily and was the one sitting down resting while Fuji didn't have a scratch. Losing to someone holding back isn't deadlocking or being on the same level. That's like saying Luffy & Cracker or Jozu & Aokiji were the same level. The fight was simply ended before Fujitora won/Sabo lost.

Sabo had no bruises whatsoever and he was not breathing heavily either otherwise he wouldn't of been able to destroy Burguess afterwards. And when Fujitori sat down with the King to rest while watching Luffy do his job, Sabo goes after the First mate Jesus of the Blackbeard yonkou ship in a dual to an utter domination. No rest whatsoever.
The rest is equally nonsensical but irrelevant.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

This is wrong and utterly stupid bias thinking. Sabo was never losing, and you'd have to be incompetent illiterate to not read the fine print during their match. Sabo himself never said fujitora was holding back, that's just fanfic. Fujitora also never told Sabo to ease up as well.
You need to drop the fanfic here and read word for word what was written on the page.

I did and typical Rikudou Tobi with the insults cause he can't give a proper argument and ignore other point. Its good to know that getting bruised up, breathing heavily and being unable to scratch your opponent who wasn't going all out is being on the same level.

Sabo had no bruises whatsoever and he was not breathing heavily either otherwise he wouldn't of been able to destroy Burguess afterwards. And when Fujitori sat down with the King to rest while watching Luffy do his job, Sabo goes after the First mate Jesus of the Blackbeard yonkou ship in a dual to an utter domination.

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This settles the irony of you always insulting a person's reading comprehension and "lack of knowledge" when you don't know anything yourself. Too easy. Sabo also time to rest before he fought Burgess. Its not like he had internal damage or something but he was clearly worn out. Who's illiterate now?

No rest whatsoever.
The rest is equally nonsensical but irrelevant.

Perfectly relevant cause it directly correlates to your flawed logic but its very in character for you to ignore it like you do anything you have no counter argument against(random insults doesn't count).

 

[Punk Hazard]

This is wrong and utterly stupid bias thinking. Sabo was never losing, and you'd have to be incompetent illiterate to not read the fine print during their match. Sabo himself never said fujitora was holding back, that's just fanfic. Fujitora also never told Sabo to ease up as well.
You need to drop the fanfic here and read word for word what was written on the page.

Sabo had no bruises whatsoever and he was not breathing heavily either otherwise he wouldn't of been able to destroy Burguess afterwards. And when Fujitori sat down with the King to rest while watching Luffy do his job, Sabo goes after the First mate Jesus of the Blackbeard yonkou ship in a dual to an utter domination. No rest whatsoever.
The rest is equally nonsensical but irrelevant.

Sabo has bruises during the fight lmfao Not only that, but he's breathing hard

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Fujitora's words in that page indicate he was holding back, which is backed up by Sabo saying "This is more like it" in the next page

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After the fight, Sabo still has bruises

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His convo with Sabo implies that Fuji chose to end the fight because Sabo is backing Luffy, who Fuji sees as being the one who should have taken down Doffy and not the Marines. When Sabo asks about it looking suspicious, Fuji says people will just assume he couldn't get past Sabo

 

[OG sama]

I never understood the hype, any Badass character that fights an admiral has to be top tier to you people, which makes no sense. Fuji wasn't even remotely serious with Sabo and neither was Kizaru with Marco.

Its just sad to me how the admirals get no respect from the fandom, these guys are EOS threats, they can ravage an entire island and fight for almost a week but yet people think they have showed us everything they can do? LoL

Admirals are on another level compared to Yonko commanders, the YC are guys who will be beaten and surpassed now, whereas the Admirals won't be defeated until EOS.

Admirals are undoubtedly on the same level as a Yonko even if the Yonko are a bit stronger.

So Sabo being near that level right now is laughable, I'm not even sure if Sabo is stronger than Doflamingo, he's most likely on his level or up their with a YC2 like Jozu at best.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I did and typical Rikudou Tobi with the insults cause he can't give a proper argument and ignore other point. Its good to know that getting bruised up, breathing heavily and being unable to scratch your opponent who wasn't going all out is being on the same level.

Typical Vander rambling on useless nonsense without a rebuttal to give. And I didn't insult you either because see if you weren't so incompetent you would know that by now.
So like I said before, Sabo was not bruise. Confusing a few speck dust to a wound would also implicate that

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(despite Peeka not being able to land a single hand on him) just because Zoro is covered in dirt"bruises."
Now open your eyes and look at Sabo's perfect condition and tell me where he's heavily breathing with bruises all again.

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This settles the irony of you always insulting a person's reading comprehension and "lack of knowledge" when you don't know anything yourself. Too easy. Sabo also time to rest before he fought Burgess. Its not like he had internal damage or something but he was clearly worn out. Who's illiterate now?

Haha so weak. Nope, you're still illiterate. Because Sabo did not rest at all during that catastrophic, otherwise show me where he lied down on the bare as floor sleeping to get some rest? Otherwise you cut that weak ass fanfiction of yours. You know I operate on a much more higher intellect than you, so you're half ass retorts don't work on me.
Now while Fujitora was sitting on the sideline taking "HIS" rest, Sabo was out there looking for Luffy's location because he might need help. And would you look at that! He's not bruised or resting!

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God you're so easy to destroy.

Perfectly relevant cause it directly correlates to your flawed logic but its very in character for you to ignore it like you do anything you have no counter argument against(random insults doesn't count).

More irrelevancy

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Typical Vander rambling on useless nonsense without a rebuttal to give. And I didn't insult you either because see if you weren't so incompetent you would know that by now.
So like I said before, Sabo was not bruise. Confusing a few speck dust to a wound would also implicate that

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(despite Peeka not being able to land a single hand on him) just because Zoro is covered in dirt"bruises."
Now open your eyes and look at Sabo's perfect condition and tell me where he's heavily breathing with bruises all again.

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Haha so weak. Nope, you're still illiterate. Because Sabo did not rest at all during that catastrophic, otherwise show me where he lied down on the bare as floor sleeping to get some rest? Otherwise you cut that weak ass fanfiction of yours. You know I operate on a much more higher intellect than you, so you're half ass retorts don't work on me.
Now while Fujitora was sitting on the sideline taking "HIS" rest, Sabo was out there looking for Luffy's location because he might need help. And would you look at that! He's not bruised or resting!

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God you're so easy to destroy.


More irrelevancy

Tries to copy me, continues to ignore counter arguments, talking about "destroying", ignore the panels of Sabo being bruised & resting.....I can go on but I'll stop here. You're pretty much doing all the work for me Mr. online warrior.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Now open your eyes and look at Sabo's perfect condition and tell me where he's heavily breathing with bruises all again.
Haha so weak. Nope, you're still illiterate. Because Sabo did not rest at all during that catastrophic

And would you look at that! He's not bruised or resting!

Right here

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Sitting around doing nothing is rest. Meaning, his body isn't doing any kind of work. Meaning his strength is gonna be building back up.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Tries to copy me, continues to ignore counter arguments, talking about "destroying", ignore the panels of Sabo being bruised & resting.....I can go on but I'll stop here. You're pretty much doing all the work for me Mr. online warrior.

Was no rebuttal, ignored two panels of sabo without bruises, ignored the fact that i already addressed the specks of dirt issue just like zoro, and says I didn't counter despite 3 pages of counters provided...Logic :sdo:

Yeah you're done here. Defeated.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Was no rebuttal, ignored two panels of sabo without bruises, ignored the fact that i already addressed the specks of dirt issue just like zoro, and says I didn't counter despite 3 pages of counters provided...Logic :sdo:

Yeah you're done here. Defeated.

Funny how you ignore everyone else cause I hurt your feelings. Ignoring direct evidence doesn't help you look big & bad and neither does emotes or constant self-elevation about your "intelligence." Its easier to admit that you just don't like being wrong. Please tell me you don't feel accomplished acting like an online warrior....don't answer that. It'll just be more of your online flexing.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Was no rebuttal, ignored two panels of sabo without bruises, ignored the fact that i already addressed the specks of dirt issue just like zoro, and says I didn't counter despite 3 pages of counters provided...Logic :sdo:

Yeah you're done here. Defeated.

You are at it again ignoring manga facts and belittling debaters LOL

Sabo asked Fuji what the hell is he doing fighting like that, Fuji responded by asking if he isn't going to go easy on him since he is a blind man, Sabo went on to respond he doesn't discriminate. Fuji ended the fight because of his "gamble" and told Sabo not to worry about the Kaigun(all they saw was a stale mate battle). Right after battle sabo was shouted by Koala for being that reckless(going against Fuji) and was bruised breathing heavily. This may not be a 100% Sabo but it is no way in hell a Sabo = Fuji!

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Sabo hype? Where is this coming from?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Funny how you ignore everyone else cause I hurt your feelings. Ignoring direct evidence doesn't help you look big & bad and neither does emotes or constant self-elevation about your "intelligence." Its easier to admit that you just don't like being wrong. Please tell me you don't feel accomplished acting like an online warrior....don't answer that. It'll just be more of your online flexing.

3 things that I addressed that you did not counter and proven you wrong. 3 things and you ignored them. If you can't answer them, then keep your mouth shut and don't reply me.

I showed you Sabo's condition before he fought Burguess (no bruises)
I showed you Sabo not breathing hard after the fight
I showed you the fight ending to a deadlock by Fujitora's request.

And what did you give me? Nothing but complaints and insults. You started all the insults, I only responded in the same manner that you gave me. So if you cannot finish what you've already started, then keep your mouth shut and your opinions to yourself. It is not that hard. Don't complain about being belittled and insulting when you're the one starting the whole thing. That's just childish.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

3 things that I addressed that you did not counter and proven you wrong. 3 things and you ignored them. If you can't answer them, then keep your mouth shut and don't reply me.

I showed you Sabo's condition before he fought Burguess (no bruises)
I showed you Sabo not breathing hard after the fight
I showed you the fight ending to a deadlock by Fujitora's request.

And what did you give me? Nothing but complaints and insults. You started all the insults, I only responded in the same manner that you gave me. So if you cannot finish what you've already started, then keep your mouth shut and your opinions to yourself. It is not that hard. Don't complain about being belittled and insulting when you're the one starting the whole thing. That's just childish.

All you were doing was trying to disprove an objective fact because it doesn't help your subjective opinion of Sabo=Fujitora. Sinking or all new lows for claiming you don't throw insults first. I mean, insults from the get go and being an online warrior is what you're infamous for in the site. A lot more people think the same but here you are only focused on me cause I'm the one making you feel insecure in this topic. All the self elevation, always saying you defeat every post directed at you and talk of your "intellect" is evident of this. Those are completely irrelevant here so....

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

All you were doing was trying to disprove an objective fact

All the page I just posted is an objective fact. So wtf are you talking about. :|

because it doesn't help your subjective opinion of Sabo=Fujitora.

Fujitora being superior to sabo in any kind of way is subjective. Also "subjective opinion" is redundant, just say opinion. Lumping words together to try to sound intellegent doesn't help your case. The fact is that the battle between Sabo and Fujitora reached to a deadlock at Fujitora's request. That is a fact. But whatever the conditions maybe be is a speculation.

Sinking or all new lows for claiming you don't throw insults first.

1. incoherent
2.
You started it.

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You said that sabo holding back was stupid and I said thinking that he's not was stupid. The only difference is that I added more adjectives then you. That's when you started complaining about insults along with sarcastic remarks without taking into consideration that I just repeated what you did. So be sensitive if you may, but just know that you started it and I ended it is all.

I mean, insults from the get go and being an online warrior is what you're infamous for in the site. A lot more people think the same but here you are only focused on me cause I'm the one making you feel insecure in this topic.

Says the keyboard warrior calling what I said Sabo actually did of being "stupid."
Like I said. You started it troll, you shouldn't cry about it either.

All the self elevation, always saying you defeat every post directed at you and talk of your "intellect" is evident of this. Those are completely irrelevant here so....

More nonsense

 

[HashiraMadara]

Fujitora being superior to sabo in any kind of way is subjective. Also "subjective opinion" is redundant, just say opinion.

> Sabo is protecting his brother and fighting for Issho to not pass, using Hiken, deadly techs etc
> Issho is just stalling and fighting to not win the battle with mid diff techs(no raging tiger, no multiple meteors etc)
> Sabo finishes the stalling battle with minor bruises and breathing hard
> Issho has absolutely nothing

and you say we cannot draw conclusion that Issho is > Sabo from this battle? LOL This reminds me of Riker 2 years ago arguing that the clash between Sanji and Vergo had no significance in showing the difference in their strengths. I laughed f#cking hard

 

[Skull Knight]

> Sabo is protecting his brother and fighting for Issho to not pass, using Hiken, deadly techs etc
> Issho is just stalling and fighting to not win the battle with mid diff techs(no raging tiger, no multiple meteors etc)

Issho couldn't use those meteors because of the bird cage and even if he could what would those meteors do against a guy who has logia intangibility??? Same goes for raging tiger.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

> Sabo is protecting his brother and fighting for Issho to not pass, using Hiken, deadly techs etc
> Issho is just stalling and fighting to not win the battle with mid diff techs(no raging tiger, no multiple meteors etc)
> Sabo finishes the stalling battle with minor bruises and breathing hard
> Issho has absolutely nothing

and you say we cannot draw conclusion that Issho is > Sabo from this battle? LOL This reminds me of Riker 2 years ago arguing that the clash between Sanji and Vergo had no significance in showing the difference in their strengths. I laughed f#cking hard

That guy is such a typical keyboard warrior...I know ignoring facts and belittling others is his thing but damn......only so much can be said before it becomes pitiful....

 

[HashiraMadara]

Issho couldn't use those meteors because of the bird cage and even if he could what would those meteors do against a guy who has logia intangibility??? Same goes for raging tiger.

Meteors yeah but ragin tiger seems to have haki and Gravity but anyways those are examples.