Do people not understand the concept of bad match ups?

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I See Your Point But Hey Guess What?
Minato >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaara
Seriously Gaara Is No Match For Minato...He Doesn't Even Need FTG To Blitz Him...

Your profile pic combined with your statement tells me your a fanyboy....im cool with that, however, if your not backing your statements up with facts and logic it just makes you look stupid m
 

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Minato is way too fast for gaara!
 

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I completely agree. I seen people saying Minato could solo Gaara in the desert L0l wtf.
 

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I've been peeking thru a few vs threads, and it seems people dont understand what this means. Ninja A can be a top 10 ninja and overall better in almost every category, but ninja B may have a specific fighting style, skill or jutsu that completely counters ninja A.

Prime example:

Gaara vs Minato.

Im sorry Minato fans, but he loses this fight 10 out 10 times.

I definitely this Minato is more skilled, he has more exp, he probably has a more versatile arsenal and in my opinion, he's just better overall.

BUT....

Gaaras sand armor and flight is just too much for Minato.

Gaara can potentially counter EVERYTHING Minato can throw at him.

1. Gaara being able to fly instantly puts Minato at a huge disadvantage. To my knowledge, he has no ranged jutsu.

2. He throws FTG kunai, Gaara intercepts it can counters with sand shuriken.

3. If he does manage to get a rasengan on Gaara, sand armor/shield takes the brunt of damage.

4. If he places a seal on Gaara, Gaara can just drop his outer layer of sand armor skin.

5. Minato summons Boss toad, Gaara counters with sand drizzle or sand Tsunami.

Now....Gaara can potentially land a killing blow under this condition:

Minato has no FTG seals placed outside the battlefield. Now if Gaara uses sand tsunami and minato doesnt have a seal already placdd outside the battlefield, there is NO WAY he can throw a kunai that travels fast or far enough to outrun a ocean of sand that can completely turn a forest into a desert.


Thoughts?
I agree with the general point but Gaara is not a bad match up for Minato. You clearly neglected one aspect of Minato's arsenal. Summons give Minato long range jutsus and way to counter Gaara's pesy flight.
 

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I agree that there is such thing as bad matchups.

But........................Minato vs Gaara is not one of them. Boss toads like Gamabunta can spit oil which negates Gaara's control of sand. Although Gaara is severely underrated.

A better example would be Gaara vs Itachi. Itachi is the overall stronger shinobi but Gaara counters all of Itachi's techniques with relative ease.

I also think that Mu, Kisame, or Onoki could solo Itachi. And I think Deidara can beat Kabuto.
 

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I agree with the meaning of the thread.

But disagree with Minato vs Gaara.


Gaara's sand is just way too slow. Even Deidara on flight was able to dodge and counter.
 

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Your profile pic combined with your statement tells me your a fanyboy....im cool with that, however, if your not backing your statements up with facts and logic it just makes you look stupid m
Gaara Is way Too Slow To Keep Up With Minato...He Will Blitz & Kill Him No Diff Enough Said...
& You Know Who's Stupid Here? The One Who Says Gaara > Minato...Sorry Dude But This Is Just BS U_U
 
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I agree with the argument presented in this topic.

Match-ups play a very important role in shinobi battles.

I agree with the meaning of the thread.

But disagree with Minato vs Gaara.


Gaara's sand is just way too slow. Even Deidara on flight was able to dodge and counter.

Assuming Deidara's flight speed is slow?
 
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Gaara Is way Too Slow To Keep Up With Minato...He Will Blitz & Kill Him No Diff Enough Said...
& You Know Who's Stupid Here? The One Who Says Gaara > Minato...Sorry Dude But This Is Just BS U_U

What your not understanding is...in order to blitz him, he needs FTG...

He throws FTG kunai....

Gaara counters with sand shuriken.

He moves super fast dude not his Kunai. Any skilled ninja with a shuriken can intercept his Kunai.

Minato has nothing....I mean NOTHING is his arsenal besides RDS that can effectively take gaara down quickly. He can tank a good bit of the base rasengan minato uses. You need a piercing attack to effectively counter sand armor/shield.
 

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What your not understanding is...in order to blitz him, he needs FTG...

He throws FTG kunai....

Gaara counters with sand shuriken.

He moves super fast dude not his Kunai. Any skilled ninja with a shuriken can intercept his Kunai.

Minato has nothing....I mean NOTHING is his arsenal besides RDS that can effectively take gaara down quickly. He can tank a good bit of the base rasengan minato uses. You need a piercing attack to effectively counter sand armor/shield.
Did You Ever Heard Of Shunshin? He Will Blitz Gaara With No Diff Plus Minato's Rasengan Will Destroy Gaara's Absolute Defense Along With Him...
 

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Lol....a base rasengan isn't destroying gaara bro.
When Minato Slammed His Rasengan On Obito's Back Did You See It's Effect On The Ground? Minato's Rasengan Is A Fatal Blow...If Obito Didn't Had Hashi's Cell Plus The Spiral Zetsu As A Shield He Would Have Died...So Minato's Rasengan Will Kill Gaara With No Doubt...
 
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When Minato Slammed His Rasengan On Obito's Back Did You See It's Effect On The Ground? Minato's Rasengan Is A Fatal Blow...If Obito Didn't Had Hish's Cell Plus The Spiral Zetsu As A Shield He Would Have Died...So Minato's Rasengan Will Kill Gaara With No Doubt...

Yeah...and a bunch of explosive spiders blew up inside Gaaras sand shield and he was still up. At point blank range might I add.

Dont compare obitos defenses to Gaaras son.
 

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When Minato Slammed His Rasengan On Obito's Back Did You See It's Effect On The Ground? Minato's Rasengan Is A Fatal Blow...If Obito Didn't Had Hish's Cell Plus The Spiral Zetsu As A Shield He Would Have Died...So Minato's Rasengan Will Kill Gaara With No Doubt...

Forgot to mention obito survived.
 

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I disagree. I'm pretty sure Gaara's sand can't keep up with Minato.
Furthermore, he also has Bunta in his arsenal, whose oil may or may not hinder Gaara's sand (imo it would work just as well as the Mizukage's oily water given their similar effect).
 

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I disagree. I'm pretty sure Gaara's sand can't keep up with Minato.
Furthermore, he also has Bunta in his arsenal, whose oil may or may not hinder Gaara's sand (imo it would work just as well as the Mizukage's oily water given their similar effect).

No way he can make enough oil to cover a desert.

This was Pre timeskip gaara who made this desert...not current. So just imagine what he can do now.

Even if oil gets in his sand, he can make more fresh sand.

Bunta gets owned by sand Tsunami or sand drizzle.
 

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No way he can make enough oil to cover a desert.

This was Pre timeskip gaara who made this desert...not current. So just imagine what he can do now.

Even if oil gets in his sand, he can make more fresh sand.

Bunta gets owned by sand Tsunami or sand drizzle.

The Mizukage had access to much less oil than Bunta can spit, yet Gaara was crippled all the time.

Apparently making a desert out of nowhere is no good or he isn't able to do one when his sand his mixed with oil.

Make more sand in the midst of a combat against a speedster and while his sand is crippled? That wouldn't be a good idea.

If Gaara goes for Bunta, Minato goes for him and its game over. This is also assuming he has enough sand already to overwhelm Bunta before the later is able to spit is oil.
 
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