Do not underestimate MS Izuna

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MS Izuna is strong. Just because he lost to the 2nd strongest Senju, does not mean he is weak. Tobirama has outstanding Suiton, has FTG, and many other techs. It is only natural that this happened. Izuna might not have had his MS active during this fight. I am not saying Izuna > Tobirama (because I am a Tobirama fanboy), but quit under-estimating him. He is probably in the top 3 Uchiha of all time.
 

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He doesn't have ftg
 

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Top 3 Uchiha:
Madara
Obito
Itachi/EMS Sasuke

Anyway, yeah, Izuna was most likely a beast and capable of beating everyone in the entire world at that time except for Madara, Kakuzu, Tobirama, and Hashirama.
 

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Believe me: I waited two years for his background story... with or without MS. Izuna got fodderized. How many panels??? And gone...!
 

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Not top 3 I guess. Top 5 for sure though. He could have beat Kakazu at the time. Kakazu did not have earth grudge fear.
 

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Indeed, the manga did not give him justice. Tobirama does not have FTG whatsoever, that was technique developed by Minato. Tobirama may have a lesser technique, but not quite in the margin of what Minato can do.
 

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he is basically the same strength as madara manga fact he most likely lost because of plot
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How do you know that? I'm not giving attitude. I'm geniunely asking.

Madara MS was the strongest Uchiha at the time. It was said MS Izuna = MS Madara. MS Izuna is right at Itachi I believe

1.) Madara
2.) Obito (forgot about him lol)
3.) Sasuke EMS
4.) Izuna/Itachi
5.) Izuna/Itachi

But it is just my opinion. Opinions are like buttcracks, everyones got'em.
 

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I don't get it

Where was Izuna's power?
 

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MS Izuna is strong. Just because he lost to the 2nd strongest Senju, does not mean he is weak. Tobirama has outstanding Suiton, has FTG, and many other techs. It is only natural that this happened. Izuna might not have had his MS active during this fight. I am not saying Izuna > Tobirama (because I am a Tobirama fanboy), but quit under-estimating him. He is probably in the top 3 Uchiha of all time.

1.madara
2.obito
3.shishui
4.sasuke/itachi
5.itachi/sasuke
6.izuna

not even top 5
 

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Madara MS was the strongest Uchiha at the time. It was said MS Izuna = MS Madara. MS Izuna is right at Itachi I believe

1.) Madara
2.) Obito (forgot about him lol)
3.) Sasuke EMS
4.) Izuna/Itachi
5.) Izuna/Itachi

But it is just my opinion. Opinions are like buttcracks, everyones got'em.

I was asking about the Kakuzu thing..
 

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I was asking about the Kakuzu thing..

Ooooo lol. My bad. 3rd Databook Pages 56-59. He got Earth Grudge Fear after he tried to assassinate 1st hokage. Village elders were upset with him, so he learned a forbidden tech, which is earth grudge fear.
 

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He got trolled infact the entire clan got trolled

In his fathers era the clans were equals all of a sudden they got overwhelmed

The fact inazagi wasn't used or the fact the additional senju have not shown anything is troll core
 

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He could have beat Kakazu at the time. Kakazu did not have earth grudge fear.
all we know is he was sent to take down hashirama. when he got earth grudge fear is largely unknown since hashi was senju leader for a long time
In his fathers era the clans were equals
no one stated this
It was said MS Izuna = MS Madara.
just because someone says it doesnt make it true. especially since itachi said it and itachi doesnt know anything about that time period. not a single thing. its obvious he was also manipulating the facts to warp sasuke
 

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he is basically the same strength as madara manga fact
how is it manga fact? izuna couldnt believe it when madara said someone existed stronger than him. so izuna < madara according to izuna HIMSELF. itachi doesnt know shit about shit so how is what he says manga fact?
 
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