Do not give up hope on Bernie Sanders.

[Lightbringer]

I know a lot of people have heard how it's over for Bernie Sanders and that's it already a clear cut win for Clinton, but it's simply not true. It's a media tactic in order to dismay voters from voting for Bernie.

Here's the thing; less than half of the states in the U.S. has voted and Hillary only won the southern states, which voted first. These southern states are more conservative than anything else.

The liberal states have yet to vote and the trend so far is that they almost unanimously favor Sanders. Even representative Alan Grayson affirms this in saying that there are essentially two parts to the race and that Hillary was only favorable in the more conservative of states.

[video=youtube;MGdHrUs9JVo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGdHrUs9JVo[/video]

 

[Wparker6804]

I wasn't able to vote a few weeks back due to personal reasons/affairs (old enough to do so though) but I planned on voting for Cruz in the hopes that he'd beat Trump (look at me now, eh?) but I hate the fact that someone can only sign up for one party. I hate picking sides in a crappy fight. But if it is Sanders Vs Trump (thanks Rubio...) I'd vote sanders. Trump vs Clinton I'm voting 3rd party.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

I never bothered to vote but I want Bernie to be President.

 

[Lightbringer]

I never bothered to vote but I want Bernie to be President.

Well you should. Each vote counts and this is a very crucial election, possibly the most important of our lives.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper">Feel the bern. Hotter than amaterasu :Sparks:</div>

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Well you should. Each vote counts and this is a very crucial election, possibly the most important of our lives.

I thought the Electoral College vote is what really matters.

 

[Hawker]

this thread will surely awaken the wrath of slimreaper lol

 

[CrimsonReaper]

i hope with all my heart he wins but i don't think it will be the case. :(

 

[Lightbringer]

this thread will surely awaken the wrath of slimreaper lol

I put my tin foil hat on each time to block out the waves stupidity. lol

I thought the Electoral College vote is what really matters.

Not exactly. Their vote is essentially represented by the states popular vote. They are voted in by the people.

The super delegates are also based on popular vote. They may be currently pledged to Hillary will support Bernie Sanders if the popular vote is greater on his side. So make sure to vote!

It's really all confusing honestly, but it's still very important that you vote.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Their vote is dependent on the popular vote. The super delegates currently pledged to Hillary will support Bernie Sanders if the popular vote is greater on his side. So make sure to vote!

Well I live in Florida. I think they've already done that state lol

 

[UltraPain]

No matter how grim it may get for Sanders, when he gets to California he's still got my vote.

i hope with all my heart he wins but i don't think it will be the case. :(

Win or lose, vote anyways and send that message.

 

[Lightbringer]

No matter how grim it may get for Sanders, when he gets to California he's still got my vote.



Win of lose, vote anyways and send that message.

Precisely! The only reason he'd lose is because of poor voter turnout.

So even if it looks unfavorable, you still have to vote because each single vote adds up.

This is exactly what the media wants; to make people think it's over and not vote!

 

[Yubel]

Whoever gets elected won't make the slightest difference. The same people still run things, corporations will always be the same and whoever wins will have to follow a set of rules unless they want to get assassinated. Even if you had someone like Ron Paul become president you'd see a major difference between his promises and his actions. Only a fool thinks his or her vote will make an ounce of difference in the grand scheme of things. It won't happen unless it's in the interest of the few who run things behind the scenes.


Law 31
Control the Options: Get Others to Play with the Cards you Deal
The best deceptions are the ones that seem to give the other person a choice: Your victims feel they are in control, but are actually your puppets. Give people options that come out in your favor whichever one they choose. Force them to make choices between the lesser of two evils, both of which serve your purpose. Put them on the horns of a dilemma: They are gored

 

[Lightbringer]

Whoever gets elected won't make the slightest difference. The same people still run things, corporations will always be the same and whoever wins will have to follow a set of rules unless they want to get assassinated. Even if you had someone like Ron Paul become president you'd see a major difference between his promises and his actions.


Law 31
Control the Options: Get Others to Play with the Cards you Deal
The best deceptions are the ones that seem to give the other person a choice: Your victims feel they are in control, but are actually your puppets. Give people options that come out in your favor whichever one they choose. Force them to make choices between the lesser of two evils, both of which serve your purpose. Put them on the horns of a dilemma: They are gored

So we should just give up and accept the way things are? That's exactly why we're in this position.

Things change, and even the most invincible empires fall. Now is the time for that change.

That's exactly why Bernie Sanders talks about having a political revolution and creating a movement. If he's president and the people are on his side giving voice against the corruption of the government, then yes, things will change.

We are in a period where many representatives are able to be replaced. So the old corrupt individuals can be voted out for people who actually care about this country.

It's better than doing nothing.

 

[Yubel]

So we should just give up and accept the way things are? That's exactly why we're in this position.

Things change, and even the most invincible empires fall. Now is the time for that change.

That's exactly why Bernie Sanders talks about having a political revolution and creating a movement. If he's president and the people are on his side giving voice against the corruption of the government, then yes, things will change.

We are in a period where many representatives are able to be replaced. So the old corrupt individuals can be voted out for people who actually care about this country.

It's better than doing nothing.

There is nothing Bernie Sanders or anyone can do, the problem has always been putting one person or a minority to run things. Besides, politicians are ****ing useless, they give no value to society, all they know is wordplay and manipulation, they're incompetent in any other way. We need to educate people and increase awareness. That's the only way to combat this system.

 

[Lightbringer]

There is nothing Bernie Sanders or anyone can do, the problem has always been putting one person or a minority to run things. Besides, politicians are ****ing useless, they give no value to society, all they know is wordplay and manipulation, they're incompetent in any other way. We need to educate people and increase awareness. That's the only way to combat this system.

That last part is pretty much what I just said. Bernie Sanders is educating people and trying to form a movement to combat the system. He and his supporters are spreading awareness as best they could and it's resonating.

The people who run the government can be voted out and we live in a time where a great majority of the corruption can be weeded out through voting. All of those deals with corporations are done via politicians. If you replace them with better people, then new policies will be made to fix those problems.

There are policies that have existed before in the U.S. which would help the middle class and keep the corporations from gaining too much power. Bernie Sanders wants to bring those policies back. And if you vote in the representatives, then he'd have an easier time to get them to pass.

Thinking that there is some sort of invincible entity that can't be defeated via legal means is absurd. It's been done before and now is no different.

 

[Excite]

That last part is pretty much what I just said. Bernie Sanders is educating people and trying to form a movement to combat the system. He and his supporters are spreading awareness as best they could and it's resonating.

The people who run the government can be voted out and we live in a time where a great majority of the corruption can be weeded out through voting. All of those deals with corporations are done via politicians. If you replace them with better people, then new policies will be made to fix those problems.

There are policies that have existed before in the U.S. which would help the middle class and keep the corporations from gaining too much power. Bernie Sanders wants to bring those policies back. And if you vote in the representatives, then he'd have an easier time to get them to pass.

Thinking that there is some sort of invincible entity that can't be defeated via legal means is absurd. It's been done before and now is no different.

I believe Bernie Sanders has some good intentions but even if he did make it into office most Republicans & Democrats would veto his bills on-site, in order to combat the corrupt system you would need to support local business and start building local establishments. Giant corporations mostly support CEO's and Chairmen when profits are below the margin of what they've predicted layoffs are soon to follow, just so they can save a couple of millions and deprive the working class who are trying to support their families. The main problem is that we've been been depending on these politicians and government for to long, It's like an abusive relationship they'll just keep keep doing it until you stop supporting them.

 

[Lightbringer]

I believe Bernie Sanders has some good intentions but even if he did make it into office most Republicans & Democrats would veto his bills on-site, in order to combat the corrupt system you would need to support local business and start building local establishments. Giant corporations mostly support CEO's and Chairmen when profits are below the margin of what they've predicted layoffs are soon to follow, just so they can save a couple of millions and deprive the working class who are trying to support their families. The main problem is that we've been been depending on these politicians and government for to long, It's like an abusive relationship they'll just keep keep doing it until you stop supporting them.

Like I keep saying and for some reason people are ignoring my statement; Bernie Sanders is trying to get a movement started. Just like any movement, the people's voice is what runs this country.

Movements are what stopped the Jim Crow laws, granted women's rights, allowed gay marriage, etc.

If the people have are unified and have a voice, they can get the bills to pass. And like I said before, the power of voting is vastly underestimated. Vote in the right people and there will much greater consensus within the government to allow Bernie to pass his bills.

 

[Excite]

Like I keep saying and for some reason people are ignoring my statement; Bernie Sanders is trying to get a movement started. Just like any movement, the people's voice is what runs this country.

Movements are what stopped the Jim Crow laws, granted women's rights, allowed gay marriage, etc.

If the people have are unified and have a voice, they can get the bills to pass. And like I said before, the power of voting is vastly underestimated. Vote in the right people and there will much greater consensus within the government to allow Bernie to pass his bills.

I didn't mean it like that i'm not saying protesting doesn't work,you'll just get better results in hurting the wealth of the corporations and politics they have more to lose than the hardworking middle and lower class. They'll be losing large portion of wealth,fancy luxury cars,luxury mansion homes, paid vacations, etc after witnessing the failure of multiple occupy movements i lost faith in protesting honestly.

 

[Lightbringer]

I didn't mean it like that i'm not saying protesting doesn't work,you'll just get better results in hurting the wealth of the corporations and politics they have more to lose than the hardworking middle and lower class. They'll be losing large portion of wealth,fancy luxury cars,luxury mansion homes, paid vacations, etc after witnessing the failure of multiple occupy movements i lost faith in protesting honestly.

Well it doesn't work all of the time, but when the movement is big enough then it does. Just look at how much we accomplished with protesting.

And the movement Bernie Sanders is proposing will be backed up by powerful figures in the government and the president if Bernie is elected.

And like I keep saying time and time again. If you vote in the right people, then there will be greater consensus in the government. The corrupt individuals can be replaced and this time we are living in today is the period where a majority of those individuals have their terms coming to an end and will face competition for the role. So if you vote for the proper individuals, then it will be a big step in refining the system.