Do Naruto's Gudou Dama Rasenshurikens have the same properties as a Gudou Dama?

[Deadmed]

I mean why wouldn't it? Isn't it a Gudou Dama with rasen wind chakra added? Wouldn't it be similar to when Obito or Madara shoots one, it explodes, collapses on itself becoming a black orb again, then returns to the user?

Hmmm, if I could rewrite a scene, I'd rewrite the scene where Naruto and Sasuke's ultimate attacks clash. A simple old lightning arrow is boring. Sasuke notices Naruto infusing his Gudou Dama's into his attack, noting that it would cancel out his ninjutsu. To counter this, Sasuke uses his Rinnegan's ability to use all chakra natures and turns his Indra's arrow into a rainbow arrow of all chakra natures. It looks the same, but now it's glowing multicolored. He launches the Ultimate Rinne Rainbow Arrow and it collides with Naruto's attacks, esplosion.

 

[Gerkak]

Yes they do.

 

[Xlad]

I assume it becomes the same like a TBB.

 

[Deadmed]

Yes they do.

So why wasn't Sasuke's Indra's Arrow cancelled out, after all it only had lightning nature?

 

[Deadmed]

I assume it becomes the same like a TBB.

But a tailed beast ball has nothing to do with Gudou Damas, also its quite clearly much more powerful, given Naruto uses it as his ultimate attack.

 

[Gerkak]

So why wasn't Sasuke's Indra's Arrow cancelled out, after all it only had lightning nature?

Because naruto used bijuu dama to form the rasenshuriken not his TSB.

 

[Xlad]

Oh, you're talking about TBBRS cancelling out Ninjutsu? No, it doesn't work like that.
Onmyoudon=/=Truth Seeker

TBBRS does not cancel out Ninjutsu since Naruto already applies a separate technique, using his TSB as a medium.

 

[Deadmed]

Oh, you're talking about TBBRS cancelling out Ninjutsu? No, it doesn't work like that.
Onmyoudon=/=Truth Seeker

TBBRS does not cancel out Ninjutsu since Naruto already applies a separate technique, using his TSB as a medium.

He uses his Gudou Damas to create what you call "TBBRS". I'm talking about what he used against Madara's meteors and Sasuke's Indra's Arrow.

 

[Xlad]

He uses his Gudou Damas to create what you call "TBBRS". I'm talking about what he used against Madara's meteors and Sasuke's Indra's Arrow.

I just gone retarded. Zzz Yes, after he used TBBRS against Madara,

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No, he did not use TSB to create Final Dual TBBRS. I forgot that they do have the same properties as TSB in their base form.

 

[iNotorious]

He uses his Gudou Damas to create what you call "TBBRS". I'm talking about what he used against Madara's meteors and Sasuke's Indra's Arrow.

Yeah but he explained why, he didn't use them as TBB, he used them to make a new form of FFS, therefore, decomposing it.

 

[Xlad]

Yeah but he explained why, he didn't use them as TBB, he used them to make a new form of FFS, therefore, decomposing it.

Nah, I wasn't reading it correctly.

 

[Deadmed]

Ok I'm still a bit confused. So wait does he need to use them to create the elemental TBB Rasenshurikens he used against Kaguya? Did he even have 9 TSBs at that time? And if that's the case, he must get them back after using them. And what do you mean he didn't use them against Sasuke's Indra's Arrow? Did he only use them in the black one or both? Or none?...

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[Chaosmark101]

No he doesn't need TSB to perform Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken. No idea whether or not he used one for Kurama's but just like the Lava rasenshuriken, he didn't need TSB for the other bijuu kkg rasenshuriken.

 

[Xlad]

Ok I'm still a bit confused. So wait does he need to use them to create the elemental TBB Rasenshurikens he used against Kaguya? Did he even have 9 TSBs at that time? And if that's the case, he must get them back after using them. And what do you mean he didn't use them against Sasuke's Indra's Arrow? Did he only use them in the black one or both? Or none?...

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No, he doesn't need them. He used them because they were faster than having to create TBBs themselves.

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[Deadmed]

No he doesn't need them. He used them because they were faster than having to create TBBs themselves.

he specifically said this? Because from my knowledge TSBs are a completely different material than Bijuu Bombs. It didn't seem to take him very long to prepare that 9 element attack on Kaguya, and someone told me he used his remaining 3 TSBs in his last attack on Sasuke. And are the names of the attacks in that video correct?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

No he doesn't need TSB to perform Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken. No idea whether or not he used one for Kurama's but just like the Lava rasenshuriken, he didn't need TSB for the other bijuu kkg rasenshuriken.

IIRC Naruto did use a TSB for Kurama's TBFRS since one of the orbs hovered over his hand.

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[Deadmed]

No, he doesn't need them. He used them because they were faster than having to create TBBs themselves.

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I might not have shown it, but according to the video I posted and someone on another forum, he used the last 3 of his TSBs (the same ones used to counter Sasuke's Susanoo Arrows) in order to create the black one.

 

[Chaosmark101]

IIRC Naruto did use a TSB for Kurama's TBFRS since one of the orbs hovered over his hand.

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I meant in the super tailed beast rasenshuriken scan or the ashura avatar vs bijuu PS scans. Idk if I can link since I'm on Mobile.

 

[Deadmed]

Apparently the black Rasenshuriken used against Sasuke is composed of the 3 remaining TSB, and the yellow one is a Kurama infused rasenshuriken

 

[Deadmed]

So what I'm getting at, is when he uses the Gudou Dama to create a super powerful Rasenshuriken capable of even greater destruction than a normal TBB, he's trading the Ninjutsu canceling properties of the Gudou Dama in favor of increased energy output? Like a chakra battery?