When Guy fights Kakashi does he not use the gates? Same with Lee, he talks abouts how he never beat Neji, does that mean he tried his best (no weights and 5 gates) to try and fight Neji? I understand that both Kakashi and Neji are great ninjas and are both prodigies/geniuses but the gates are very overwhelming for any ninja to handle alone, even with a sharingan or byakugan. I find hard to believe these guys always lose to their rivals.