Do/Did People Really Think Minato's FTG is different than Tobirama's FTG?!?

[Jobrjo]

I find it shocking that people ACTUALLY thought that Minato's was better than Tobirama's.

Flying Thunder God is a special jutsu. Unlike most other jutsu, there isn't a better version- FTG is FTG. Rather what makes one a better user of it is just that- a better user. At the end of the day the jutsu is the exact same thing: the ability to place a mark. If Tobirama can put the mark on a person, he can put it on any other solid object (weapon, ground, etc). It doesn't take some special power to touch steel vs cloth.

This "FTG v2" is a nonexistent myth. The jutsu itself is a seal not a pat of the hand! What Minato did by creating a teleporting barrier, marking numerous kunai and using it simultaneously, etc. is the exact same jutsu as Tobirama marking his kunai, sword, enemy, or anything else. The jutsu is nothing more than a teleporting seal that can be placed on any solid. If you know FTG you can do that with any solid.

The only thing that set Minato above Tobirama in regards to FTG was his proficiency in using the same jutsu. FTG is not like Rasegan, etc. where there are better version of it. Rather, FTG is literally the same jutsu.

I can't believe people actually thought "FTG v2" was a special type that let you put it on steel :/

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2 unrelated points in regards to possibly feasible FTG upgrades in usage.
1. Flying Thunder God + Shuriken Shadow Clone Jutsu = literally marking the entire battlefield with 1 kunai, allowing you with relative ease to teleport where you desired.
2. Flying Thunder God [actual] v2 - allowing it to be cast on and from liquids. Would make Water users who happen to know FTG (coughtobiramacough) amazingly deadly. Swamp the field with water -> teleport to any object (or person) with you're chakra infused water on them by instantly casting a seal there.
okay that's all discuss

 

[Sir Blades]

They are the same, the only difference is the seal formations and the special kunais that are unique to minato.
The rest is up to the users imagination on how to use the technique.

 

[itachi4real]

They are the same, the only difference is the seal formations and the special kunais that are unique to minato.
The rest is up to the users imagination on how to use the technique.

This......

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

V2 is teleporting to something that is moving and is not stationary. Hope that helps

 

[Hipster Madara]

They are about the same

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

FTG isn't different....they're reflexes, reaction time, and footspeed is what make Minato superior:

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[Joon]

Same technique, but with Minato's exploits and combine, natural speed and reflexes, changes it's usage.

 

[Prince Charles]

Both their ftg is the same shit I hate when people try to be technical and try to point small details regarding Minato's and tobirama's ftg, its all the same damn thing. Although there are different variants such as s/t barrier.

 

[Punk Hazard]

V2 is teleporting to something that is moving and is not stationary. Hope that helps

I think that's watering it down. Tobirama should be able to teleport to something that is moving as well. FTG V2 involves not only teleporting to something that is moving, but also having the reflexes and body speed to react to and counter or capitalize on its movements. We haven't seen Tobirama doing the same, but we know Minato can do it. This, along with creating the Space-Time Barrier technique which Tobirama doesn't have, is why Minato is better at using FTG.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

I find it shocking that people ACTUALLY thought that Minato's was better than Tobirama's.

Flying Thunder God is a special jutsu. Unlike most other jutsu, there isn't a better version- FTG is FTG. Rather what makes one a better user of it is just that- a better user. At the end of the day the jutsu is the exact same thing: the ability to place a mark. If Tobirama can put the mark on a person, he can put it on any other solid object (weapon, ground, etc). It doesn't take some special power to touch steel vs cloth.

This "FTG v2" is a nonexistent myth. The jutsu itself is a seal not a pat of the hand! What Minato did by creating a teleporting barrier, marking numerous kunai and using it simultaneously, etc. is the exact same jutsu as Tobirama marking his kunai, sword, enemy, or anything else. The jutsu is nothing more than a teleporting seal that can be placed on any solid. If you know FTG you can do that with any solid.

The only thing that set Minato above Tobirama in regards to FTG was his proficiency in using the same jutsu. FTG is not like Rasegan, etc. where there are better version of it. Rather, FTG is literally the same jutsu.

I can't believe people actually thought "FTG v2" was a special type that let you put it on steel :/

Spoiler

2 unrelated points in regards to possibly feasible FTG upgrades in usage.
1. Flying Thunder God + Shuriken Shadow Clone Jutsu = literally marking the entire battlefield with 1 kunai, allowing you with relative ease to teleport where you desired.
2. Flying Thunder God [actual] v2 - allowing it to be cast on and from liquids. Would make Water users who happen to know FTG (coughtobiramacough) amazingly deadly. Swamp the field with water -> teleport to any object (or person) with you're chakra infused water on them by instantly casting a seal there.
okay that's all discuss

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[-Punk-]

Minato uses FTG better .

 

[Penguin]

When Tobirama says Minato is better at teleporting, that means he can teleport more people and does not infer any speed loss. ._.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I think that's watering it down. Tobirama should be able to teleport to something that is moving as well. FTG V2 involves not only teleporting to something that is moving, but also having the reflexes and body speed to react to and counter or capitalize on its movements. We haven't seen Tobirama doing the same, but we know Minato can do it. This, along with creating the Space-Time Barrier technique which Tobirama doesn't have, is why Minato is better at using FTG.

I guess it is but everyone should already know you need to have great reflexes and body speed to use ftg or at least I thought people would know. Also I know tobirama has not shown that but does it mean he cannot? Short answer no he has great reaction feats more than enough to utilise ftg v2. He already showed that he can use ftg with kunai, all he had to do was throw it and teleport to it for it to be same as minatos but he did teleport to it and the kunai was moving although not quickly it was knocked into the air.

 

[copilot1307]

I can't seem to find it, but there was a pretty good theory a while back about the differences between Minato and Tobirama's FTG. From what I can remember, a detailed analysis showed that Tobirama requires physical contact to place a seal to teleport to (in all cases this has been observed) while Minato is the only one able to use FTG via whatever his chakra is in contact with (without necessarily placing a seal or needing physical contact).

 

[To Whatever]

Even if what you're saying is true, That shit wouldn't of happened to an alive Minato or a Edo Minato.

 

[Derek1st]

Minato is known for using it in quick succession.

 

[OWanime]

same jutsu but minato uses it more efficiently and I think if it was minato fighting madara he would have at least scratched madara b4 being soloed xd

 

[End of Days]

The difference between them is the difference between third raikage and Ay

I hope there isnt anybody here that thinks that there is no difference between third raikage and his son

Raiton no yoroi and ftg both are used for speed, just like there is v1 Ay and v2 Ay (fanmade terms)

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there are different levels or stages whatever you prefer

Hiraishin stage/level 2

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Hiraishin stage/level 3

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dont try to measure speed lol, its impossible to try and tell which characters are faster on your own just by looking at panels, you have to go by character statements

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And going by both tobirama's and hiruzen's statements minato is better, he is better because he is faster

All jutsus have been improved upon, I don't know why it so hard for people to accept it