do Byakugan has teh best insight Ability??????...

[Kakooli]

The byakugan is better at different things than the sharingan. The byakugan is better overall because of its utility. While the sharingan is better for combat it’s not by much. The sharingan is not as common as the byakugan either. Im pretty sure most Hyuga unlock byakugan but less than half of the Uchiha unlock sharingan. Even less unlock MS and its the MS abilities that separate the two dojutsu. The sharingan is obviously better in the rare instance that its MS vs byakugan. But three tomoe only gets a very slight edge because of the enhanced reflexes and genjutsu buff. But it really boils down to skill more than anything. So the X-ray, long distance, and 360 vision wins because it applicable to more than just combat. The higher level byakugan users have displayed psychic abilities. This is probably why Kakashi says it has superior insight.

strongest hiyuga byakugan= jonin

strongest uchiwa achievement= solo'd entire nv instantly...

 

[Greatness23]

That makes no sense given what the word insight means.

the capacity to gain an accurate and deep intuitive understanding of a person or thing.


We aren’t discussing genjutsu or anything like that. Overall Byakugan and Rinnegan has better insight.


Unless you’re saying Sharingan can perceive Limbo, Fates or whether time is being manipulated.


The offensive capability of Sharingan far outweighs the Byakugan if the users are equally skilled in their respective dojutsu.

But that’s not being discussed. It’s insight nothing more and nothing less.

Obviously your second to last sentence is what I meant. ANd the definition of insight doesn't apply here, regardless if that's what was used because we KNOW that in part 1 the only thing that byakugan (ohh, and part 2) did was see over great distances and the chakra network. It didn't give the user any ability to better understand a person, outside of the chakra network anyway and even there the only thing that makes that useful is their specific niche for attacking these chakra points. Ao has a byakugan and other than seeing over a wide area it is just an ok dojutsu. Byakugan cant perceive limbo (I assume you mean Madara in this case) either, so that was irrelevant.

 

[Greatness23]

The byakugan is better at different things than the sharingan. The byakugan is better overall because of its utility. While the sharingan is better for combat it’s not by much. The sharingan is not as common as the byakugan either. Im pretty sure most Hyuga unlock byakugan but less than half of the Uchiha unlock sharingan. Even less unlock MS and its the MS abilities that separate the two dojutsu. The sharingan is obviously better in the rare instance that its MS vs byakugan. But three tomoe only gets a very slight edge because of the enhanced reflexes and genjutsu buff. But it really boils down to skill more than anything. So the X-ray, long distance, and 360 vision wins because it applicable to more than just combat. The higher level byakugan users have displayed psychic abilities. This is probably why Kakashi says it has superior insight.

One ms user solos the globe. Itachi is proof enough of an Uchiha havng no equal. Shattering even the strongest jonins minds in a second. And just cause they can see more doesn't mean they can do more, Lee soloed sauce with regular eyes and sasuke had them reds, js.

 

[To Whatever]

Obviously your second to last sentence is what I meant. ANd the definition of insight doesn't apply here, regardless if that's what was used because we KNOW that in part 1 the only thing that byakugan (ohh, and part 2) did was see over great distances and the chakra network. It didn't give the user any ability to better understand a person, outside of the chakra network anyway and even there the only thing that makes that useful is their specific niche for attacking these chakra points. Ao has a byakugan and other than seeing over a wide area it is just an ok dojutsu. Byakugan cant perceive limbo (I assume you mean Madara in this case) either, so that was irrelevant.

If the definition of insight doesn’t apply here then why would the OP and you use it. Or even say, “in terms of”, then disregard it?

Seeing ones chakra system and being able to see their skeletal structures via x-ray over long distances does give you a better understanding of not only a person but of other things. How does that not?

Why would you even x-ray in real life or use zooming features if it didn’t give you a better understanding? What you’re saying is illogical.

I didn’t say Byakugan could perceive Limbo. I said Sharingan cannot perceive things that rinnegan and Byakugan can such as Limbo(anyone who reads the manga would obviously know I’m referring to rinnegan), time manipulation and fates.

You’re bringing up part 1 and 2 when that’s not what going on now. Are you going to continue living in the past or are you going to acknowledge the new feats rinnegan and Byakugan attained in this new part 3?

Please let me know, because if you’re going to continue to mention combat when no one is arguing that. Byakugan is used by outer worldly beings and humans who are their descendants.

As of now, the only one who canonically has a different Byakugan is Kaguya.

Boruto, his mother and his aunt are different but it’s not specified other than them being connected to hamura in some form.

 

[Glad Of War]

Byakugan can fates and perceive time manipulation.

In terms of insight, Byakugan and Rinnegan are above Sharingan.

Sasuke could see Limbo clones and Momoshiki.

Boruto’s dojutsu is derivative of Byakugan that allows him to see things that haven’t been seen in the series so far.

Momoshiki can see people’s fates.




I’d like to have a discussion but the posts above me sounds like a wank fest.

At BOLD, Lmaowut?
When did that happen?

 

[123fire]

Bayakugan is fodder that' s why the jougan exists

 

[The Necromancer]

Lord Maddy has best insight of course. Not even Byakugan or any other Sharingan can recognise clone from original.

So what you're saying is that an individual's use of abilities has no bearing on the scope of the abilities themselves, right?

 

[Jiren]

How many awesome powerful characters use the sharingan


Obito
Sasuke
Madara
Itachi
Shisui
Kakashi (who is not even the original owner)


How many powerful characters use the byakugan
Kaguya
Neji
Hiashi
Ao??

Its not even a competition. Sharingan solo

 

[Reviewing Logic]

How many awesome powerful characters use the sharingan


Obito
Sasuke
Madara
Itachi
Shisui
Kakashi (who is not even the original owner)


How many powerful characters use the byakugan
Kaguya
Neji
Hiashi
Ao??

Its not even a competition. Sharingan solo

you forgot Momoshiki, Kenshiki, Toneri and Hamura


but literally it is comparing less then 100 chapters in content to 700 chapters in content

 

[The Necromancer]

you forgot Momoshiki, Kenshiki, Toneri and Hamura


but literally it is comparing less then 100 chapters in content to 700 chapters in content

It's not even the Byakugan that gives Ootsutsuki power anyway, it's their massive chakra pools.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

It's not even the Byakugan that gives Ootsutsuki power anyway, it's their massive chakra pools.

never said it was but they did use their byakugans

byakugan is mostly just an aide eye to assist your move set

doesn't become really OFFENSIVE until it upgrades to a tensiegan

 

[The Necromancer]

never said it was but they did use their byakugans

byakugan is mostly just an aide eye to assist your move set

doesn't become really OFFENSIVE until it upgrades to a tensiegan

I agree, I'm just saying that they shouldn't even be included in the Byakugan Powerhouse category since without it they do the same exact shit anyway.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

I agree, I'm just saying that they shouldn't even be included in the Byakugan Powerhouse category since without it they do the same exact shit anyway.

Well Hamura is unknown and his main thing was making his byakugan eye into the tenseigan.

So who knows how much he utilizes it but again the eye is more of a receiver of information, it is up to the user on how they use it.

Even the Gentle Fist that comes from Kaguya then later Hamura is just them finding a way to use the info they received from the byakugan with their other body KKG of chakra expulsion.

Although the byakugan just gives you raw data, because of that raw data you build up a move set that best suits you.

So even though the Uchiha or whatever are reliant on offensive Sharringan abilities, the byakugan users listed still require their byakugans to do about their business as like me and you go about our days using our eyes.

Also it seems that you can have certain unique byakugan traits per individual, or at least so far for Otsutsukis.

Tenseigan is like the Sharingan family tree as in it now adds offensive abilities to it. Who knows what the Jougan does but beyond that and the byakugan family tree as a whole there isn't a ton of info we can work with since it barely had any screen time in the previous series.

I mean what the heck was happening here?

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Not only do those eyes have intent and will (they started talking to Toneri) but they also started absorbing sunlight as a power source.


Those particular byakugans are from Hamura's other family the Moon Otstsuki. We learnt that even though that clan has the byakugan they can only gain the Tenseigan by acquiring the other families byakugans (Hyuga).


Like Rinnegan needing Ashura lineage genes and Indra eyes.


Too many holes, and too many stuff not covered that SP and Kodachi and freely fill as they please.

 

[itachi4real]

5 star thread as always Minamoto san.

OT: no it doesn't Madara Sama's Sharingan insight lets him distinguish between the real and fake clones. Something not even Kaguya's Ostutsuki kekkei mora Byakugan let her do.

Sasukes does too...only ems users can can tell the difference between the real and fake

 

[itachi4real]

Lord Maddy has best insight of course. Not even Byakugan or any other Sharingan can recognise clone from original.

Sasuke has that ability also....ems users have that ability. Sasuke showed it against kabuto

 

[The Necromancer]

Sasuke has that ability also....ems users have that ability. Sasuke showed it against kabuto

Uh.... no he didn't. Only Madara has shown the ability to distinguish between clones and original.

Kabuto doesn't even use clones.

 

[Michael]

Point 1 makes no sense especially when Hinata activated 360dv and was pretty much able to see an area that was 10km away instantly. [

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Point 2... "Automatically snitch" What?
Point 3.. True. And good.. But didn't Neji also see Kurama behind a seal that wasn't weakened back in p1?

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Thats all folks

 

[Reviewing Logic]

We don't even know how the byakugan came into existence and where it came from beyond the Otsutsuki clan.

The Byakugan is an input as it takes in information and ironically with GF destroys ninjutsu. So it is more of a defensive eye.

While the Sharringan is more so an output as it has MS output abilities, it outputs Susanoo, Genjutsu and other quirks. So an offensive eye.


What is cool is that these eyes have a play on connection in linguistics with the afterlife but sadly I feel that this new story won't actually address the meaning behind that.

Point 1 makes no sense especially when Hinata activated 360dv and was pretty much able to see an area that was 10km away instantly. [

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Point 2... "Automatically snitch" What?
Point 3.. True. And good.. But didn't Neji also see Kurama behind a seal that wasn't weakened back in p1?

oh yeah I forgot Orochi closed the seal up LOL

then Jiraiyah popped it open again

only for it to disintegrate into a oozing mess during those two years away

hence the 4 tails

 

[Dark Ryu]

you forgot Momoshiki, Kenshiki, Toneri and Hamura

They are not even ninjas....and Toneri never had byakugan

 

[Reviewing Logic]

They are not even ninjas....and Toneri never had byakugan

Toneri had Hanabi's byakugan

plus Toneri was born with the byakugan but had his eyes plucked out for that tenseigan altar


All of them are called Shinobi

Hamura called his people on the moon

MOON SHINOBI

regardless the OP wasn't even about Shinobi in the first place