[Debate] Do any of you see america becoming third world in a near future?

[elitenoob94]

I don't know, man.

Hard to tell now a days when shit is always screwing up.

 

[Donald Trump]

It's possible, like all things in the world.

 

[Aim64C]

A friend is talking about how America is becoming a third world. I disagree, at least not anytime soon

People have this odd idea that things throughout history happen slowly and predictably.

They somehow ignore the fact that there is no historical evidence to support this, and every bit of historical evidence to the contrary. Collapses happen almost overnight.

Consider an event that prohibits trucks/trains from delivering food to the stores. How much food is on the shelves?

A couple days' worth.

How much food is in the cupboards of most homes? Less than 2 days. This does vary considerably by region - but in major population centers, most people do not have an available store of food.

Thus, society can easily be said to be 48-96 hours away from collapse.

What happens when people can't get food? Do they sit and sing songs around the camp fire? Perhaps the first couple days when people are being generous and have faith that there will be a return to what was normal.

By the time 36 hours pass and there have been few signs of a return to normal - the generosity starts to see a bit of a decline. People go from appreciating the change of pace to considering the consequences of permanency.

So - what do hungry people do? They try to find ways to survive. Some will sell their children as sexual favors to those with food, others will try to forage, but most will simply try to take from those who were being generous the day before but are now 'being stingy.'

Thus, looting begins.

Stores are broken into, first - but the homes of people known to have food and supplies will follow in the days after.

[video=youtube;Eym4PwHmUvI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym4PwHmUvI[/video]

While there are some issues I take with the video (some stupid decisions are made simply for the sake of demonstration) - there are a lot of good points in it.

That said - the U.S. still has a lot of people that are truly of a different breed.

I like to phrase it this way - it is the Constitution that sheaths the swords of our warriors. As the Constitution is burned away by politicians, those of us warriors will dispose of those in our nation with a third world mentality of thuggery.

Then we will craft a new Constitution so that we can sheath our swords and live a life of minimal bloodshed and mutual prosperity.

Until someone decides to burn it away, again. Then we'll have to kill them for being stupid, again, and craft a new one - but that will take another couple generations (or maybe not quite so soon, since we will have better and more accessible records of what happened and why).

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Rising unemployment and poverty, economic dependence, declining civil rights, increasing political corruption, failing infrastructure,
disappearing middle class, devalued currency, controlling the media, capital controls.

Isn't it already?

Umm...no.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That term is offensive. So called third world counties are behind economically due to war and enslavement from so called first word countries. The rich in America will only get richer where as the poor will only ever get poorer in America and else where

I don't think that term means what you think it means

 

[Bronze]

China is barely ahead of us in Economy, that's it. They still have a long way to go in other places.

Barely? Not really. 2014 economic graph shows China is way ahead of the U.S. in economy.

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The U.S. is slowly losing in its economy environment, as you could see from the graph. It won't happen in the future, but after few centuries, you can bet. They spend a lot of money on military hardware, which probably won't last for long if we don't have WW3.

 

[Tarinth]

At worst, America would follow the same path as the former strongest nations of the world, and still be major
like Great Britain, France, and Spain. Just that our influence would greatly decrease but it would still be there.

And that's most likely not in the near future. A transformation like that would have to occur over the process
of a hundred to two hundred years. So it wouldn't ever occur in our life time. This is of course assuming no abnormal
occurrences occur like total nuclear warfare, disaster from space (a huge meteor coming for example), or some
major geological occurrence like the eruption of the supervolcano in the middle of the nation.

 

[Cabbage]

I guess the Federal Bank Reserve is preventing the u.s. of a. from becoming a 3th world country. Just print more dollars, somehow not being affected as much by inflation.

Most of the costs associated with inflation are buried within smaller packaging sizes, smaller serving sizes, and changes to cheaper production goods with the final product (utilization of recycled material with more and more products for example). Also, another methodology currently used within the United States is the purposeful usage of more cheap, part-time workers for jobs that used to use full-time workers (this one is particularly noted with countering the escalating healthcare costs).