DMS Obito vs hashirama
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DMS Kakashi had ridiculous abilities but adding to Obito's already broken jutsu of Kamui? As well the ability to snipe with it, fly and create firepower jutsu the size of Hashirama's largest forest?
As usual with Hashirama matchups, it all comes down to the Buddha working or Hashi loses. I give it to Obito .
As usual with Hashirama matchups, it all comes down to the Buddha working or Hashi loses. I give it to Obito .
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Not to mention that his kamui is now instant and faster than it was before. DMS Obito is a monster.
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Yeah, for sure. Completely broken abilities but at the same time, once Obito was unmasked Kamui never really worked in action as well as it should on paper. Taijutsu Kakashi got him, nevermind Hashi. Kamui is OP and haxed but hypothetically it's not the instant win it seems.
Obito IS still stronger ability-wise but was Kakashi's Susanoo honestly that much stronger than Madara's was? Shinjusenju still would've pushed Madara to the limit so we have to assume Obito's would struggle under it too.
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I feel it wouldn't get to the point of hashi using shinjusenju or Obito using PS. I feel kamui alone would be enough to finish off Hashi before he even enters SM.
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Obito destroys lol. Kamui bypasses everything hashirama has and hashirama doesn't have reactions anywhere near kaguya's portal i.e sasuke. So he gets one shotted. One MS obito without intel would destroy hashirama and here he has 2 plus rikudo chakra.
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Hashirama still wins. The other eye adds nothing that Hashirama doesn't already counter when fighting Kakashi or Obito. Clones and sensing make long range kamui useless, and no Susanoo Obito can't produce is strong enough to do anything to Hashirama. After Susanoo is wrecked flower world one shots.
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Obito wouldn't be able to invoke Ninjutsu even close to the scale and monstrosity of Hashirama's, nor would he have access to the Kamui Shuriken which would be instrumental in dismantling Hashirama's Mokuton. The best shot he has is DMS Kamui which given his reduced reaction speed and reduced chakra control (therefore, more time is allocated towards accumulating chakra), I'm inclined to say Rikudou's chakra is a necessity if Obito wants to win this.
Edit: Obito also lacks a counter to Flower Tree World without Kamui Shuriken or Perfect Susano'o, so there's that too.
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Flower tree world useless when Hashirama gets sniped. Obito kamui speed was fast enough to dimension walk with Kaguya. RSM Naruto who was literally 10ft away if not closer[
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That's due to Kakashi's increased reaction time and ability to accumulate chakra was due to being invigorated by Rikudou's chakra. That in no way infers that DMS Obito/Kakashi w/o would accomplish the same feats. That said, because Obito and Kakashi were glorified by Rikudou's chakra and were deliberately elevated to match Naruto/Sasuke in power for the sake of the plot, it makes sense why Kakashi accomplished the feat that he did. DMS Obito and Kakashi without that power would not live up to the same potential and would not accomplish the same feats simply because they're on a much lower spectrum than the God Tiers within the manga.
Flower Tree World would simply faze Obito once he's used up his intangibility (5 minute limit).
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Rikudo chakra doesn't speed up warping time lmao and that's obvious the only thing that speeds up the warping time is DMS alone and that was confirmed here[
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]. It will time him out? No it won't since he wouldn't need to be intangible for 5 mins straight when he can warp out of the pollen range or use his giant Kunai to cut down the branches. Also Hashirama is sniped before he can even weave a hand sign.