DMS Kakashi's Kamui Raikiri is OP

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The largest flaw here is that it's impossible to make his entire body except for his hand intangible. Kamui works by detecting any unwanted collision on any wanted bodies. That's how it's possible to allow touching of the ground, clothing, and how Obito got Sasuke out of the particle style.

Kamui Raikiri works by using his chakra in his hand as the vertex point instead of his eye. His entire body had to be in the original dimension to connect with Kaguya. That's why he only got her arm, as he couldn't just phase while only his hand is there.
 

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how is Hokage Kakashi not beating Shikamaru, Hinata and Choji ?
With Sai I think he could win but its a tough one
a though one ?
Did sai get any new abilities ?
Kakashi wins this low-med diff.
Lee will be impossible
yes if lee starts with the gates activated, but otherwise Kakashi can go underground and lee won't be able to track him.
A raiton clone is send outside and lee attacks him with taijutsu which is a sure paralyzation, which leads to a victory for Kakashi.
Neji is out of question.
how ?
The others he would lose mid diff
you mean shikamaru,choji and hinata wins against him with med diff ?
thats laughable, he has much more experience and is much more faster.
whats wrong with some people
 

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Wall of pure wank....

Oi, how was the Kaguya who got hit by Kamui Raikiri "stronger and faster" than the Kaguya who Naruto and Sasuke were fighting??? Where are the scans??
 

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how is Hokage Kakashi not beating Shikamaru, Hinata and Choji ?

a though one ?
Did sai get any new abilities ?
Kakashi wins this low-med diff.

yes if lee starts with the gates activated, but otherwise Kakashi can go underground and lee won't be able to track him.
A raiton clone is send outside and lee attacks him with taijutsu which is a sure paralyzation, which leads to a victory for Kakashi.

how ?

you mean shikamaru,choji and hinata wins against him with med diff ?
thats laughable, he has much more experience and is much more faster.
whats wrong with some people

Shikamaru as a GENIN had an IQ that rivaled Kakashi's ...

He is known for making OP plans and coming out on top...


Choji could flat out crush him, let's say he does manage to make a Raiton clone, it wouldn't paralyze Choji unless he puts in a shitton of chakra into it...

What long range moves does Kakashi have that Hinata can't counter?? And he can't go with cqc because gentle fist would neg him and even he knows that... She can track him while he's underground too, she can tell whenever he makes a Raiton clone, so he has no chance with that.
 

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Wall of pure wank....

Oi, how was the Kaguya who got hit by Kamui Raikiri "stronger and faster" than the Kaguya who Naruto and Sasuke were fighting??? Where are the scans??

It was stated after Kaguya absorbed the chakra of the people under Infinite Tsukuyomi to stabilize herself.
 

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Preta Path solos Kamui Raikiri :|
Any Projectile attack solos Kamui Shuriken :|

Preta can't deal with Kamui Raikiri because it can only absorb ninjutsu composed of chakra but Kamui isn't; it's a jutsu activated and controlled with chakra.
 

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Shikamaru as a GENIN had an IQ that rivaled Kakashi's ...

He is known for making OP plans and coming out on top...

Shikamaru may be slightly more intelligent, but lacks battle tactics and other ways to bring Kakashi down, who can blitz him with beast runner easily.

Choji could flat out crush him, let's say he does manage to make a Raiton clone, it wouldn't paralyze Choji unless he puts in a shitton of chakra into it...
beast runner blitzes before shoji is able to expand
its a myth that Kakashi uses a lot of chakra for a raiton kage bunhsin.
Pain arc Kakashi used 4 raikiris, 1 doton mud wall, sharingan active, and one raiton clone and got still half of his chakra.

What long range moves does Kakashi have that Hinata can't counter?? And he can't go with cqc because gentle fist would neg him and even he knows that... She can track him while he's underground too, she can tell whenever he makes a Raiton clone, so he has no chance with that.

What speed feats does hinata have ?
Kakashi can make a raiton clone before her eyes and let attack her, it won't make a difference, she has to defend herself and gets paralyzed ( rotation is side stepped, air palm, too)
 

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Shikamaru may be slightly more intelligent, but lacks battle tactics and other ways to bring Kakashi down, who can blitz him with beast runner easily.


beast runner blitzes before shoji is able to expand
its a myth that Kakashi uses a lot of chakra for a raiton kage bunhsin.
Pain arc Kakashi used 4 raikiris, 1 doton mud wall, sharingan active, and one raiton clone and got still half of his chakra.



What speed feats does hinata have ?
Kakashi can make a raiton clone before her eyes and let attack her, it won't make a difference, she has to defend herself and gets paralyzed ( rotation is side stepped, air palm, too)

Correct me if I am wrong but in order to use Raikiri/lightning cutter,he needs Sharingan which he doesnt have.Most of Kkashi's attacks needed sharingan including chidori.Otherwise he is useless without it
 

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Correct me if I am wrong but in order to use Raikiri/lightning cutter,he needs Sharingan which he doesnt have.Most of Kkashi's attacks needed sharingan including chidori.Otherwise he is useless without it

You are incorrect. He used it without sharingan on more than 1 occasion.
 

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Wall of pure wank....

Oi, how was the Kaguya who got hit by Kamui Raikiri "stronger and faster" than the Kaguya who Naruto and Sasuke were fighting??? Where are the scans??

Wall of pure manga facts. Sorry if you don't like them, that's not my fault.

Here is the scan for you. Official Viz scan, my friend.

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Shikamaru as a GENIN had an IQ that rivaled Kakashi's ...

He is known for making OP plans and coming out on top...


Choji could flat out crush him, let's say he does manage to make a Raiton clone, it wouldn't paralyze Choji unless he puts in a shitton of chakra into it...

What long range moves does Kakashi have that Hinata can't counter?? And he can't go with cqc because gentle fist would neg him and even he knows that... She can track him while he's underground too, she can tell whenever he makes a Raiton clone, so he has no chance with that.

Kakashi just blitzes those fodders.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong but in order to use Raikiri/lightning cutter,he needs Sharingan which he doesnt have.Most of Kkashi's attacks needed sharingan including chidori.Otherwise he is useless without it

He needs the Sharingan only when he uses Raikiri to dash against an opponent that could be able to counter. When the opponent is paralyzed or trapped or distracted he doesn't need the Sharingan, and with opponents that are too slow compared to him he doesn't need too. Also he can use Raikiri extended with the Raiju Tsuiga, or spam Raikiri kunai that pierce giant rocks like butter. Or use Rasengan.

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Sharinganless Kakashi is still a strong mother****er. Speed, smartness, versatility, 1000 jutsu, clones mastery, Raiton mastery, skilled taijutsu. And there's the new jutsu, Raiton: Shiden.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong but in order to use Raikiri/lightning cutter,he needs Sharingan which he doesnt have.Most of Kkashi's attacks needed sharingan including chidori.Otherwise he is useless without it

I see no reason why a Kage bunhsin shouldn't use raiden and raikiri.
Kakashi is able to run at high speed, but it doesn't matter whether the clone sees the counter or not, its just a clone who will vanish in the worst case.
In best case the opponent isn't able to react or counter due to being to slow (like the most of k11)
In addition to that he can open the 1 gate to increase his speed
 

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Preta can't deal with Kamui Raikiri because it can only absorb ninjutsu composed of chakra but Kamui isn't; it's a jutsu activated and controlled with chakra.

Except Kamui Raikiri isn't Kamui. It's Raikiri w/ Rikudo's Chakra amping it up. Kamui only comes into play by making Kakashi intangible.

So yes, Preta can absorb it.
 

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Except Kamui Raikiri isn't Kamui. It's Raikiri w/ Rikudo's Chakra amping it up. Kamui only comes into play by making Kakashi intangible.

So yes, Preta can absorb it.

Kamui Raikiri uses both functions of Kamui; the pierced body part is sent to the other dimension.
 
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