DMS Kakashi vs Juubito

[PhantomSage]

Location - Where Madara was stomping fodder
Distance - 50m
Intel - Manga
Mindset - IC
Restrictions - None

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My Opinion :
DMS Kakashi takes this. Gudodama's are nullified with warping by Kamui (which War Arc Kakashi did btw) or bypassed with phasing. Or Kakashi can put up PS enhanced with Rikudo chakra, which will nullify the Gudodama. Juubidama tree is taken out quickly with a giant AOE Kamui like he used on Gedo Mazo, or busted up with PS and Kamui Shuriken. Sword of Nonuboku is shit, bypassed with phasing, or tanked with PS.

Or Kakashi can just fly with winged PS and rain down Kamui Shuriken.

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, can probably take Juubito out before he reacts.

What are your thoughts? :hmm

 

[ARGUS]

Juubito can win

-- kamui warps are dodged, they can be cancelled too since Juubito isn't phasing here,

-- Outer path stakes pin down the kamui shuriken and make them Disappear. Obito has already been shown to toss 6 of them whilst kakashi only tosses 4 of them

-- TSB shield from all 9 of them tanks PS slashes, and the juubidama then eradicates it. Outer path stakes counter the kamui shuriken, and kamui isn't warping the tree if obito can cancel his warps

-- TSB shield also counters kamui raikiri which only warps what it pierces, and it's not piercing the TSB shield

-- match ends with obito either outlasting Kakashi or eventually landing a blow on him

 

[Eng nawashi]

Since Obito should still have access to kamui power bar phasing, it would be too difficult for kakashi to win here. Obito mostlikely wins. If Kakashi could counter Obito's TTB then he can eventually win after breaking through obito's shield with hypothetical Kamui raikeri In PS .if he couldnt, then obito would mostlikely win by either outlasting Or By teleporting To kamui dimension after engulfing himself with TSB shield and firing his Quad TTB .When PS gets destroyed and kakashi phases through the explosion , obito Would sneakly kill him in the other dimension. Obito Is kinda bad match for kakashi . obito's remaining kamui power wouldnt help him against anyone else as it would against kakashi .

 

[Uchihakil]

Juubito wins, he counters kakashi hard cuz he can nullify kamui warp with his right eye, so kamui shurikens and long range kamui becomes useless as well as kamui raikiri,basically errthing that makes kakashi hax
- juubito is already knowledgable on kamui (cuz its his power ofcourse)
- juubito has waay more chakra
- kakashi can't genjutsu juubito (juubito might prepp IT though)
- obito can regenerate any other damage made by kakashi assuming kakashi landed a hit somehow

Juubito >>> DMS kakashi

 

[KidGamer65]

If Kakashi could use Raikiri through Susanoo then he'd murk Obito. Otherwise:

-Gudo Dama block his attacks.
-Kamui long range is nullified.
-PS is outlasted or blown up w/ Bijuu Dama.
-Kakashi is outlasted or defeated.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

If Kakashi could use Raikiri through Susanoo then he'd murk Obito. Otherwise:

-Gudo Dama block his attacks.
-Kamui long range is nullified.
-PS is outlasted or blown up w/ Bijuu Dama.
-Kakashi is outlasted or defeated.

why would susanoo raikiri murk Obito?

 

[KidGamer65]

why would susanoo raikiri murk Obito?

Kamui raikiri warps what it pierces and there is no shield Obito can make that it won't pierce.

 

[PhantomSage]

Pretty sure he can phase through Gudodama shield and hit him just like he did with Kaguya.

 

[PhantomSage]

You're right, Kamui Raikiri can be activated with a warping effect to get closer to Juubito, if Gudodama comes up, it can be nullified via Rikudo Chakra, warped away, or bypassed via phasing. Kamui Raikiri left Kaguya unable to substain flight, it's pretty damaging.

And yes, pretty sure Kamui Raikiri can pierce Gudodama seeing as how it's imbued with his Rikudo chakra.

 

[ARGUS]

I don't think we can grant kakashi, PS-raikiri

 

[TRE MERCER]

DMS > Juubi Jin.

Juubito can win

-- kamui warps are dodged, they can be cancelled too since Juubito isn't phasing here,

-- Outer path stakes pin down the kamui shuriken and make them Disappear. Obito has already been shown to toss 6 of them whilst kakashi only tosses 4 of them

-- TSB shield from all 9 of them tanks PS slashes, and the juubidama then eradicates it. Outer path stakes counter the kamui shuriken, and kamui isn't warping the tree if obito can cancel his warps

-- TSB shield also counters kamui raikiri which only warps what it pierces, and it's not piercing the TSB shield

-- match ends with obito either outlasting Kakashi or eventually landing a blow on him

How can he stop long range kamui? Juubito can't utilize his MS techs. Did you really just say outpath pins down kamui shurikens? Lol there not physical. TSB's gets ripped right through. Juubidama's are useless as kamui shurikens take them out or Kakashi just simply phases through them.

If Kakashi could use Raikiri through Susanoo then he'd murk Obito. Otherwise:

-Gudo Dama block his attacks.
-Kamui long range is nullified.
-PS is outlasted or blown up w/ Bijuu Dama.
-Kakashi is outlasted or defeated.

TSB gets taken out via Kamui snipe or Kamui shurikens or they simply get busted via inhanced PS. How come? Juubito has no use of kamui here. Juubidama's are the definition of useless. DMS Kakashi can't be outlasting since his chakra source is spiritual which means he can't run out of chakra. It's like the edo's. Edo's get their chakra from their original soul/spirit which is why there chakra is limitless DMS Kakashi wields Obito soul thus his chakra is connected through Obito's.

 

[PhantomSage]

DMS > Juubi Jin.


How can he stop long range kamui? Juubito can't utilize his MS techs. Did you really just say outpath pins down kamui shurikens? Lol there not physical. TSB's gets ripped right through. Juubidama's are useless as kamui shurikens take them out or Kakashi just simply phases through them.

TSB gets taken out via Kamui snipe or Kamui shurikens or they simply get busted via inhanced PS. How come? Juubito has no use of kamui here. Juubidama's are the definition of useless. DMS Kakashi can't be outlasting since his chakra source is spiritual which means he can't run out of chakra. It's like the edo's. Edo's get their original soul/spirit which is why there chakra is limitless DMS Kakashi wields Obito soul thus his chakra is connected through Obito's.

Yeah, he can phase through Juubidama's rather easily.
Or he can just wreck the three with Rikudo enhanced PS or destroy the tree with Kamui Shuriken.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yeah, he can phase through Juubidama's rather easily.
Or he can just wreck the three with Rikudo enhanced PS or destroy the tree with Kamui Shuriken.

This DMS is to much for Juubi jins. Juubi jin relies to much on their TSB's we seen how easily Gai was able to handle Madara when they took his TSB's away from him.

Lol @ long range kamui being useless. Obito only stopped the kamui on the Gedo Mazo since it took way to long to warp the object. Kakashi used kamui twice and it happened so fast Obito couldn't even see it. Kakashi uses shadow clones inside his PS which would allow multiple snipes a one time.

 

[Uchihakil]

This DMS is to much for Juubi jins. Juubi jin relies to much on their TSB's we seen how easily Gai was able to handle Madara when they took his TSB's away from him.

Lol @ long range kamui being useless. Obito only stopped the kamui on the Gedo Mazo since it took way to long to warp the object. Kakashi used kamui twice and it happened so fast Obito couldn't even see it. Kakashi uses shadow clones inside his PS which would allow multiple snipes a one time.

Even if it was to fast for obito, juubito would still njllify any effect on kamui used on him as he will feel it, nothing in kakashi's arsenal is hurting juubito when juubito no sells the kamui/warping attacks (which he has shown to be capable of)

 

[KidGamer65]

TSB gets taken out via Kamui snipe or Kamui shurikens or they simply get busted via inhanced PS. How come? Juubito has no use of kamui here. Juubidama's are the definition of useless. DMS Kakashi can't be outlasting since his chakra source is spiritual which means he can't run out of chakra. It's like the edo's. Edo's get their chakra from their original soul/spirit which is why there chakra is limitless DMS Kakashi wields Obito soul thus his chakra is connected through Obito's.

a BSM BD and a Susanoo Arrow were tanked by one Gudo Dama. All 9 together block Kakashi's attacks comfortably.

Obito already nullified long range Kamui on the Mazo, so it's not working on him or his Gudo Dama. Shuriken are intercepted via Mokuton Sashiki or by Chakra Receivers, and the striked is fanfiction based on literally nothing. Where the Edo Zombies get chakra has never been stated or hinted upon. Kakashi's chakra is not limitless. When Obito's chakra runs out he loses his power and Obito's spirit goes to the afterlife.

And Bijuu Dama murks PS, so it's not useless.

 

[ARGUS]

DMS > Juubi Jin.

Baseless, especially when all portrayal puts the Juubito Jin above mere MS

How can he stop long range kamui? Juubito can't utilize his MS techs.

The only thing he can't do is phase since he can't have two juubis at two different dimensions
He can still warp and do other things, similar to how madara displayed

Did you really just say outpath pins down kamui shurikens? Lol there not physical.

Terrible ass point
Kamui shuriken only warp what it comes in contact with
Outer path stakes and shuriken are obviously physical, as once the stakes hit them, the shuriken warp them and themselves away

TSB's gets ripped right through.

No chance
If one TSB can tank BSM TBB and susanooo arrow with only a crack
Then a shield from all 9 of them easily tanks a PS slash

Kamui isnt warping them since it's cancelled altogether

Juubidama's are useless as kamui shurikens take them out or Kakashi just simply phases through them.

Juubidama are only used to counter PS. In this case, it'll mop Ps off the face of the earth
Kamui shuriken won't be countering when they'll just get pinned down by outer path stakes

 

[TRE MERCER]

a BSM BD and a Susanoo Arrow were tanked by one Gudo Dama. All 9 together block Kakashi's attacks comfortably.

Obito already nullified long range Kamui on the Mazo, so it's not working on him or his Gudo Dama. Shuriken are intercepted via Mokuton Sashiki or by Chakra Receivers, and the striked is fanfiction based on literally nothing. Where the Edo Zombies get chakra has never been stated or hinted upon. Kakashi's chakra is not limitless. When Obito's chakra runs out he loses his power and Obito's spirit goes to the afterlife.

And Bijuu Dama murks PS, so it's not useless.

Once Kakashi is in striking range if Obito decides to block with TSB there getting sniped. Obito only stopped the snipe before via it took way to much time to do. He isn't stopping DMS Snipe which is cannonly fast enough to snipe something RSM Naruto can't even dodge. Juubito has no chakra receivers his receivers were used through his TSB's. Wrong. Spirit chakra don't run out. In that case Edo's would die if they use to much chakra and they don't. DMS Kakashi chakra is used just like edo's are. Spirit using chakra through a body. DMS Kakashi chakra is limitless.

Baseless, especially when all portrayal puts the Juubito Jin above mere MS

DMS isn;t just a mere ms it's laced with Rikudo chakra.

The only thing he can't do is phase since he can't have two juubis at two different dimensions
He can still warp and do other things, similar to how madara displayed

Terrible ass point
Kamui shuriken only warp what it comes in contact with
Outer path stakes and shuriken are obviously physical, as once the stakes hit them, the shuriken warp them and themselves away

Based off what? Obito couldn't use Kamui in anyway what so ever unless you provide a scan of Obito using Kamui in anyway then it's irrelevant. Juubito doesn't even have outpath stakes so your wrong anyways.

No chance
If one TSB can tank BSM TBB and susanooo arrow with only a crack
Then a shield from all 9 of them easily tanks a PS slash

Kamui isnt warping them since it's cancelled altogether

Orbs are sniped once there used as defense i've already stated this. Juubito isn't reacting to DMS Snipe when it was faster than RSM Naruto movement speed. So kamui is never being canceled.

Juubidama are only used to counter PS. In this case, it'll mop Ps off the face of the earth
Kamui shuriken won't be countering when they'll just get pinned down by outer path stakes

Juubidama's would never do anything to his PS since they'll never get off.

 

[KidGamer65]

Once Kakashi is in striking range if Obito decides to block with TSB there getting sniped. Obito only stopped the snipe before via it took way to much time to do. He isn't stopping DMS Snipe which is cannonly fast enough to snipe something RSM Naruto can't even dodge. Juubito has no chakra receivers his receivers were used through his TSB's. Wrong. Spirit chakra don't run out. In that case Edo's would die if they use to much chakra and they don't. DMS Kakashi chakra is used just like edo's are. Spirit using chakra through a body. DMS Kakashi chakra is limitless.

No, the snipe has always been the same. :lol It being visually slown down for the reader to see doesn't change that. Long range Kamui doesn't work on Obito as he has shown the ability to nullify it. End of story. Reaching and making stuff up won't change that fact.

And no, the receivers obviously weren't used through the Gudo Dama. I highly suggest you actually read the Manga before posting. :lol

And the rest is based on literally nothing. Call me when you can prove Edo Tensei's unlimited chakra has anything to do with their souls and call me when you can show that DMS Kakashi's case is the same. Otherwise he has a limit to his chakra. Period. Don't respond again if all you can do is repeat the same defeated garbage over and over and over and over again.

 

[TRE MERCER]

No, the snipe has always been the same. :lol It being visually slown down for the reader to see doesn't change that. Long range Kamui doesn't work on Obito as he has shown the ability to nullify it. End of story. Reaching and making stuff up won't change that fact.

Nope it is faster[

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]. Naruto didn't move an inch from the time Kakashi sniped the warp hole. Plus he only reacted to kamui snipe the last time because it was slower since he was warping a huge object. Obito didn't even know Naruto Rasengan got sniped here[

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]. He didn't even notice it here either[

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]. If Kakashi isn't warping something huge which he isn't Obito isn't stopping long range kamui. He def isn't stopping DMS Kamui which was faster enough to warp something that RSM Naruto couldn't even dodge. Kakashi can also use shadow clones to help him with Kamui snipe as well.

And no, the receivers obviously weren't used through the Gudo Dama. I highly suggest you actually read the Manga before posting. :lol

Yes they are used through TSB[

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And the rest is based on literally nothing. Call me when you can prove Edo Tensei's unlimited chakra has anything to do with their souls and call me when you can show that DMS Kakashi's case is the same. Otherwise he has a limit to his chakra. Period. Don't respond again if all you can do is repeat the same defeated garbage over and over and over and over again.

Edo's get their chakra from a dead person soul/Spirit. Kakashi gets his DMS chakra from a dead persons soul/spirit there is no difference here. DMS Kakashi chakra is limitless.

 

[ARGUS]

DMS isn;t just a mere ms it's laced with Rikudo chakra.

And that small fragment is taken from a Juubi Jin

Based off what? Obito couldn't use Kamui in anyway what so ever unless you provide a scan of Obito using Kamui in anyway then it's irrelevant

No stop twisting words
Obito said he can't use intangibility, which is only one part of kamui
Madara has already shown that other abilities of kamui can still be used, (self warp) which are certainly accessible to obito

. Juubito doesn't even have outpath stakes so your wrong anyways.

He used the outer path stakes to encompass the barrier boundaries

Orbs are sniped once there used as defense i've already stated this.

Kamui is cancelled, as already stated

Juubito isn't reacting to DMS Snipe when it was faster than RSM Naruto movement speed. So kamui is never being canceled.

What a stupid argument.
DMS snipe being that fast is obviously baseless when the snipe was barely faster than TSB which are blatantly slower than juubi Jin speed

Juubidama's would never do anything to his PS since they'll never get off.

Again, baseless since kamui shuriken and kamui warp are flat out stopped
PS slashes are blocked