DMS Kakashi & BM Minato vs Madara & Hashirama

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Kakashi solos. They have nothing that can touch him. He blitzed kaguya so blitzing hashi and then Madara is easy and will be done in under 30 seconds. And to those saying his chakra is lacking.... Its not in this case Minato feeds him chakra and its even easier. Minato can sit there and feed Kakashi chakra.

He didn't blitz Kaguya. The only reason he managed to tag her is because Kaguya subconsciously responds by absorbing attacks composed of chakra yet Kakashi deceived her by applying Kamui's properties as well which prevented her from absorbing it as she can't absorb space and time itself.
 

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Obito interrupted the almighty Kamui when Kakashi tried to use it to warp the Juubi.




Kamui isn't and never will be too fast to be sensed. That's ridiculous.
 
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This is the second thread of vote Hashirama and Madara being put up against a Rikudo character.

Kakashi and Minato wins 1 and 2 but loses 3. DRSM Madara is extremely underrated.
 

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This is the second thread of vote Hashirama and Madara being put up against a Rikudo character.

Kakashi and Minato wins 1 and 2 but loses 3. DRSM Madara is extremely underrated.

The only character with Rikudo chakra I think they can take on. Naruto/Sasuke/JJs destroy them
 

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Im not going to reply i honestly don't feel like making another big ass paragraph. So KG just know Kakashi and Minato still wins.
 

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Too busy fore long paragraphs so this will be my last reply .
No, it's not. Hand size and body size aren't the same nor does two things being able to hold the same sized object mean that they are the same size overall. That's terrible logic.

hands being as big doesn't mean that bodies would be as big too .but in our case it means that bodies would be nearly of the same size unless you have reasons why it doesn't .also this analogy can work both ways .

1. There is no reason to believe Kitsuchi's jutsu magically changed size. :lol So if you want to believe it's bigger show me that it's bigger, otherwise your opinions on the matter are irrelevant.

2. And lmao you should really stop grasping at straws now sonny boy. Kitsuchi's Mountain Sandwich is not size. That's how large the Mountains are compared to the Bijuu Dama's explosion. are Bijuu compared to their own explosions. is, again, Mountain Sandwich compared to something barely twice the size of a Bijuu. We have standard sized explosion compared to the surrounding at VoTe. Show me an actual inconsistency or don't talk about inconsistencies at all.

A kneeling Juubi is shorter by a good amount than the Mountain sized Mountain Sandwich. Standing tall the Juubi would be about two times as tall as said Mountain Sized construct. Shinsuusenju sitting down is over twice as tall and large as Mountains. You literally have no point here.



The Juubi is a bit larger than a Mountain Sized technique.

Of course, you have no counter so you resort to talking about inconsistencies when in reality you have no idea what you are talking about or how there is even an inconsistency to begin with. My comparison uses the Mountain Sandwich and one instance of Mountains as a comparison. So unless you can come up with some magical explanation for why Mountain Sandwich's size is inconsistent compared to those specific Mountains you have no point.
Really waste of ink .Yeah the sandwich used on jiubi was clearly bigger but I won't bother elaborating that since i admit it was still within TTB range but the point is ,you have no proof that vote mountains is as big as the ones that TTB was vaporizing in the war .
I never claimed that any of your scans is inconsistent .on other other hand you nearly claimed every scan that destroys your argument to be inconsistent:lol


Lmao how pathetic. Kurama's size is the inconsistent size there. No one said anything about the Mountains. Your comparison is garbage and is literally based on nothing but hand size. So hilariously foolish. The Juubi in it's second form is larger than it is in it's 1st form yet it can't life Full Kurama with it's hand.nd we still have the fact that Full Kurama>>>Half Kurama in size, so if I used your dumb logic SS>>>Juubi in size.
Half Kurama is shown to be as large as the other Bijuu, thus Full Kurama is larger. End of story. Not interested in your flawed comparisons with inconsistent scans so if you want to continue to argue this you can take it up with Kishimoto.

Any scan that doesn't appeal to you is inconsistent ,isn't it !!? .Kishi drew bunta and kuarma in the same scan and he made their head and hands nearly equal in size not once but twice .there is no inconsistency here .if kuarma was much bigger than Bunta ,warping Kuarma's arm with his hand wouldn't have been even possible .

Let's review the facts .
-Full kuarma is nearly as big as Bunta and by extention other Bijus ..........Fact.
- Kuarma shrunked after Minato sealed his Yin Chakra .........Fact
- after 16 years ,half Kuarma was shown to be nearly as big as other bijus ........Fact

The most logical conclusion that doesn't ignore any of these three facts is that the shrunk was temporary effect and Kuarma nearly restored his original size over time .your conclusion ignores clear many a scans .you ask me to explain how half Kuarma is as big as full Kuarma yet you think full Kuarma dwarfs half Kuarma .don't ask for logic when you don't use any bit of it .
how half kuarma ,after 16 years , is as big as full Kuarma !!? don't ask me .you can ask Kishimoto.





If Madara fires in a downward trajectory then it'll hit the ground even if he misses, thus there will be an explosion.
Kakashi's PS would be already airborne .and if Madara fired his TTB with downward trajectory then kakashi can simply evade it by flying higher with his PS .when TTB explodes at ground level ,its height is reduced to half. so your are talking about an explosion that wouldnt even crack PS since it would be caught in its outskirts at worst .
-Madara fires his TTB with downward trajectory .
-Kakashi's PS ,which would be already airborne ,would evade by flying higher .
-TTB hits the ground and explodes .
-Kakashi's PS is barely caught in the explosion and thus barely damaged .
-Kakashi's PS flies out of TTB reach ,when it explodes at ground level ,thus Madara fails every next time .


Madara was shown on panel firing all those Bijuu Dama at the same time or in rapid succession. If all you are going to do is blatantly deny what occurs on panel then please don't reply to me again.

-Bijuu Dama are fired.
-Shuriken are fired.
-4 Shuriken take out 4-6 Bijuu Dama.
-The rest hit Kakashi.

Kakashi can fire more than four shrukens if there is enough distance .Kakashi's PS would be air pone so far from Kuarma so there would be enough distance .
And again Kakashi wouldnt waste his Chakra on warping TTB when his PS can easily evade them all.

-Madara rinses and repeats.
-Eventually Kakashi dies
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Not when he would fail every time and not when Madara and his ISO Susano would be hiding from Kakashi's Los behind Hashirama's Mouckton .





Lmao. A bunch of fanfiction. Here's what the Manga shows:



-Kakashi uses Kamui.
-Rasengan starts to be warped.
-Obito reacts.
-Uses stake.
-It's revealed that the entire clone was the target, not just the Rasengan.

Show me where Kakashi used Kamui twice. Show me where it was proven that the user can control the warp speed of Kamui. Obito didn't notice the clone being warped because he fired his stake, and in between the stake leaving his eye and reaching the rock Naruto's clone was warped, thus Obito thought he killed the clone. As usual you are wanking Kamui and denying what actually happened because it proves that Kamui isn't as great a jutsu as it's fanboys like to think.

It is obvious that Kakashi used another kamui because :-
1.a kamui with rasengan sized barrier can't warp a human suzed object so it is either he used a new bigger kamui or he made the already existing kamui bigger
2.kakashi was still fine after using this kamui on rasengan but suddenly his eye bled and he got extremely exhausted which means he used more chakra .

Nope This is what happened .
-kakashi uses kamui on Naruto's rasengan .
-Obito notices it and States that he wouldn't let Naruto slip through him .
-Obito attacks Naruto's clone by warping out a stick with much faster kamui than the one on Rasengan .
-Obito thinks that the stick hit the clone and comments on how slow Kakashi's kamui on the Rasengan .
-it comes out that when the stick that coming out from obito's eye was just an inch from Naruto's head ,Kakashi warped Naruto's clone with much faster kamui than obito's one on the stick .

-Obito gets stunned by the speed of kakashi's kamui on the clone and states that he was faster than his stick which was approaching Naruto's head with merely obito's warping speed at that time .

If it was really like you say that Kakashi warped the clone with the same speed of the Kamui on Rasengan then
1- explain why the stick, getting warped out of obito's eye , could move from Obito's eye to Naruto's head faster than Kakashi could warp the rasengan yet the same stick with the same speed couldn't move one more inch faster than Kakashi could warp Naruto's clone !!!!?
2- explain why Obito was stunned by the speed of Kakashi's kamui on the clone though he was watching Kakashi's Kamui warping speed on the rasengan a second before !!?
three kamui with completely different speed were used in the same scan .The speed of Kamui on Naruto's clone >>>>>>the speed of kamui on the stick >>>>>the speed of Kamui on the rasengan .yet this guy seems to think that Kamui speed is fixed Lmfao

That Obito-Minato point is irrelevant. He said next time he'll warp him as soon as he touches him instead of waiting to warp him like he did in canon. Give me evidence Kakashi can control long range Kamui's speed or don't bother continuing with this point.

Nope he meant he would make the warping much faster but I think I should break it down for you.
in the fist time ,Minato hadn't any Intel on Obito and his power .he didn't know that Obito can warp him on contact .which means the Jumping wasn't a reaction to Obito's grasp but to getting warped .in other words ,Minato could react to Kamui in mid warping without any piece of Intel .so tell me again how would Obito think that he would warp Minato with the second attempt now when he has gained Intel by just initiating kamui faster after the grasp !!!?
He clearly meant that he would make the warping faster because it is the only way Obito can even think that he can warp Minato after he reacted to getting warped without any piece of Intel on Obito's power
Yup, he is.

No he isn't .get me feats of Hashirama doing what you say faster than a Goudodama stick thrown by Jin Madara can move few metres .get me feats of Hashirama doing what you say faster than an attack that made Kaguya's teleported ash bone look frozen .

Them being able to be built up doesn't prove your case. Them being able to be built up is proof that they can be sensed though.



If Kakashi is hiding far away enough to the point where SS can't reach him then you are going to need to show me evidence that his shockwaves will reach Madara's position.

Whatever .kakaahi doesn't need to warp Madara's PS before defeating Hashirama in order to win .



Lmao I'm not gonna argue this and the thread match up together.

OK but Kakashi would undoubtedly beat DRSM Madara in 1 vs 1 fight :Lol

Lmao and Onoki and his buddies got knocked out seconds later so I have no idea what you thought this was going to prove. Madara hit them with Susanoo before they entered the forest. So yeah, no. Flower World goes up and Kakashi gets knocked out. Escaping the jutsu's range is pointless since he'll need to come back if he wants to continue the fight, and he's not destroying the flowers after Susanoo has been obliterated. Him knowing to do this immediately is based on nothing anyway as he has no intel on the flower world.

Twisting now!!? Gokage were caught after a few seconds only because they were forced to breathe the pollen when Madara's Susano hit them .Sakura wasnt affectted by Sasori's poison as long as she could hold her breathe .kakashi wouldn't be affected as long as he is blocking out all the air just like what sakura did against Sasori .he doesn't need Intel in order to realise that the pollen comes out from the flower and he doesnt need PS in order to cut every flower after traveling next to it by either double teleportation or by phasing through the ground .stop taking things out of context in order to make your argument less weak.
and no ,Kakashi's PS wouldn't be destroyed as long he is out of Buddha's range .
 

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Kakashi can easily kill Hashirama w/o overpowering or warping Buddha .he can simply double teleport meter or less behind Hashirama above Buddha then kill him with Kamui Raikeri thrust .he can even create some distraction before teleporting by throwing some Kamui Shurukins towards Hashirama .once Hashirama is killed ,Kakashi destroys Madara low diff for obvious reasons .with that being said Kakashi solo in s1 and s2 mid diff if he fought smartly ,like he always does .if kakashi wasn't smart enough and tried to overpower them in Avatar CQC ,his PS would get most likely destroyed but he would still eventually win high diff due to their inability to touch or counter PS-less Kakashi .
 

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Too busy fore long paragraphs so this will be my last reply .


hands being as big doesn't mean that bodies would be as big too .but in our case it means that bodies would be nearly of the same size unless you have reasons why it doesn't .also this analogy can work both ways .

No, it doesn't. You've yet to actually explain how your logic makes sense so i'll just consider this as you not being able to explain how you make sense. Thus concession accepted.


Really waste of ink .Yeah the sandwich used on jiubi was clearly bigger but I won't bother elaborating that since i admit it was still within TTB range but the point is ,you have no proof that vote mountains is as big as the ones that TTB was vaporizing in the war .
I never claimed that any of your scans is inconsistent .on other other hand you nearly claimed every scan that destroys your argument to be inconsistent:lol

Except you can't prove it was bigger. You have no evidence it was bigger nor do you have evidence that Kitsuchi's sandwich varies in size. End of story. I've already shown that

And if you could read the English language properly you'd know that's not true. You have no scan that destroys any argument. You are just being a Kakashi fanboy as usual, and that's why I'm just going to ignore any more posts you ever direct towards me that involve Kakashi since it seems you can't argue with a clear unbiased as possible mind when it comes to him.


No scan shows Kurama equaling Bunta in size. All you see is part of Kurama's body and Bunta's full body, so I'm just going to ignore any argument you have on that matter.

-Full Kurama shrunk.
-Full Kurama was never shown to be as big as Bunta.
-Half Kurama is as big as the Bijuu.

End of story.

Kakashi's PS would be already airborne .and if Madara fired his TTB with downward trajectory then kakashi can simply evade it by flying higher with his PS .when TTB explodes at ground level ,its height is reduced to half. so your are talking about an explosion that wouldnt even crack PS since it would be caught in its outskirts at worst .
-Madara fires his TTB with downward trajectory .
-Kakashi's PS ,which would be already airborne ,would evade by flying higher .
-TTB hits the ground and explodes .
-Kakashi's PS is barely caught in the explosion and thus barely damaged .
-Kakashi's PS flies out of TTB reach ,when it explodes at ground level ,thus Madara fails every next time .

No point of this argument since you can't prove Kakashi is fast enough to reach the outskirts before he actually gets blown up.


Kakashi can fire more than four shrukens if there is enough distance .Kakashi's PS would be air pone so far from Kuarma so there would be enough distance .
And again Kakashi wouldnt waste his Chakra on warping TTB when his PS can easily evade them all.

That makes no sense, because that doesn't take the speed of the Bijuu into account.


It is obvious that Kakashi used another kamui because :-
1.a kamui with rasengan sized barrier can't warp a human suzed object so it is either he used a new bigger kamui or he made the already existing kamui bigger
2.kakashi was still fine after using this kamui on rasengan but suddenly his eye bled and he got extremely exhausted which means he used more chakra .

Stop lying. One Kamui was shown. That's it. Not interested in your idiotic speculations. If there was two Kamui then Kishimoto would've drawn the activation happening twice.

-Obito gets stunned by the speed of kakashi's kamui on the clone and states that he was faster than his stick which was approaching Naruto's head with merely obito's warping speed at that time .

If it was really like you say that Kakashi warped the clone with the same speed of the Kamui on Rasengan then
1- explain why the stick, getting warped out of obito's eye , could move from Obito's eye to Naruto's head faster than Kakashi could warp the rasengan yet the same stick with the same speed couldn't move one more inch faster than Kakashi could warp Naruto's clone !!!!?
2- explain why Obito was stunned by the speed of Kakashi's kamui on the clone though he was watching Kakashi's Kamui warping speed on the rasengan a second before !!?
three kamui with completely different speed were used in the same scan .The speed of Kamui on Naruto's clone >>>>>>the speed of kamui on the stick >>>>>the speed of Kamui on the rasengan .yet this guy seems to think that Kamui speed is fixed Lmfao

1. Already explained this. The stake hid Naruto's warping. Period. Obito didn't realize he was faster than the stake until after he knew Naruto arrived, and he didn't know Naruto was warped because of the stake hiding it. We've already seen that Obito can react to and perceive Kamui's warp multiple times. Naruto moving a few inches and Obito reacting to the Kamui have no correlation that'd prove your argument so just stop.

2. He was stunned that Kakashi made it before his stake. So no, there was no different speed. Kamui is a fixed speed. Period. All you have are dumb speculations while I have concrete Manga facts.

"Lolol he used kamui twice!!" Based on nothing.



Nope he meant he would make the warping much faster but I think I should break it down for you.
in the fist time ,Minato hadn't any Intel on Obito and his power .he didn't know that Obito can warp him on contact .which means the Jumping wasn't a reaction to Obito's grasp but to getting warped .in other words ,Minato could react to Kamui in mid warping without any piece of Intel .so tell me again how would Obito think that he would warp Minato with the second attempt now when he has gained Intel by just initiating kamui faster after the grasp !!!?
He clearly meant that he would make the warping faster because it is the only way Obito can even think that he can warp Minato after he reacted to getting warped without any piece of Intel on Obito's power

"I'll take him a lot quicker...as soon as we touch"



Speed refers to how fast it took Obito to initiate the warping. Not the speed. That is what was stated. Don't type stupid paragraphs to try and contest something the Manga blatantly states.

No he isn't .get me feats of Hashirama doing what you say faster than a Goudodama stick thrown by Jin Madara can move few metres .get me feats of Hashirama doing what you say faster than an attack that made Kaguya's teleported ash bone look frozen .

Obito reacted to Kakashi's Kamui three times. Once to stop the Mazo. Once when he was warping Naruto's clone, and once when he was going to warp the Juubi. You have no weight here.










Twisting now!!? Gokage were caught after a few seconds only because they were forced to breathe the pollen when Madara's Susano hit them .Sakura wasnt affectted by Sasori's poison as long as she could hold her breathe .kakashi wouldn't be affected as long as he is blocking out all the air just like what sakura did against Sasori .he doesn't need Intel in order to realise that the pollen comes out from the flower and he doesnt need PS in order to cut every flower after traveling next to it by either double teleportation or by phasing through the ground .stop taking things out of context in order to make your argument less weak.
and no ,Kakashi's PS wouldn't be destroyed as long he is out of Buddha's range .

Except you've yet to actually show how Kakashi destroys any flower without PS. So as usual, you type paragraphs but you have no real argument that actually makes sense.

Don't ever quote me again. :lol Ridiculous.
 

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I'm debating weather I should step in or not I could solo everyone in this thread without much problems.
 

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No, it doesn't. You've yet to actually explain how your logic makes sense so i'll just consider this as you not being able to explain how you make sense. Thus concession accepted
Usually if hands are as big that means bodies are as big too .you claim that isn't true with Buddha and Jiubi's case then the proof of burden on you .


Except you can't prove it was bigger. You have no evidence it was bigger nor do you have evidence that Kitsuchi's sandwich varies in size. End of story. I've already shown that
Kitsuchi's sandwich was bigger but I wont waste my time elaborating that since it doesn't matter .mountains vary in size in real life and it was never stated in the manga that all mountains of all areas share the same size .the burden of proof is on you you now have to prove that vote mountains are TTB range ,don't reply again if your next paragraph wasn't you desperately trying to prove that .

And if you could read the English language properly you'd know that's not true. You have no scan that destroys any argument. You are just being a Kakashi fanboy as usual, and that's why I'm just going to ignore any more posts you ever direct towards me that involve Kakashi since it seems you can't argue with a clear unbiased as possible mind when it comes to him.
There is and my English skills have nothing to do with it .the scan of Bunta's head and hand being as big as Kuarma's head and hand destroys your argument .and your counter to this scan was claiming it is inconsistent and now claiming it doesn't exist .

how big Jiubi is compared to Buddha has nothing to do with this match or kakashi .so keep crying .

No scan shows Kurama equaling Bunta in size. All you see is part of Kurama's body and Bunta's full body, so I'm just going to ignore any argument you have on that matter.
All i see is Bunta's head and hand being as big as Kuarma's head and hand .all I see is Bunt a warping kuarma's arm with his hand which wouldn't have been possible if Kuarma is much bigger

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-Full Kurama shrunk.
Yeah but temporarily.

-Full Kurama was never shown to be as big as Bunta
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Keep telling yourself these lies .

-Half Kurama is as big as the Bijuu
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The only thing that is right in your whole stupid post .
End of story.

It was a great fictional story .

No point of this argument since you can't prove Kakashi is fast enough to reach the outskirts before he actually gets blown up.

Do you imply that Kakashi's PS would get destroyed by indirect hit from 12 TTB !? Do you realise how ridiculous that looks? BM avatar tanked an attack that effortlessly overpowered 9TTB Lmfao .PS doesn't need to get to the outskirts .it just needs to not be close to the center of the explosion and it wouldn't considering that PS would be airborne while TTB will hit the ground and explode .this is enough for PS to get out with almost no damage .

Madara fires his TTB with downward trajectory .Kakashi's PS tanks with almost no damage as explained .PS flies above TTB range .Madara tries again .PS is untouched .

That makes no sense, because that doesn't take the speed of the Bijuu into account.
What part of "if there is enough distance "you couldn't understand ?


Stop lying. One Kamui was shown. That's it. Not interested in your idiotic speculations. If there was two Kamui then Kishimoto would've drawn the activation happening twice.

Then explain how Kamui with Rasengan sized barrier can warp Naruto's clone !?
You know what ,don't bother explain anything because 1- anything gets out of your mouth is BS 2- it is irrelevant whether Kakashi used another Kamui or didnt ,this is irrelevant to my point .

It wasn't shown because the clone wasn't even shown getting warped on panel to begin with just like Kakashi's Kamui on Susano's arrows .


1. Already explained this. The stake hid Naruto's warping. Period. Obito didn't realize he was faster than the stake until after he knew Naruto arrived, and he didn't know Naruto was warped because of the stake hiding it. We've already seen that Obito can react to and perceive Kamui's warp multiple times. Naruto moving a few inches and Obito reacting to the Kamui have no correlation that'd prove your argument so just stop.
Don't act a stupid Kid ,oh wait you are already stupid and you are already Kid so you don't act anything ,sorry for misunderstanding bro.
Let's say that you are right and the stake blocked obito's vision though you aren't .that changes nothing ,that doesn't disprove these facts :
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Obito's Kamui stake was much faster than the warping on the Rasengan .......Fact that no one can deny .

Kakashi's warping Naruto was much faster than the Obito's Kamui stake ........another undeniable fact

Now bring your daddy and ask him what these two facts mean , he would slap you on the face and say "it means that Kakashi warped Naruto's clone much faster than he was warping the Rasengan ,stupid Kid"

Then he would give you a book that says If A is much faster than B and C is much faster than A ,that means C is so much faster than B .

Kamui speed isn't fixed .


2. He was stunned that Kakashi made it before his stake. So no, there was no different speed. Kamui is a fixed speed. Period. All you have are dumb speculations while I have concrete Manga facts
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And why would he get stunned by the speed of a jutsu with a fixed speed !!!?
He was stunned that Kakashi made it before his stake ,the same stake that was much faster than the warping on Rasengan ,so Kakashi warped Naruto faster than the stake who is much faster than the warping on the Rasengan .guess what that means ,it means Kakashi warped Naruto much faster than the warping on the rasengan .

I don't blame you but what you don't understand is that the Stake represents Obito's Kamui speed which means kakashi warped Naruto much faster than obito's Kamui on the stake which means Kamui speed isn't fixed .

"Lolol he used kamui twice!!" Based on nothing.
Keep crying ,Not relevant anymore.


"I'll take him a lot quicker...as soon as we touch"



Speed refers to how fast it took Obito to initiate the warping. Not the speed. That is what was stated. Don't type stupid paragraphs to try and contest something the Manga blatantly states.
He doesn't say he would initiate kamui faster .that is your own interpretation .he means that he would warp him much faster that he would get warped the moment obito touches him .I already explained why initiating kamui faster wouldn't have changed anything .anyone with a brain in his skull should know I am right .

Obito reacted to Kakashi's Kamui three times. Once to stop the Mazo. Once when he was warping Naruto's clone, and once when he was going to warp the Juubi. You have no weight here.

The Kamui on the Gedu that Obito reacted to was much slower than Naruto attacking obito with a Chakra arm.
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Kakashi's Kamui can be faster than Susano arrow which is much faster than Naruto's Chakra arm attack which means Kakashi's Kamui on Gedu's head was much slower than the maximum speed of Kamui .

The Kamui on Rasengan was much slower than obito's Kamui stake .Kakashi warped Naruto's Clone much faster than the same stake which means Kakashi's Kamui on the rasengan wasn't his maximum warping speed ,not even close.

Again ,Kakashi's Kamui can be faster than Susano arrow so it obviously can be faster than obito jumping in front of Kakashi .

Firt you claim that Kamui speed is fixed ,then get Kakashi's slowest Kamui and say that is how slow Kamui is .very good plan kid .you forget to put Kakashi's kamui on Deidra in your list .

And how many times could obito react physically to BM Naruto and KCM Naruto !!? Your argument is trash .kamui has already proved to be much faster than attacks that Hashirama can't react to by molding his chakra ,clapping his hands and forming mouktun big enough to hide I so Susano .Hashirama would struggle to evade ash bone teleported directly at his back let alone doing what you suggest .Kamui is much faster than teleported ash bone .you have no weight here .


Except you've yet to actually show how Kakashi destroys any flower without PS. So as usual, you type paragraphs but you have no real argument that actually makes sense.

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Except you are the one who have yet to show these Flowers's impressive durability feats that put it in a place where it can't be destroyed or cut down by anything in Kakashi's arsenal (boosted with rikudo chakra) except for his PS .stop spouting BS out of your ass in order to make Kakashi lose
First ,kakashi can't block all air out and he would be caught after a few seconds and now Kakashi can't destroy the Flowers without his PS .

the sword of lower versions of Susano can undoubtedly cut them off .Lol even his Rikudo enhanced Raikeri would wreck these flowers .Kakashi doesn't need mountains range+ + attack to cut these Flowers .I know it is hard to concede that Kakashi can easily deal with FTW since this jutsu was the straw that you and everyone ,who think Hashirama and Madara stand a chance against DMS Kakashi , were grasping at to ignore that Madara and Hashirama can't counter ,defeat or even touch PS-less Kakashi .

Again,you have yet to explain how Kakashi's PS would be destroyed when it would be out of Buddha's reach .
Don't ever quote me again. :lol Ridiculous
I can quote you whenever I feel like it .if you want me to stop quoting you then stop quoting me .that is how it works, kid .
 
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Lmao it's hilarious how one can type paragraphs and paragraphs of stupidity to try and invalidate Manga fact. Retarded little fanboys :lol
 

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That is what you always do whenever you get ****ed in an argument with me .
 
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Thanks for the usual butthurt neg rep :lo

Just to let you know how trash of a poster you are. Maybe you should try typing with both your hands on the keyboard instead of one of them in your pants salivating and foaming at the mouth to a scan of Kakashi. :lol
 

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Lol Kakashi literally Milly rocks.
 

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Kakashi's only chance to solo is to give him Sasuke's PS feats, which is nothing but fanfiction. His Susanoo lacks the firepower to overpower the other team. Minato is a nonfactor. Hashi's team rape in every scenario
 

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Kakashi's only chance to solo is to give him Sasuke's PS feats, which is nothing but fanfiction. His Susanoo lacks the firepower to overpower the other team. Minato is a nonfactor. Hashi's team rape in every scenario

Boy you sound bout dumb af. Minato taps Kakashi's back giving him a Kurama cloak and makes his ps stronger he warps the latter without much problems. Uses ISO Susanoo they have a flying Kurama he nukes the latter flash BD warped right by them cause damage then PS shockwaves from a distance would eventually tear SS down in size and how long can Hashirama use SS? Kakashi could warp Juubi with a cloak before dms and his boost with it he makes Madara vanish and Hashirama. clones with cloaks and intangibility warps right up to hashirama he takes his face off.

Kakashi solos like i said.
 

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Boy you sound bout dumb af. Minato taps Kakashi's back giving him a Kurama cloak and makes his ps stronger he warps the latter without much problems. Uses ISO Susanoo they have a flying Kurama he nukes the latter flash BD warped right by them cause damage then PS shockwaves from a distance would eventually tear SS down in size and how long can Hashirama use SS? Kakashi could warp Juubi with a cloak before dms and his boost with it he makes Madara vanish and Hashirama. clones with cloaks and intangibility warps right up to hashirama he takes his face off.

Kakashi solos like i said.
He already got rikudo's chakra, which made him 100 times stronger than when he received kyuubi's chakra. So kyuubi's chakra isn't going to make Kakashi stronger. Flash bd from Kurama is doing nothing to SS, and Madara will counter it with superior BDs. I'd like to seee Kakashi ever sniping with kamui while in Susanoo. He needed kamui shurikens for kaguya's hands. SS hands are bigger than that. Madara will counter the shurikens with shockwaves. You sound mad retarded saying Kakashi solos.
 

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Kakashi kamuid the kaguya's portal from long range, the same portal that sasuke couldn't react to. This is rikudo rinnegan sasuke we are talking about. This is one shot fight the moment kakashi gets his eye on them.
 

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He already got rikudo's chakra, which made him 100 times stronger than when he received kyuubi's chakra. So kyuubi's chakra isn't going to make Kakashi stronger.

Based off absolutely nothing like saying since Sasuke got the rikudou chakra him taking the bijuu chakra would not amp his susanoo but it did in canon so your wrong af this salty ass logic. 1 chakra being stronger does not mean a lesser chakra would fail to amp someone unless you can probide proof? Only how your logic would work as if the amper was trying to user their own chakra on them-selfs and this is not the case.



Flash bd from Kurama is doing nothing to SS,

Yes it it Hashirama arms we're vaporized in the vote explosion by standard tbbs and it's not like the attack of multiple bijuu damas was combined they we're all seperate meaning by they're lonely they could damage SS Arms a flash Bijuu dama of this size warped right next to ss would cause damage and this can be done easily by Minato with Kakashi's iso susanoo over his chakra arms just warp it right near them and it will already come out in it's explosive form so they is not a chance of them throwing it back.

and Madara will counter it with superior BDs.

He's Bijuu damas are inferior and not with the strategy i employed or simple flying around nuking them as well.

I'd like to seee Kakashi ever sniping with kamui while in Susanoo.

Sasuke casted amaterasu through susanoo it has the same mechanics of kamui just you need eye sight in focus which Kakashi clearly gets here.

He needed kamui shurikens for kaguya's hands. SS hands are bigger than that. Madara will counter the shurikens with shockwaves. You sound mad retarded saying Kakashi solos.

He needed them because they we're coming right at him and he wanted to warp them away he never gets in Hashirama's range and if he do he goes untangible then gets his distance or Minato warps them back with ftg pick your poison. Kamui shurikens are not even needed here Kakashi shockwaves > Madara's so your point is not a point at all a clone could bull kamui right through Madara susanoo diamond the slash him apart with Kamui raikiri. Kakashi does solo this.
 
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