DMS Kakashi and Juubito vs 8G Gai and Sasuke

[wael reda]

yes his kamui is getting evaded
Sasukes shunshin was fast enough to stop juubi Jin madara from executing kamui
And was also fast enough to make him unable to evade his attack
With sasukes reflexes as well as attacking speed his shunshin can evade kamui and also land the counterattack if kakashi solidifies

Madara didn't start the teleportation before sasuke attacked him
Sasuke's shunshin wasn't even fast enough to enter obito's portal Lol
Sasuke's reflexes Lol ,you must be kidding me ,he couldn't even react or evade kaguya's teleportation which is nowher to kamui snipe speed
On the other hand kakashi reacted to kaguya's teleportation and warped the portal and the bone before naruto got closer to the bone 1cm though both naruto and the bone was going towards each other (kakashi's reaction is much better than sasuke)
Kakashi speed blitzed powered up kaguya while sasuke supported with his s/t couldnt even touch low on chakra pre powered up kaguya (kakashi's shunshin is much faster sasuke's)
The only way sasuke can evade kamui is his s/t and that still debatable since he most likely won't be able to react at the right time and whatever once his s/t is in cool down ,his neck will be surly ripped off by kamui snipe or he would be speed blitzed by kamui raiki
Lol at sasuke fanboys ,when they realized that sasuke's s/t isn't a certain counter for kamui snipe due to the cool down ,they started saying sasuke can evade kamui by his shunshin and reflexes

 

[wael reda]

I dont know why people keep talking about the 4 jiubi doma's charging time,Obito doesn't need to form 4 giant jiubi doma or to form a barrier ,smallest jiubi doma can destroy sasuke and his PS no matter where he is ,so the barrier has no job here
Smallest jiubi doma was showed to be formed bretty fast

 

[ARGUS]

Madara didn't start teleporting before sasuke attacked him
Sasuke's shunshin wasn't even fast enough to enter obito's portal

Lol, please,
Madara was unable to evade sasukes shunshin, whether you like it or not as kakashi wouuld die from that damage
yet a weaker form of madara was dealing with kamui with utmost ease without even using limbo or RH

Lol
Sasuke's reflexes Lol ,you must be kidding me ,he couldn't even react or evade kaguya's teleportation which is nowher to kamui snipe speed

Lol you honestly cant be serious with the bold, this is just wank,
Kaguyas intermensional travelling is infact instant,
and last time i remember, kamui warps arent,
kamui warp speeed is nothing infront of god tiers

On the other hand kakashi reacted to kaguya's teleportation and warped the portal and the bone before naruto got closer to the bone 1cm though both naruto and the bone was going towards each other

Lol @Bold - where did kakashi react to kaguyas interdimensional teleportation

(kakashi's reaction is much better than sasuke)

Lol prove it, andd even then you wont be able to, because its not true

Kakashi speed blitzed powered up kaguya while sasuke supported with his s/t couldnt even touch low on chakra pre powered up kaguya (kakashi's shunshin is much faster sasuke's)

Lol you clearly dont know what speed blitz means, because this whole post is just BS

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, just because she didnt bother evadinng it, (which she was more than capable of doing) doesnt mean that she got blitzed,,

And Lol at Kakashis shunshin being above sasukes, when the latters shunshin was fast enough for juubi jin madara

The only way sasuke can evade kamui is his s/t and that still debatable since he most likely won't be able to react at the right time and whatever once his s/t is in cool down ,his neck will be surly ripped off by kamui snipe or he would be speed blitzed by kamui raiki

Lol, why do i have to explain the same thing to every kamui fanboy,
Kamui warps are NOT instant (refer to my explanation above, which you ignored) , however

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and Sasukes can just use his shunshin to evade the kamui warp if hes in a cool down,
his shunshin was pressuring a much stronger madara, yet kamui was getting counterattacked by a weaker madara who didnt even use his limbo Lol

kamui snipe or kamui speed blitz are never happening, ever

Lol at sasuke fanboys ,when they realized that sasuke's s/t isn't a certain counter for kamui snipe due to the cool down ,they started saying sasuke can evade kamui by his shunshin and reflexes

Lol, so just becuase i disagree with you, you jump to the conclusion that i am a fanboy??? Lol
sasukes S/T is a perfect counter for kamui, just like FTG, since his technique is faster and he would be the one landing the blow whenever the two collide, Lol
and no, his flash shunshin is indeed very fast, and with his reflexes he can use iit evade kamui,
its not something so surprising

 

[wael reda]

Lol, please,
Madara was unable to evade sasukes shunshin, whether you like it or not as kakashi wouuld die from that damage
yet a weaker form of madara was dealing with kamui with utmost ease without even using limbo or RH



Lol you honestly cant be serious with the bold, this is just wank,
Kaguyas intermensional travelling is infact instant,
and last time i remember, kamui warps arent,
kamui warp speeed is nothing infront of god tiers


Lol @Bold - where did kakashi react to kaguyas interdimensional teleportation



Lol prove it, andd even then you wont be able to, because its not true


Lol you clearly dont know what speed blitz means, because this whole post is just BS

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, just because she didnt bother evadinng it, (which she was more than capable of doing) doesnt mean that she got blitzed,,

And Lol at Kakashis shunshin being above sasukes, when the latters shunshin was fast enough for juubi jin madara


Lol, why do i have to explain the same thing to every kamui fanboy,
Kamui warps are NOT instant (refer to my explanation above, which you ignored) , however

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and Sasukes can just use his shunshin to evade the kamui warp if hes in a cool down,
his shunshin was pressuring a much stronger madara, yet kamui was getting counterattacked by a weaker madara who didnt even use his limbo Lol

kamui snipe or kamui speed blitz are never happening, ever


Lol, so just becuase i disagree with you, you jump to the conclusion that i am a fanboy??? Lol
sasukes S/T is a perfect counter for kamui, just like FTG, since his technique is faster and he would be the one landing the blow whenever the two collide, Lol
and no, his flash shunshin is indeed very fast, and with his reflexes he can use iit evade kamui,
its not something so surprising

Whether you accept it or not ,sasuke couldn't enter the obito's portal with his shunshin
It wasn't weaker madara who dealt with 1 eye kamuii's teleportation which is much slower than kamui snipe of 1 eye let alone 2 eyes with rikudo chakra
Absorbing tree didnt enhance madara's speed


You really act stupid here,I amnot talking about the dimensional shifting ,I am talking about when kaguya used her portal to fodderize sasuke which is clearly slower than kamui snipe (as kaguya's portal attack requires opening a portal next to her ,entering the portal ,opening another portal behind the opponent, getting out of the portal and grabbing the enemy ,while kamui snipe needs only looking at the enemy and a portal appears on him warping him nearly instantly)

Sasuke couldn't react to kaguya's portals while kakashi reacted at a harder situation and warped the portal and bone before naruto got 1cm closer to the bone though both the portal and the bone was going toward each other

that is why kakashi's reaction is better than sasuke's

Kaguya looked at kakashi before he used his shunshin ,then kakashi speed blitzed her using Susano remains as launch base
Kaguya's being able to evade kamui raiki is your fanfiction ,kaguya's not being able to evade it is manga fact
That is why kakashi's shunshin is better than sasuke's ,sasuke supported with s/t couldn't touch low on chakra pre powered up kaguya while kakashi speed blitzed powered up kaguya

By the way ,madara also looked at sasuke ,smiled and ended his phrase before sasuke cut him and while using his shunshin(kaguya looked at kakashi before using his shunshin not while using his shunshin) ,with your fail logic ,madara's being able to evade sasuke here is much more plausible than kaguya's being able to evade kakashi's kamui raiki,what a bad fanboy!!!!,you have no objectivity

Sasuke's s/t is instant but his reaction isn't even close ,so that means if he reacted a part of second late ,his neck would be ripped off by kamui ,minato's ftg is instant yet he wasn't able to evade jiubimadara and jiubiobito's striking speed which isn't instant ,do you know why ?!! Because his reaction wasn't fast enough

Lol,sasuke's shunshin was pressuring madara while kakashi speed blitzed powered up kaguya who is much faster than madara and her reactions is much better

Kamui raiki speedblitzed powered up kaguya and you say it won't work on sasuke ,you must be a mad fanboy

Sasuke's reflexes wasnt enough to react to kaguya's portals which is nowhere kamui snipe speed and was already proved in the manga

Sasuke's shunshin being able to evade DMS kakashi's kamui is a bad joke,Sasuke won't be able to move even a finger just like naruto couldn't ,manga fact

 

[MadaraReturns]

lolz bringing rinne tensei madara with limbo makes it an overkill, team 2 wins

 

[wael reda]

lolz bringing rinne tensei madara with limbo makes it an overkill, team 2 wins

Jiubiobito will deal with madara rather easily,gai will be sniped easily since he starts with 7 the gate ,kakashi will deal with sasuke
Edo hokage and jiubiobito(after defeating rinne tensei madara) will be just overkill ,team 1 wins

 

[ARGUS]

Whether you accept it or not ,sasuke couldn't enter the obito's portal with his shunshin

What portal are you talking about??
if youre talking about the portal that obito opened to get sasuke, then sasuke only resorted to using his S/T since obito couldnt maintain the portal for a long time, and the fact that his S/T is faster, nothing more nothing less

It wasn't weaker madara who dealt with 1 eye kamuii's teleportation which is much slower than kamui snipe of 1 eye let alone 2 eyes with rikudo chakra
Absorbing tree didnt enhance madara's speed]

Lol, Madara didnt even use his Limbo against the duo, and was keeping track of them rather easily,
however he was struggling against sasukes shunshin,

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and absorbing the tree made madara much stronger than what he was against the kamui duo, his speed is also most likely to increase

either way, madara reacted and tracked kamui quite well, yet he struggled against sasukes S/T and even his shunshin

You really act stupid here,I amnot talking about the dimensional shifting ,I am talking about when kaguya used her portal to fodderize sasuke which is clearly slower than kamui snipe

Lol no, Kaguyas interdimensional teleportation is instant, whether you like it or not,
Kamui warps on the other hand are NOT

(as kaguya's portal attack requires opening a portal next to her ,entering the portal ,opening another portal behind the opponent, getting out of the portal and grabbing the enemy ,while kamui snipe needs only looking at the enemy and a portal appears on him warping him nearly instantly)

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, this is much faster than any kamui warp can ever be,
and kaguya can change the shape of her portal and alter its size as well, which affects her striking speed

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kamui snipe while its based on the users LoS, it still requires a chakra built up, and then the void is formed, which still has a sucking rate, with that being said
Kaguyas interdimensional teleportation is faster than Kamui

Sasuke couldn't react to kaguya's portals while kakashi reacted at a harder situation and warped the portal and bone before naruto got 1cm closer to the bone though both the portal and the bone was going toward each other

Where did Kakashi even react to Kaguyas interdimensional shifting?????????
when you prove that, then we'll talk

that is why kakashi's reaction is better than sasuke's

Man with half of rikudos power and faster S/T obviously has superior reactions than a man with only a small portion of temporary rikudo chakra

Kaguya looked at kakashi before he used his shunshin ,then kakashi speed blitzed her using Susano remains as launch base
Kaguya's being able to evade kamui raiki is your fanfiction ,kaguya's not being able to evade it is manga fact

If you really want to claim manga facts then please use scans, because its not helping you here,

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and could have teleported through her jutsu instantly if she really wanted to,
its commoon sense that she can evade it since she has the reflexes to react to kakashis attack, and has an instant teleportation to allow her to evade it with ease, so no its not fanfic at all

That is why kakashi's shunshin is better than sasuke's ,sasuke supported with s/t couldn't touch low on chakra pre powered up kaguya while kakashi speed blitzed powered up kaguya

Lol no, i have already debunked the bold
kaguya was nt blitzed when she clearly saw kakashi coming,
therefore concluding that sasukes shunshin >>> kakashis,
not to mention that kamui raikiri is not shunshin, since the jutsu still requires the use of kamui, which is an S/T jutsu

By the way ,madara also looked at sasuke ,smiled and ended his phrase before sasuke cut him and while using his shunshin(kaguya looked at kakashi before using his shunshin not while using his shunshin) ,with your fail logic ,madara's being able to evade sasuke here is much more plausible than kaguya's being able to evade kakashi's kamui raiki,what a bad fanboy!!!!,you have no objectivity

@Bold - the irony of calling me a fanboy Lol even though i like kakashi more than sasuke Lol
and the irony of saying ''that i lack objectivity'' Lol, even though unlike u, i dont bring favoritism to cloud my judgement

and i have already stated that kamui raikiri is not shunshin, kamui =/= shunshin its common sense,
therefore half of ur claim in this entire post is already debunked

Sasuke's s/t is instant but his reaction isn't even close ,so that means if he reacted a part of second late ,his neck would be ripped off by kamui ,minato's ftg is instant yet he wasn't able to evade jiubimadara and jiubiobito's striking speed which isn't instant ,do you know why ?!! Because his reaction wasn't fast enough

Lol @Bold, comparing minato to sasuke, when the latters reflexes and reaction feats are much higher,
madara regardless of his JJ state failed to even land a hit on sasuke,
sasukes striking speed is also superior to kakashis

and he would easily be able to tell that kakashi is concentrating chakra on his eye to use kamui, and use either his S/T or his shunshin to evade the warp with ease

Lol,sasuke's shunshin was pressuring madara while kakashi speed blitzed powered up kaguya who is much faster than madara and her reactions is much better

this is debunked,
kakashi didnt blitz kaguya, nor did he use his shunshin in that scenario,

Kamui raiki speedblitzed powered up kaguya and you say it won't work on sasuke ,you must be a mad fanboy

Lol, why are you gettting angry??? chilll man
where have i wanked sasuke??
and please stop repeating the same thing over and over again, its annoying

Sasuke's reflexes wasnt enough to react to kaguya's portals which is nowhere kamui snipe speed and was already proved in the manga

THis is already debunked as well,
Kaguyas S/T is faster than kamui, and unless you can prove that (which you obviously cant since its false), then ur post will remain flawed

Sasuke's shunshin being able to evade DMS kakashi's kamui is a bad joke,Sasuke won't be able to move even a finger just like naruto couldn't ,manga fact

Lol, sasuke can see the chakra built up in kakashis eyes when he forms kamui, and can then use his S/T to evade it with ease or use his fast enough shunshin to evade it,

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@Bold - Lol, RSM Naruto would make a joke out of kamui, and so would sasuke,
whenever Sasuke and Kkaashi would collide, sasuke would be the one landing the blow on kakashi,
hell if kakashi is within sasukes S/T range then hes done for, since hes getting blitzed and severed in half,,

 

[wael reda]

What portal are you talking about??
if youre talking about the portal that obito opened to get sasuke, then sasuke only resorted to using his S/T since obito couldnt maintain the portal for a long time, and the fact that his S/T is faster, nothing more nothing less

yes i mean obito's portal ,sasuke's shunshin wasnt fast enough to enter it that even sakure was screaming while sasuke was using his shunshin

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he used his s/t becuae his shunshin wasnt fast enough ,and the portal wasnt closing that fast because obito was struggling to keep it opened

Lol, Madara didnt even use his Limbo against the duo, and was keeping track of them rather easily,
however he was struggling against sasukes shunshin,

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and absorbing the tree made madara much stronger than what he was against the kamui duo, his speed is also most likely to increase

lol,you keep talking about old feats ,you compare between 1 ms obito's telportation and dms kakashi's kamui snipe
no,nothing suggest that madara got faster after absorbing the tree

Lol no, Kaguyas interdimensional teleportation is instant, whether you like it or not,
Kamui warps on the other hand are NOT

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, this is much faster than any kamui warp can ever be,

i amnot talking about kaguya's rewriting the dimension ,i am taking about kaguya's portals

and kaguya can change the shape of her portal and alter its size as well, which affects her striking speed

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kamui snipe while its based on the users LoS, it still requires a chakra built up, and then the void is formed, which still has a sucking rate, with that being said
Kaguyas interdimensional teleportation is faster than Kamui

kaguya's portals isnt faster than kamui snipe
in order to attack using he portals ,she needs to open a portal next to her,entering this portal,another portal appears behind the enemy ,getting out of this portal and grabbing the enemy
sasuke here clearly saw kaguya opening the portal and entering it however he couldnt evade it

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kamui snipe needs only to look at your enemy ,then kamui hole appears instantly on the target warping it nearly instant
kamui snipe is much faster than kaguya's attack using her portals yet sasuke couldnt react or evade kaguya's portals
also when kakashi warped kaguya's portal before the bone can even get out of it 1cm more ,that was a proof that kamui snipe is much faster than kaguya's attack with portal which sasuke couldnt evade and naruto barely evaded it after being attacked with 2 times

not that only but double kamui teleportation is faster than naruto himself and here is the proof
naruto was struggling to enter the portal before it vanished but he couldnt whie obito could teleport himself,sakura and naruto's clone before the portal vanished

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Where did Kakashi even react to Kaguyas interdimensional shifting????????? k
when you prove that, then we'll talk

again ,i amnot talking about kaguya's rewriting the dimension ,i am talking about kaguya's attack with portal
here kakashi reacted and warped the portal while sasuke couldnt ,that proves kakashi's reactions is better than sasuke's

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Man with half of rikudos power and faster S/T obviously has superior reactions than a man with only a small portion of temporary rikudo chakra

fail logic,madara has whole jiubi chakra and rikudo chakra yet sasuke speedblitzed him with shunshin

kaguya has much more chakra than naruto yet naruto speedblitzed her

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and could have teleported through her jutsu instantly if she really wanted to,
its commoon sense that she can evade it since she has the reflexes to react to kakashis attack, and has an instant teleportation to allow her to evade it with ease, so no its not fanfic at all

i was using my moblie therefore it was hard to add scans
what are you trying to say?you want to say that kaguya could have evaded kaksahi but she preferred to be ****ed by him
you keep bringing me a scan when kaguya looked at kakashi before using his shunshin,this supports my point that kakashi speedblitzed her while she wasnt being distracted
looking at kakashi before using his shunshin is irrelevant and doesnt prove that she could have evade him physically whenever she wanted
you want manga scans ,here kaguya was speed blitzed by kakashi ,and she couldnt react or evade him

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rewriting the dimension couldnt have helped her since kakashi will go with her too and continue the attack

Lol no, i have already debunked the bold

kaguya was nt blitzed when she clearly saw kakashi coming,
therefore concluding that sasukes shunshin >>> kakashis,
not to mention that kamui raikiri is not shunshin, since the jutsu still requires the use of kamui, which is an S/T jutsu

looking at kakashi before using his shunshin doesnt mean she could have evaded him whenever she wanted ,this is a fail logic ,and with the same fail logic madara could have evaded sasuke's shunshin because he looked at him,smiled and talked while sasuke was using his shunshin

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so .no by feats kakashi's shunshin is faster than sasuke's
being intangible while speed blitzing kaguya didnt increase kakashi's shunshin speed

@Bold - the irony of calling me a fanboy Lol even though i like kakashi more than sasuke Lol
and the irony of saying ''that i lack objectivity'' Lol, even though unlike u, i dont bring favoritism to cloud my judgement

yes ,because if you were objective,you should have said madara could have evaded sasuke easily too since he looked at him,smiled and talked while using his shunshen
but on the other hand you said kaguya could have evaded kakashi because just she looked at him before using his shunshin,and said sasuke speedblitzed madara ignoring that madara looked at him too,smiled and talked while using his shunshin not before it

you try to get rid of kakashi's feat and amplify sasuke's feats

Lol @Bold, comparing minato to sasuke, when the latters reflexes and reaction feats are much higher,
madara regardless of his JJ state failed to even land a hit on sasuke,

you are the one who first mentioned minato and i amnot comparing minato to sasuke ,i just prove that having instant teleportation doesnt mean you can evade any attack that isnt instant because as i remmember madara's movements arent instant unlike minato's ftg

sasukes striking speed is also superior to kakashis

manga and feats disagree with you
low in chakra pre powered up kaguya evaded sasuke's striking speed easily while powered up kaguya couldnt evade kakashi's

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when you ignore manga fact and feats to say sasuke is faster ,then you must be a fanboy

Lol, sasuke can see the chakra built up in kakashis eyes when he forms kamui, and can then use his S/T to evade it with ease or use his fast enough shunshin to evade it,

@Bold - Lol, RSM Naruto would make a joke out of kamui, and so would sasuke,
whenever Sasuke and Kkaashi would collide, sasuke would be the one landing the blow on kakashi,
hell if kakashi is within sasukes S/T range then hes done for, since hes getting blitzed and severed in half,,

building chakra doesnt take any time from kakashi ,dms kakashi used kamui the instant he needed it to warp kaguya's portal and bone

with the same logic kakashi would see the building chakra in sasuke's eye and use the intangibility ,once sasuke appears with his s/t infront of kakashi ,he wouldnt be able to touch kakashi due to the intangibility,while kakashi would kamui raiki him Lol

come'n naruto didnt even move a finger when kakashi warped the whole portal and the bone

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[ShinjuMadara]

Kakashi can warp into Kamui so he's safe for a while. Gai wrecks Juubito but dies shortly after. Then all that's left is Kakashi vs Sasuke. Kakashi's Susanoo is superior because it has Kamui blades. but Sasuke can use rinnegan genjutsu.

I'd give it to sasuke, his genjutsu is just too strong.

If genjutsu is restricted, then Kakashi wins.

 

[Omar19992010]

Sasuke and Guy win this Low Difficulty.

-Sasuke is a tier above both Obito and Kakashi

-People to seem to forget that Obito stated that Kamui was too Slow Compared to One eyed Madara who wasn't even using any of his Techniques and a stronger version of him couldn't even keep up with Sasuke

-Might Guy arguably when he uses Night Guy is the fastest person in the NV and Madara couldn't even react to It

-The only problem for Guy is Obito TSB but Sasuke can just teleport the Objects or indivual wherever he desires before they can React

 

[Unorthodox]

people take wael reda serious tho

 

[wael reda]

people take wael reda serious tho

I speak with manga facts
With manga facts and feats DMS kakashi's shunshin is better than sasuke's

With manga facts and feats ,kakashi's reactions is better than sasuke

With manga facts and feats ,no way sasuke can evade kamui without his s/t

I shouldnt have taken sasuke fanboys seriously who think kaguya could have evaded kakashi whenever she wanted but she preferred to be ****ed by him just because she looked at him before using his shunshin ,that is their way to get rid of kakashi's feats ,but they say sasuke's shunshin speed blitzed madara though madara looked at him too,smiled and talked while using his shunshin

There is no way I can persuade the people who put their assumption at the manga ignoring what has already happened in the manga