[VS] DMS Kakashi&8G Gai vs Sasuke

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that's were you're wrong. Glance can only apply to the bijju's since they're the target sasuke's looking at.

Based on nothing. So you failed to sufficiently counter there.
it's the other way around. From a literal standpoint he has to look at all of them. Since there's no metaphor or allegory.
Figuratively. It can be said that it's a metaphor, for how fast/effortless he did it, but since he was being literal it's clear that's not the case. If you don't care for them stop using it as the basis of your proof.

What the hell? You fail to back up any of your claims, so I'll just ignore that because you're not giving any evidence for this wild conjecture.
I already proved it. The bijuu is plural. He didn't take multiple glances to look at all of them. He looked at all (or if I wanted to be extremely specific "the bijuu" can fit here too) with a glance.

You proved nothing lmao. And that would be the case had he said they were all under genjutsu with a glance. However that is not the case since Sasuke is being said to have put them under genjutsu with a singular glance. Not to mention nothing even begins to imply he required eye contact, so that'll be another thing you have to prove.
That's being figurative, and still dosen't change the fact that said glance has to gaze over all of them.
That would be correct if I went off of your misinterpretation of the definition, but I'm not. A singular glance is not a glance at every Biju, so you have yet to prove something to take away your burden of proof.
a)horrible comparison.
B) his sight was reflected off the moon catching evrryone. So yeah. He still looked at everyone.
Are you implying we know the mechanics of Sasuke's genjutsu? Because we don't. Madara still achieved it with a single glance regardless of what happened thereafter. Same applies to Sasuke, except his leans more towards a weak KA style of Genjutsu which doesn't require eye contact.
 

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Why do you hate sasuke so much?? He has no chance.. Gai or Kakashi arguably can beat him.

Incorrect, They cannot defeat Sasuke, Are you even serious? Start Analyzing better.
 

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Based on nothing. So you failed to sufficiently counter there.
Based on Harogomo's statement. Which I've been saying from day 1.



What the hell? You fail to back up any of your claims, so I'll just ignore that because you're not giving any evidence for this wild conjecture.
it's only 1 claim. Do I have to define what singular and plural is to you as well. U already got literally and Figuratively mixed up.



You proved nothing lmao. And that would be the case had he said they were all under genjutsu with a glance.
However that is not the case since Sasuke is being said to have put them under genjutsu with a singular glance.
both sentances are singular.
A glance= 1 glance
Single glance= 1 glance.
Glance= brief hurried look.
So by looking at them briefly he put them under genjutsu. That much is undeniable.
Not to mention nothing even begins to imply he required eye contact, so that'll be another thing you have to prove.
do you not know what the word glance means?

That would be correct if I went off of your misinterpretation of the definition, but I'm not. A singular glance is not a glance at every Biju, so you have yet to prove something to take away your burden of proof.
But it is. Based on the definition of the word it's the only option.

Are you implying we know the mechanics of Sasuke's genjutsu? Because we don't.
it requires eye contact or the glance wouldn't be necessary.
Madara still achieved it with a single glance regardless of what happened thereafter.
you're reaching. He looked at the moon and it was reflected on to everyone.
Same applies to Sasuke,
baseless. Sasuke's genjutsu isn't I.T. and dosen't even come close to it since both him and Naruto is required to undo it.
except his leans more towards a weak KA style of Genjutsu which doesn't require eye contact.
Even more bs. KA dosen't require eye contact or the eye to even be open for that matter while sasuke's requires a glance.
I'm done.

Oh and for your betterment:

fig·ur·a·tive
ˈfiɡyərədiv/
adjective
1.
departing from a literal use of words; metaphorical.

The above is what you think Harogomo was being.

lit·er·al
ˈlidərəl,ˈlitrəl/
adjective
1.
taking words in their usual or most basic sense without metaphor or allegory.

What I think Harogomo was being.

glance1
ɡlans/
verb
1.
take a brief or hurried look.

What sasuke has to do in order to put the Bijuu(plural if you didn't know) under his Genjutsu.
My last post 2 you.
 

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Sasuke has: Amenotejikara, PS, Special CT(the one he used on Bijuus), Enton, Chidori(destroys meteorites), 6 paths jutsu, 5 elements

Kakashi: Kamui, PS, 5 elements, 1k jutsus

Gai: 8 gates (Morning Peacock, Midday Tiger, Evening Elephant, Night Moth)

Imo Sasuke wins mid diff.
 

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Based on Harogomo's statement. Which I've been saying from day 1.



it's only 1 claim. Do I have to define what singular and plural is to you as well. U already got literally and Figuratively mixed up.



both sentances are singular.
A glance= 1 glance
Single glance= 1 glance.
Glance= brief hurried look.
So by looking at them briefly he put them under genjutsu. That much is undeniable.
do you not know what the word glance means?

But it is. Based on the definition of the word it's the only option.

it requires eye contact or the glance wouldn't be necessary.
you're reaching. He looked at the moon and it was reflected on to everyone.
baseless. Sasuke's genjutsu isn't I.T. and dosen't even come close to it since both him and Naruto is required to undo it. Even more bs. KA dosen't require eye contact or the eye to even be open for that matter while sasuke's requires a glance.
I'm done.

Oh and for your betterment:

fig·ur·a·tive
ˈfiɡyərədiv/
adjective
1.
departing from a literal use of words; metaphorical.

The above is what you think Harogomo was being.

lit·er·al
ˈlidərəl,ˈlitrəl/
adjective
1.
taking words in their usual or most basic sense without metaphor or allegory.

What I think Harogomo was being.

glance1
ɡlans/
verb
1.
take a brief or hurried look.

What sasuke has to do in order to put the Bijuu(plural if you didn't know) under his Genjutsu.
My last post 2 you.

Last post to me? Lol. You take things out of context and put them into your own interpretative context. How cute. ;) All this text and I have yet to see any reason to believe Sasuke did a 360. You can reiterate your points 100 times over for all I care, them not changing is your point not improving. Good thing to know Kakashi fans still grasp at straws when Genjutsu is brought up.
 

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Stop being a fan and you analyze better..
Same can be said to you, but then again it's your opinion if you think Gai and kakashi can defeat Sasuke so whatever, I'll go with mine.
 

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Same can be said to you, but then again it's your opinion if you think Gai and kakashi can defeat Sasuke so whatever, I'll go with mine.

The same can't be said for me, Sasuke is my favorite but to think Sasuke can beat two guys that are comparable in power is crazy... But like you said, it's just a matter of opinion.
 

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gai and hatake takes this with ease sasukecant tank one hit from EE
 

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The entire discussion went on Rinnegan: Genjutsu, even though it would hardly work on Mangekyou Sharingan and boost of Rikudou's Chakra. Regardless, T Bogard established how DMS Kakashi beats Sasuke. As for Gai, it will be a draw with 8 Gates leading to his death.

Sasuke has absolutely no indication to his reflexes able to react to Gai's speed, when Jinchuuriki Madara, a Senjutsu user and far physically faster, was being pounded left and right. So there is the fact Sasuke is never tracking Gai's movement, so all he will do is hide around his PS. But its proportional parts are busted by Evening Elephant, which leads to Sasuke being vulnerable.

Sasuke gets murdered by them individually. You're hating on him if you're pinning him with the two of them.
 

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Sasuke would win Mid-Difficulty.

EE isn't breaching Sasuke's PS and Night guy takes time to charge up and in that time Sasuke can blitz him with Amenotejikara.

Sasuke's PS can use his techniques like Chidori and we've seen that Sasuke can use Amenotejikara while being in PS so that gets rid of Kakashi's PS.

While being in CQC Sasuke could put him down with Rinnegan Genjutsu and Amenotejikara outspeeds Kamui. Preta Path absorbs Raikiri and any of Kakashi's Jutsu other than Kamui.
 
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