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Lee was taught how to use that taijutsu sasuke wasn't see the difference.

Sasuke copied itachi's genjutsu period.

Susano'o majestic attire is the fusion of PS and Kurama not PS, Einstein

Know the difference between bunshin jutsu and kagebunshin.

You're not very polite for a 12 years old

Dude sasuke could have trained himself to use the lotus and sasuke didn't copy the fusion how could he copy something he never saw and sasuke can just make more shadow clones because he has more chakra if he copied it wouldn't he have used them way earlier before he got his rikudo chakra ? He didn't copy naruto dude naruto makes a forest full of clones and thanks I'm not aiming to be polite
 

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some think that sasuke showed great skills in fighting against Garra when he,forexemple,copied rock lees' speed...
but IMO that's a wrong thinking........but why????



i tell you why!!

it's all thx to the sharingan itself and not sasuke's skills :

the sharingan be it standard or mangekyou has 2 aspects :

-A)as an eye : or better said as phisical part of the body : the sharinagan is needed for sight in the same way hands are needed to perform handseals

-B)as a source of spiritual energy : wich is the basis of the uchihas dojutsus..

thus the sharingan has 2 sources of powers :

-A)spiritual energy
-B) phisical energy


the phisical energy of sharingan:

the sharingan is already equiped with some jutsus and abilties...forexemple the copycat abilities are impossible without having sharingan ..

-thats why a non-uchiha member kakashi was called a copycat ninja...becuz the sharingan itself was equiped with this ability rather then the user.......and thats why the same copycat ninja kakashi fell victim to itachi's tsukoyomi,becuz of the absence of spiritual energy....
Sasuke copied Lee's taijutsu=speed but he had to work hard to use and master it even with sharingan. Sharingan doesn't automatically let him master it.

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yah i saw that scan thx for posting it..but this is at least just an exeption..not to mention that this is a fodder genjutsu that can be casted without need of sharingan
 

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yah i saw that scan thx for posting it..but this is at least just an exeption..not to mention that this is a fodder genjutsu that can be casted without need of sharingan

Without the need of sharingan? Then why is he using it to begin with?

Here he is using the sharingan genjutsu again to counter Obito's sharingan genjutsu. In the very next panel you see them using eye contact.

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Some think that Sasuke showed great skills in fighting against Garra when he, for exemple, copied rock lees' speed...
But IMO that's a wrong way of thinking........but why????



I'll tell you why!!

It's all thanks to the Sharingan itself and not Sasuke's skills:

The Sharingan be a standard or Mangekyou and has 2 aspects.

- A) As an eye (or better said as physical part of the body): The Sharingan is needed for sight in the same way hands are needed to perform handseals.

-B) As a source of spiritual energy: Which is the basis of the Uchihas dojutsus..

Thus the Sharingan has 2 sources of powers:

- A) Spiritual energy
- B) Physical energy


The physical energy of Sharingan: The Sharingan is already equipped with some jutsus and abilties. For example the copycat abilities are impossible without having sharingan.

- That's why a non-Uchiha member Kakashi was called the Copycat Ninja. Because the Sharingan itself was equiped with this ability rather then the user. That's also why the same ninja Kakashi fell victim to Itachi's Tsukiyomi. Because of the absence of spiritual energy.

Here you go.
 

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Without the need of sharingan? Then why is he using it to begin with?

kakashi's sharingan can not cast tsukoyomi...becuz tsukoyomi isn't sealed within the sharingan...it has sipirituall energy source that comes from the users..


any non uchiha ninja can use genjutsu...but its a fodder genjutsu...same one kakashi used in the scan
 

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kakashi's sharingan can not cast tsukoyomi...becuz tsukoyomi isn't sealed within the sharingan...it has sipirituall energy source that comes from the users..


any non uchiha ninja can use genjutsu...but its a fodder genjutsu...same one kakashi used in the scan

You specifically said that Kakashi never used the sharingan for genjutsu and only physical attacks. You never mentioned tsukuyomi.
 

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You specifically said that Kakashi never used the sharingan for genjutsu and only physical attacks. You never mentioned tsukuyomi.

when i said genjutsu i meant the original uchiha genjutsu.....also i just noticed the scan you posted of kakashi vs obito genjutsu fight...bro this has another explanation since its an exeption of the rules....kakashi's eye used genjutsu becuz it was connected with obito's
 
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i'll give you a point then.....my thread explains why madara was able to use susano without his eyes...becuz spiritual energy of sharingan isn't sealed within the sharingan itself but rather within the user! :)

actually susanoo is the third power of MS to which when activated a new chakra is released from the brain and using madara as an example is wrong since what madara did no one else can do, madara was able to use susanoo without eye's because his mastery over his power is greater than anyone else's and he also had hagoromos chakra.
 

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when i said genjutsu i meant the original uchiha genjutsu.....also i just noticed the scan you posted of kakashi vs obito genjutsu fight...bro this has another explanation since its an exeption of the rules....kakashi's eye used genjutsu becuz it was connected with obito's

What's the original Uchiha genjutsu then? If you're saying Tsukuyomi, its not.

As for Obito vs Kakashi, are you saying Kakashi's eye activated because it reacted without his control when Obito activated his? Meaning Obito genjutsu'd himself?

Overall I'm just trying to see why you believe Kakashi can't use sharingan genjutsu when he clearly has.
 
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i'll give you a point then.....my thread explains why madara was able to use susano without his eyes...becuz spiritual energy of sharingan isn't sealed within the sharingan itself but rather within the user! :)

A temporary manifestion of Susanoo just once is insignificant. If Madara could permanently and constantly use Susanoo without the eyes, then your argument could make sense.

Sasuke can't copy moves but if he could I doubt he would use that only kakashi showed this feat maybe he's the only one capable of it

You just like to make Sasuke look weak in every way you can, so you can just be quiet.
 
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What's the original Uchiha genjutsu then? If you're saying Tsukuyomi, its not.

As for Obito vs Kakashi, are you saying Kakashi's eye activated because it reacted without his control when Obito activated his? Meaning Obito genjutsu'd himself?

Overall I'm just trying to see why you believe Kakashi can't use sharingan genjutsu when he clearly has.

if kakashi was a good genjutsu user he wouldn't fall easily victim to itachi tsukoyomi genjutsu
 

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Why does it matter I'm not in School writing a paper **** off

Cause no one can ****ing understand you and it looks ****ing disgusting dont you understand that you god damned noob
 

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Cause no one can ****ing understand you and it looks ****ing disgusting dont you understand that you god damned noob

The thing is idgaf nobody on this site has an impact on my real life so ur opinion doesn't matter dumb shit
 

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A temporary manifestion of Susanoo just once is insignificant. If Madara could permanently and constantly use Susanoo without the eyes, then your argument could make sense.



You just like to make Sasuke look weak in every way you can, so you can just be quiet.
And u just like to make it seem like sasuke can do anything so u be quiet he hasn't shown the ability to copy so stop giving him feats that's the irritating thing about u sasuke fapboys wanna say he can do all these things then get mad if someone goes against it but are quick to say Naruto can't do certain things so plz stfu
 
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