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Hello guys, Kishi has just recenlty brought Naruto vs Sasuke final battle to frution at least it seems. I have seen a lot of people hyped and I am also hyped so it is fine. However I see Kishi attempting to make readers forget about crap he has wrote about Kaguya and how poorly her fight was executed by bringing so anticipated Naruto vs Sasuke battle, nice move Kishi but Kaguya arc will be pincale of bad writting Kishi has served no matter how awesome Naruto vs Sasuke battle will be. Ok, now I will go straight to the point, so bare with me:
^^ Kaguya's introduction was actually well done, so I don't see the issue people have with her introduction
She was foreshadowed and that is fact, then we got more detail about her:
^^ Kaguya well well presented and It is bow in Kishi's side for such well made introduction.
^^ Everyone should agree that Kaguya's design was epic and really intimidating. She was designed as real goddes with great might and power. White eyes as new doujutsu or god trait would fit her look much better but giving her Byakugan was also good move as we would see more from Byakugan although really not much.
^^ Here Kishi give us hint what Kaguya hold dear and close to her heart. Yes it is the planet/ground/earth itself. I believe one of the reasons of this is Forbidden fruit which come from Shinjuu. It clearly was pinacle of nature, order and the highest entity of nature that from where Kaguya's motive could come. Another possible case is that lost her love or someone really close to her in times of Ustoppable wars and that was trigger for her to reach for Forbidden fruit.
Kaguya clearly didn't care about Humankind, still she didn't want to damage planet which means she was nature loving entity, most likely Forbidden fruit awake your desires which in Kaguya's case was to stop the wars so she has done it then she began to hate more and more humans accusing them for stealing the chakra:
Possibly She has even expierienced it as chakra spreaded caused the wars to be even more intense and more destructive damging nature itself.
^^ Her mother side which is caring and warm was presented here on panel. Kaguya was clearly felt betrayed and misunderstood even by her sons. She wanted the wars to stop while she would be guardian of peace and order for humans.
^^ Originaly people used to fight each other due to human's nature most likely. It was long before the chakra concept came to existence. There was also the God Tree which wasn't involved in human wars. People used to worship it as holy tree. I believe the God Tree was acting as medium between humans and True God of Naruto World. One day fruit was sprouted by God Tree, I wonder what would be reason for God Tree being sprouted and I came to conclusion that The fruit was supposed to be award for people praying to God and trating God Tree with respect.
The Forbidden fruit, which was supposed to fulfill humankind desire... it was supposed for everyone... or for these who were praying.
^^ Then certain princess known as Kaguya Ootsutsuki took and ate the forbidden fruit to win and stop the war.
Now isn't it strange and random that someone who did it had to be her ?
I mean there would a lot of people trying to do that... but still noone attempted to.
Also The way Hagoromo was speaking about his mother bring some possible hints for her reasons:
^^ I wonder if Kaguya was normal woman with status of princess or was she the goddess as her son discribed her. If she was the eariler then it makes sense but if she was the latter then Shouldn't she be able to stop the wars by herself, unless she split her powers creating forbidden fruit which could be trated as trophy and size of it shown how much good people has done.., yeah seems farfetched.
Anyway I believe the trigger which caused her to took Forbidden fruit and ate it was loss of her lover one due to wars occuring at that times. It is also possible that she was pregnant at that time so she was unable to do anything besides watching the horror of other wifes loosing their's loved ones. After Kaguya stopped the wars the peace came for some time. Kaguya was caring and warm goddess for everyone... then something changed her.
I believe Hagoromo and Hamura spreading Chakra with people was annoying to her but her good side was still stronger in her. However the moment:
The fights become even more goursome also possible people harming nature in way or using it to selfish reasons and keep wars going on caused Kaguya to break to her bad side and God Tree's desire to regain all the chakra so Kaguya merged with it and that Juubi come in existence.
Juubi went at rampage trying to regain all spreaded chakra from humans killing them in process. Hagoromo and Hamura didn't like it so they stopped it. Now there is two possibilities:
- Kaguya was angry at her sons and found out them on her own trying to take chakra from them
or
- Hamura and Hagoromo were stopping Juubi on their own, seeking for her.
In the end it is also question that if Kaguya giving birth was forced to her or it was her will to give birth. If the first then it explains that she wanted them none existent and chakra back to her. If the latter as Hagoromo implied then rather She got angry at them later and decided to stop them from spreading any more chakra by killing him.
In the end Rushing the manga and being afraid to killing suspense with Naruto and Sasuke skils when it comes to Naruto vs Sasuke battle were the greatest reasons Kishi has done so poorly and made crap.
Also Black Zetsu recording Shinobi battles should increase Kaguya's battle smartness and fighting style instead it has do nothing in opposite to Buu who was learning from all the battle he has done until Kid buu could make use of that expierience fighting battle smart.
Thanks for reading !
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Kaguya's intruduction
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^^ Kaguya's introduction was actually well done, so I don't see the issue people have with her introduction
She was foreshadowed and that is fact, then we got more detail about her:
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^^ Kaguya well well presented and It is bow in Kishi's side for such well made introduction.
Kaguya's design and look
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^^ Everyone should agree that Kaguya's design was epic and really intimidating. She was designed as real goddes with great might and power. White eyes as new doujutsu or god trait would fit her look much better but giving her Byakugan was also good move as we would see more from Byakugan although really not much.
Kaguya's character
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^^ Here Kishi give us hint what Kaguya hold dear and close to her heart. Yes it is the planet/ground/earth itself. I believe one of the reasons of this is Forbidden fruit which come from Shinjuu. It clearly was pinacle of nature, order and the highest entity of nature that from where Kaguya's motive could come. Another possible case is that lost her love or someone really close to her in times of Ustoppable wars and that was trigger for her to reach for Forbidden fruit.
Kaguya clearly didn't care about Humankind, still she didn't want to damage planet which means she was nature loving entity, most likely Forbidden fruit awake your desires which in Kaguya's case was to stop the wars so she has done it then she began to hate more and more humans accusing them for stealing the chakra:
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Possibly She has even expierienced it as chakra spreaded caused the wars to be even more intense and more destructive damging nature itself.
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^^ Her mother side which is caring and warm was presented here on panel. Kaguya was clearly felt betrayed and misunderstood even by her sons. She wanted the wars to stop while she would be guardian of peace and order for humans.
Kaguya's motive and full history
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^^ Originaly people used to fight each other due to human's nature most likely. It was long before the chakra concept came to existence. There was also the God Tree which wasn't involved in human wars. People used to worship it as holy tree. I believe the God Tree was acting as medium between humans and True God of Naruto World. One day fruit was sprouted by God Tree, I wonder what would be reason for God Tree being sprouted and I came to conclusion that The fruit was supposed to be award for people praying to God and trating God Tree with respect.
The Forbidden fruit, which was supposed to fulfill humankind desire... it was supposed for everyone... or for these who were praying.
You must be registered for see images
^^ Then certain princess known as Kaguya Ootsutsuki took and ate the forbidden fruit to win and stop the war.
Now isn't it strange and random that someone who did it had to be her ?
I mean there would a lot of people trying to do that... but still noone attempted to.
Also The way Hagoromo was speaking about his mother bring some possible hints for her reasons:
You must be registered for see images
^^ I wonder if Kaguya was normal woman with status of princess or was she the goddess as her son discribed her. If she was the eariler then it makes sense but if she was the latter then Shouldn't she be able to stop the wars by herself, unless she split her powers creating forbidden fruit which could be trated as trophy and size of it shown how much good people has done.., yeah seems farfetched.
Anyway I believe the trigger which caused her to took Forbidden fruit and ate it was loss of her lover one due to wars occuring at that times. It is also possible that she was pregnant at that time so she was unable to do anything besides watching the horror of other wifes loosing their's loved ones. After Kaguya stopped the wars the peace came for some time. Kaguya was caring and warm goddess for everyone... then something changed her.
I believe Hagoromo and Hamura spreading Chakra with people was annoying to her but her good side was still stronger in her. However the moment:
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The fights become even more goursome also possible people harming nature in way or using it to selfish reasons and keep wars going on caused Kaguya to break to her bad side and God Tree's desire to regain all the chakra so Kaguya merged with it and that Juubi come in existence.
Juubi went at rampage trying to regain all spreaded chakra from humans killing them in process. Hagoromo and Hamura didn't like it so they stopped it. Now there is two possibilities:
- Kaguya was angry at her sons and found out them on her own trying to take chakra from them
or
- Hamura and Hagoromo were stopping Juubi on their own, seeking for her.
In the end it is also question that if Kaguya giving birth was forced to her or it was her will to give birth. If the first then it explains that she wanted them none existent and chakra back to her. If the latter as Hagoromo implied then rather She got angry at them later and decided to stop them from spreading any more chakra by killing him.
Fixing Kaguya's fight based on CANNON
Actually the battle against Kaguya with skipping character development was pretty good until chapter 685 with chapter 685 included. I really enjoyed reading that battle in manga. The idea to separate them was very clever and it would be even better if it came from Kaguya herself.
From now on, Kaguya first should go to strike Sasuke to give him one vs one battle, but clearly Kishi wanted to avoid showing Sasuke's skills and full arsenal preserving it for Naruto vs Sasuke battle.
Then later Kaguya would come back and test Naruto after beating Sasuke badly leaving him alive as she was only testing them. While Kaguya fought against Naruto as in cannon, with Kaguya haiving upperhand all the time Obito would go with Sakura to retirve Sasuke.
Then it was again good until Kaguya was forced to use Gravity dimenssion as it shouldn't affect her so she would look supperior and boss.
Then it would come as in original with Sasuke and Naruto showing more skills againt Kaguya, then her monster form until end of 688 chapter.
689 chapter should be completly rewritten. First Kakashi shouldn't be able to hurt Kaguya, even if then it would be minor damage creating opportunity for Naruto and Sasuke to try to seal her, but they would fail for some reason.
Kaguya would felt once danger so she would get so mad to finally instead of creating dimenssion use Giant TSB to wipe out her dimenssiona along with them imploding it as Obito did in past or to use Juubidama planet level.
Somehow Team 7 get upperhand after Hagoromo released IT, so Kaguya would get sealed and I would be fine with it, just 3 chapters more.
In the end she should went away with bang like Kid Buu, Aizen.
From now on, Kaguya first should go to strike Sasuke to give him one vs one battle, but clearly Kishi wanted to avoid showing Sasuke's skills and full arsenal preserving it for Naruto vs Sasuke battle.
Then later Kaguya would come back and test Naruto after beating Sasuke badly leaving him alive as she was only testing them. While Kaguya fought against Naruto as in cannon, with Kaguya haiving upperhand all the time Obito would go with Sakura to retirve Sasuke.
Then it was again good until Kaguya was forced to use Gravity dimenssion as it shouldn't affect her so she would look supperior and boss.
Then it would come as in original with Sasuke and Naruto showing more skills againt Kaguya, then her monster form until end of 688 chapter.
689 chapter should be completly rewritten. First Kakashi shouldn't be able to hurt Kaguya, even if then it would be minor damage creating opportunity for Naruto and Sasuke to try to seal her, but they would fail for some reason.
Kaguya would felt once danger so she would get so mad to finally instead of creating dimenssion use Giant TSB to wipe out her dimenssiona along with them imploding it as Obito did in past or to use Juubidama planet level.
Somehow Team 7 get upperhand after Hagoromo released IT, so Kaguya would get sealed and I would be fine with it, just 3 chapters more.
In the end she should went away with bang like Kid Buu, Aizen.
Flaws about Kaguya :
- BZ's betrayal should be postponned until Juubi Jin Madara is finally defeated by both Naruto and Sasuke to the point he was unable to react to BZ's attempt. Later Naruto and Sasuke would be drained so Edo Hokage would fight against Kaguya to buy some time for Naruto and Sasuke to regain their chakra
- Later Kaguya would transport everyone to other dimenssion without Edo Hokage, leaving them to meet Hagoromo's ghost
- BZ should be absorbed inside Kaguya and she would be the one speaking
- Black Zetsu's purpouse was futile as the Whole recording all battles by him to help Kaguya make her fight more smart was complelty Omitted/forgotten by Kishi. Also Black Zetsu as her will should be never more in spotlight then Kaguya's herself as I said
- Kaguya should test first Sasuke then Naruto fighting one vs one.
- Kaguya should have upperhand all the time bringing danger to readers for safety of Naruto and Sasuke
- Immortality concept was one which make it much harder for Kishi to draw awesome battle[look Frieeza, look Cell, look kid buu, look Aizen] noone of them were immortal and still they have done great job.
- Kaguya after recieving power up should bring all her powers to use, TSB, Onmyoudon, KKG, KKT, all chakra natures combination, All doujutsu powers, some strategy maybe and of course Juubidama at the end.
- Naruto vs Sasuke battle should have no place until time skip so it wouldn't foreshadowed battle against Kaguya as KIshi was forced to held them back resulting helding back Kaguya so she won't stomp them.
In the end Rushing the manga and being afraid to killing suspense with Naruto and Sasuke skils when it comes to Naruto vs Sasuke battle were the greatest reasons Kishi has done so poorly and made crap.
Also Black Zetsu recording Shinobi battles should increase Kaguya's battle smartness and fighting style instead it has do nothing in opposite to Buu who was learning from all the battle he has done until Kid buu could make use of that expierience fighting battle smart.
Thanks for reading !
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