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Hi Guys,



Here are some theories that i have regarding some of the events in One Piece, since i hate a complicated intro, i will just dive right in, [feel free to correct me whenever, look at this as a give and take thread, i also want you to understand i am not trying to pass off opinion as fact, just a theory]



Please take your time when reading, and jump in with your thoughts.







1. DressRosa the Ancient Kingdom:





The island of the current arc, is the first ''Kingdom'' of the new world.



Looking at it like that, let us compare it to the 1st ''Kingdom'' we came across in the grand line: The Kingdom of Alabasta





Similarities:

  • Alabasta and Dressrosa were both run/ruled by a Shichibukai
  • Aalabasta and Dressrosa are homes to ancient families that can be connected to the void century





Now as we know the Donquixote family ruled over the land of Dressrosa at least as much as 900 years ago, how do we know this:



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This was mentioned by the Tontatta's, who also mentioned how they were persecuted under them.



This is quite interesting, if the Donquixote family were presiding over the land of Dressrosa so long ago, why did Doflamingo have to concoct a plan to overthrow the King [King Riku], who was ruling at the time?



What happened to the Donquixote family?



Donquixote Family:



As mentioned, the Don family ruled Dressrosa and persecuted the Tontatta's 900 years ago.



During the next 100 years , a crucial part of One Piece occurred.......THE VOID CENTURY



This leads me to the Don family and what happened during that century.





Professor Clover of the Late Ohara Kingdom mentioned the following:



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This ties in well with what Doflamingo said in this current arc:



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Based on this information, I speculate the following:



The Donquixote family during the void century joined the 19 other nations and formed the World Government.



During this Void century they were at war with the Un-named Kingdom.



Towards the end of the war, the family joined the other families, [except the Nefertari family], at Mariejois, leaving Dressrosa rulerless.



Soon after that period, the Riku family came to become rulers of the land of Dressrosa :
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Now, 10 years ago Doflamingo apparently came back to get his ''Rightful'' land as it belonged to his family to begin with



Now i know what you are thinking, all of these is either well known information, or already speculated



I agree, however i believe Doflamingo, did not just come to Dressrosa to just to rule and carry on to fund his underground persona, because the land was his families, i believe there is an underlying reason...............A Poneglyph







As I began this section of my theory discussion, i wrote the similarities between Alabasta and Dressrosa.



Another similarity that will occur , [IMO], is the discovery of a Poneglyph.





This brings me to the next part of this Dressrosa theory, GREEN BIT.







Green Bit, The Tontatta, Noland & Skypiea:





Green bit is the island adjacent to Dressrosa, funnily enough this is a Spring Island:



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I specifically boxed both Green Bit and Jaya as i believe they are related.



Let me go on.





In chapter 713, we saw that the Tontatta's had a statue of Montblanc Norland, and they went on to briefly explain why:
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Now i won't insult your intelligence regarding Norland and who he is and where he went, so i will move on.





Please take a look at the following picture:
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and also :
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I would also like you to remember one of the features of 'Upper Yard' , [which was a part of Jaya, prior to being knocked up into the sky], was that plants grew to an excessive size, which is almost exactly like:



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I know what you are thinking, ''Is he really insinuating what i think he is?'', yes.....yes i am.







Please note the following , hypothesised timeline:









900+ Years Ago - Donquixote Family are the current rulers of Dressrosa, Tontatta's live there also and are persecuted





Void Century Occurs





800 Years ago - World Government is formed. Donquixote family moves to Mariejois leaving Dressrosa. During this period the Riku family come into power in Dressrosa and amends relationships with the Tontatta's





400 Years ago - Montblanc Norland comes across Green Bit, around this time Montblanc Norland also comes across Jaya.



During his time on Green Bit, he protects the Tontatta from Humans who were ravaging their land.



During this time Norland also helped Calgara and his people to survive a fatal disease



During this Period Jaya was shot into the sky









This timeline is very interesting, particularly the period relating to Norland.



I say so because i believe the following: GREEN BIT IS THE ''SECOND EYE SOCKET'' ADJACENT TO SHANDORA:







I make this connection based on the following:



  • Green Bit is separate to Dressrosa itself
  • It's topography and plant life mirror 'Upper Yard'
  • The statue of Norland and the time of his apperance there coincide with his visit to Jaya
  • Bellamy was shown to have gone to Skypiea and retrieved a ''Gold Rod''
  • The actual island of Green Bit matches with the original shape of Jaya







Now, you may be wondering, ''if this is true, it is a nice find, but how does this affect the current arc''





This leads me to what i mentioned earlier: A PONEGLYPH







PONEGLYPH:



Doflamingo came 10 years ago to take back his families land.



However i believe this was a lie, and he carries a secret motive.





Doflamingo is a celestial, and a shichibukai however i believe that this all falls behind his commitment to his family and the World Government.



In my opinion, he specifically came to Dressrosa as his family, [or the Gorosei], are under the impression that there is a Poneglyph there, [the knowledge in regards to Green bit being a part of Jaya is with them also].



A funny coincidence is how Doffy repeatedly offered Crocodile, [a shichibukai who is after one of the ancient weapons and had his hands on a Poneglyph a chance to join him]



Is it also coincidental that Robin, the one person who can read the Poneglyphs was with Usopp when they were trapped by the Tontatta and has formed a relationship with them



All the information that oda has presented in this arc leads me to believe that another part of the Void century will be revealed to us via the Poneglyph, as well as a hint to the location and type of weapon Uranus is



and this Poneglyph is with the Tontatta in green Bit





End of Dressrosa theory



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2. Raftel:





This theory is a lot shorter than my previous theory, however please also take time to read.







Originally a special location was hinted at in the opening chapter, by Gol.D.Roger regarding where he left his ''Treasure/s'':



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Going through the story we have discovered what this place is :



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or rather ''Raftel''





We know that their are certain conditions for Raftel to be reached, one of which is the use of the Poneglyphs as guides:



It is also said that upon reaching Raftel, if one has taken with them along their journey the passages of the Poneglyphs, then the Rio Poneglyph will finally be revealed





This answers the question why the WG who are able to use a Buster Call on an island, has not destroyed the Island already.





HOWEVER.........i believe there is another reason why the Island is difficult to locate, please read on.





Looking at the map of the world in the OP-verse:

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We can assume if Raftel is the final destination of the journey a crew will embark on the Grand Line, that it is at the end of the new world, right?


This is where one of the other conditions I believe come into play, let me explain.



Raftel is not a stationary Island:

As the title says i believe one of the multiple reasons it is difficult to locate Raftel, is that it moves.

The hint is in the title of the island: RAFTel , [before you blow me off, please keep reading]


Rafts, are a transportation device that ''floats'', or ''drifts'' through the water. In this partciaular case it is an Island

On top of this, the Island is alive, yes ALIVE


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One of the things besides the Poneglyphs which helped Roger, was his ability to ''Hear the Voice of all things'':

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Once Roger was able to find the location of Raftel, he was able to hear the Island it self, and i believe his ability developed to the point he could communicate also.


This would aid him in communicating with Raftel itself.

Enabling him to be able to request the Island to appear.


Funnily enough someone else has been hinted at having this ability:

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That's right Luffy, [the sea kings were reminded by Luffy of Roger who had the same ability].




Thats my two cents on the whole thing

it's all theory end of the day, and i do not try and pass off my opnions as fact, thats for the manga to prove and disprove.

What are your opnions?

Thanks for reading
 

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Well I love the idea of Green Bit being the missing part of Jaya bro. Really love it ^^
But when it comes to the Poenglyph the first 'Kingdom' we met in the New World was Fishman Island, where there was also a reveal of a Poneglyph so.... the reason behind that part of your theory has been dissolved.

And I like the rest of the sesond part of the theory, I want it to be true but seems unlikely aha XD
 

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Good shit bro I'm buying into it considering most of it is based of hypothesis...my opinion is DD is trying to become PK and control the NW with a 500 artificial Zoan army...and he needs a Poneglyph to achieve that....
 

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Well I love the idea of Green Bit being the missing part of Jaya bro. Really love it ^^
But when it comes to the Poenglyph the first 'Kingdom' we met in the New World was Fishman Island, where there was also a reveal of a Poneglyph so.... the reason behind that part of your theory has been dissolved.

And I like the rest of the sesond part of the theory, I want it to be true but seems unlikely aha XD
Thanks dude!

Good shit bro I'm buying into it considering most of it is based of hypothesis...my opinion is DD is trying to become PK and control the NW with a 500 artificial Zoan army...and he needs a Poneglyph to achieve that....
That would be crazy, however i think Doflamingo couldn't care less about a PK status
 

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i agree was thinking the same thing with th voice but not a turtle island like naruto.
so what are the 3 old weapons
1 mermaid princess talks to sea kings
2 ? 3?
i think roger got the other 2
cause of what was said during the war about luffy surviving the war can coming back to throw down 800 years of history in front of the marines.

i like the therory about nobles moving together making wg and taking out most powerful country and forming the lines in the ocean prob with df
and d is the old leaders family line.
 

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Great job dude! Very enjoyable theory,Green Bit being a part of Jaya, now that eould spice things up, especially the poneglyph (maybe the other half of the one from Skypiea), which could lead us more info of the void century, Will of D, and more info on Roger I presume!

I concur with the Raftel part, sounds more plausible than the theory that t's located on the Moon.

*Throws some rep!*
 

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>I don't think bellamy has anything to do with anything.
>Even if green bit is a part of jaya how the hell did it get to new world?
>Assuming that skypiea managed to float somehow to NW , if it fell down then tontattas must have been squashed by the pressure.
>The tontattas know donquixote family from 900 years implying dressrosa and green bit have been near each other since 900 years , which pretty much completely destroys your theory.
>Assuming the tonttats actually lived in dressrosa before green bit came there , it was said by them that they were the ones to grow those big ass plants which destroys your upper yard relation.
 

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i agree was thinking the same thing with th voice but not a turtle island like naruto.
so what are the 3 old weapons
1 mermaid princess talks to sea kings
2 ? 3?
i think roger got the other 2
cause of what was said during the war about luffy surviving the war can coming back to throw down 800 years of history in front of the marines.

i like the therory about nobles moving together making wg and taking out most powerful country and forming the lines in the ocean prob with df
and d is the old leaders family line.
Actually pluton is the second ancient weapon which is a battleship . Franky had it's blueprints which he burnt during enies lobby arc , have you even seen one piece?
 
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ya doesnt mean i know eveything and the page it happened on. dont see you saying the 3rd. plus dont think its a ship but a weapon on a ship like say sunnys. and when did fanky have the plans in his hand never it was said they thought tom had them because he was one of the only people capable of building it. and guess in the void century they built it there. I think tom and vega punk are prisoners together yes prisoners together where was he when lufy was in the prison. that is why vega punk help the strawhats by installing the program in kuma to protect the sunny. plus if its a weapon it will need a boat made of atom tree to support it."sunny"
 

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ya doesnt mean i know eveything and the page it happened on. dont see you saying the 3rd. plus dont think its a ship but a weapon on a ship like say sunnys. and when did fanky have the plans in his hand never it was said they thought tom had them because he was one of the only people capable of building it. and guess in the void century they built it there. I think tom and vega punk are prisoners together yes prisoners together where was he when lufy was in the prison. that is why vega punk help the strawhats by installing the program in kuma to protect the sunny. plus if its a weapon it will need a boat made of atom tree to support it."sunny"
I could have gone and looked for the page but i thought this was better. here watch franky burning the blueprints at the beginning.

[video=youtube;k6rKkz8X0GE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6rKkz8X0GE[/video]
 
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