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I've read in several places that Uchiha Kagami could possibly be behind the mask of Tobi, hiding his existence with Madara's name.

Now hearing many theories about both, they both make sense however there is way more backstory of why it would really be Madara.

But when you compare the hair that you can see on Tobi's head, it does resemble Kagami's.
And it makes a lot of sense, i will give you a post i found the other day to elaborate, i dont remember his name but he said this and it made alot of sense.


"Tobi is uchiha kagami.
The body in the 6th coffin is not madara, but instead, uchiha obito!!!!!!!!!
Why do i believe this? We need someone who has a deep grudge against konoha and is still alive today. Given the status on his face, the wrinkles, etc. I would assume tobi is old, nearly as old as danzo and hiruzen. Given that factor, i would assume it is someone around their age, just like uchiha kagami.
I believe kagami and obito are father and son. Yes, i do believe that truly. Why do i believe that? We have been informed that all mangekyou sharingans are unique, each with different powers. Not all ms users will have ameterasu, tsukoyomi and susanoo. What we have learned as well was that siblings appear to share similar powers in the ms. Sasuke and itachi both are capable of using the 3 mentioned above. So what's the point of that? Kakashi, he's the link. Tobi can use a space time jutsu that derives from his eye, his right eye. Kakashi can do the same but only on objects other then himself and from his left eye. The techniques are similar, possibly meaning that obito and tobi(kagami) are blood relatives, aka father and son. If this theory is true, it could also mean a possible reason to how kagami came up with the alias of tobi.
Where does this lead?
Kagami had already suffered the loss of not just a close person, but a son, one whom he mourns for still today. Given the fact kagami was the third member of hiruzen and danzo's group, this could prove that the 3, hiruzen, danzo and kagami were all close friends. When danzo and the elders agreed to have the uchiha clan eliminated, it could have been possible that danzo and/or hiruzen told kagami to flee, but i think a different reason came to be below.
During this time, kagami could have already been feeling remorse, pain or grudge against the leaf village. One of the reasons was due to the death of his son obito whom should have been in good hands under the 4th hokage. Hearing his death, kagami might have concluded that the 4th might have used obito as a decoy or some expendable pawn. But there could have been a chance he was already upset from before this after losing to hiruzen to become hokage.
What i find more believable is that kagami left the village and became a rogue ninja after obito's death, wanting to exact his revenge. After failing to destroy konoha with the fox, he soon found out via itachi that danzo, hiruzen and the elders wanted itachi to eliminate the uchihas, furthering his rage. But he also found out that itachi and the others believed that he was none other then uchiha madara after the 4th's speculation before he died. After hearing this, kagami officially picked up the new alias of uchiha madara to hide his existence.
Uchiha obito, not a very strong character vs the almighty tobi! But why was tobi so easily stopped by the coffin? Just as sasuke loves his older brother, tobi(kagami) loves his son to much to fight him, but instead, find a way to save him from kabuto.
Now here's the conclusion!
Kishi stated in an interview that tobi/madara(kagami) will not be the main villain, but rather lead up to the real main villain. Kagami is way to powerful, who could possibly stop him? The answer is kakashi. Kagami does not know that the sharingan kakashi has is obito's. Kakashi will tell tobi the truth on obito's death, how it came to be, how he put his life on the line to save kakashi and the girl he loved, rin. The confusion could do 1 of two things. It could unlikely stop tobi's rage against konoha and he'll leave in peace or help stop sasuke whom i think will become the main villain. The other option is that the confusion will open up a gap, a timing that kakashi or someone else needed to stop tobi once and for all.
This is my belief on the storyline at the moment haha, hope you all understand it!"
 

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This all makes perfectly good sense I might even change my mind about wo is truly behind the mask. Also the Rage he feels would definatley be enough to turn on his own village. Sasuke will more than likely become the main villian at some point leaving plenty of room for a lot more of the story.
 

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Kagami does not know that the sharingan kakashi has is obito's. [/I]


Nice theory however this isnt true.
Kakashi once wanted to use Kamui on Tobi, but before he did that Tobi said "Dont even bother to try this, jutsus like this wont work on me". So if he really is Kagami than he already knows that Kakashi has Obitos MS.

But from where does he know about Kamui? He never encountered it. There are 2 ways:

1. He really is Kagami/the father of Obito.
2. Deidara/someone else from Akatsuki told him about Kamui.
 

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Nice theory however this isnt true.
Kakashi once wanted to use Kamui on Tobi, but before he did that Tobi said "Dont even bother to try this, jutsus like this wont work on me". So if he really is Kagami than he already knows that Kakashi has Obitos MS.

But from where does he know about Kamui? He never encountered it. There are 2 ways:

1. He really is Kagami/the father of Obito.
2. Deidara/someone else from Akatsuki told him about Kamui.
This may be true, but i just posted somebody's theory. Good point though
 
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