Discussion; Does Madara have Amaterasu?

[Hell Autarch]

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This was on Naruto.wikia.com ^^^^

It clearly states that Uchiha Madara awakened his Susanoo as a result of awakening Amaterasu and Tsukoyumi.

 

[Draphsin]

Good point there I agree but anyways ur telling me I should read all 627 chapters to regain information lol don't be stupid I use wiki as a quick source I know it's not always accurate but it still seems legit LOL

No im not suggesting you reread all the chapters

You can go to the wiki, but only refer to the citations (example of naruto's citations/references:

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) . Those are the only real sources of information, anything else thats put into the wiki is usually fan made assumptions.

 

[Hell Autarch]

The Wikia is actually a better source of information than the manga.

Naruto has completed 16 official missions in total: 7 D-rank, 1 C-rank, 2 B-rank, 6 A-rank, 0 S-rank.

I am pretty sure that half of you didn't even know the above.

 

[Draphsin]

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Cant see your scan. It says something about stealing

lol oh...

Go to naruto chapter 464 page 16

Thats the page i posted and it ways that you only need both mangekyou sharingan to awaken susanoo

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

lol show me a scan of madara hinting towards having ama/tsukuyomi??

Fact of the matter is that anybody who disagrees only has an outdated databook to refer to. While theres plenty of proof implying that he never had and never will have it.

Personally, Idc if he has it, I'm just stating what I know. According to your logic, not hinting to it is equivalent to not having it?

And for the record, I understand your point.

LUL You"re making things up!, it would have never ruined the series, it would simply states masked man like the manga did before 599,
TWO. sasuke never said amaterasu and tsukiyomi, he simply said two mangekyo's DO the Math, every sharingan has a special move not every uchiha can have what sasuke and itachi does

I don't recall making anything up lol. I'm just stating facts.

Amaterasu & Tsukiyomi are two Mangekyou Sharingan techs. One in one eye, on in the other. So, what exactly did I make up?

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

I see your point. The databook was referring to Itachi's Susano'o, as his was the only one shown at that time. Much of it's information is indeed outdated. (Izuna anyone?) Sasuke even said what was required was the double Mangekyo. Either way, until we see his two MS techniques, we can't say he has them or not, plus, to use Mugen Tsukuyomi requires Tsukuyomi right? So let's not jump to conclusions and say that he can or can't, though it does seem that can likely use Tsukuyomi.

Nicely said.

 

[Draphsin]

It clearly states that Uchiha Madara awakened his Susanoo as a result of awakening Amaterasu and Tsukoyumi.

:sy:

It doesnt have a citation or reference, Go to my post #42 and check out my lesson in acquiring information.

The Wikia is actually a better source of information than the manga.

Naruto has completed 16 official missions in total: 7 D-rank, 1 C-rank, 2 B-rank, 6 A-rank, 0 S-rank.

I am pretty sure that half of you didn't even know the above.

All of that information is cited and can be referenced back to the manga. Madara awakening susanoo because of ama/tsukuyomi is not referenced in the manga, therefore it doesnt have a citation

*Lesson over

 

[P3ĮÑ]

The Wikia is actually a better source of information than the manga.

Naruto has completed 16 official missions in total: 7 D-rank, 1 C-rank, 2 B-rank, 6 A-rank, 0 S-rank.

I am pretty sure that half of you didn't even know the above.

Yes I agree the wiki is reliable place for information coz I don't want to open up a manga page and predict what the hell the dude meant by that, I'm not saying I don't use the manga for information I'm just saying wiki makes the job fast 's all =D

 

[Waltz]

Think of it this way; If Madara didn't have Amaterasu, he wouldn't have unlocked Susano'o being the 3rd and final technique of the Mangekyou.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Personally, Idc if he has it, I'm just stating what I know. According to your logic, not hinting to it is equivalent to not having it?

And for the record, I understand your point.


I don't recall making anything up lol. I'm just stating facts.

Amaterasu & Tsukiyomi are two Mangekyou Sharingan techs. One in one eye, on in the other. So, what exactly did I make up?

Saying amaterasu and tsukiyomi are techniques in both eyes which means their must be needed, no it does not, sasuke never said you needed amaterasu and tsukiyomi, all he said was two eyes, you should know by now as i stated sharingan eyes are special, not every uchiha can do each other moves, even madara susanoo looks different from sasuke and itachi'S own

 

[Draphsin]

Personally, Idc if he has it, I'm just stating what I know. According to your logic, not hinting to it is equivalent to not having it?

And for the record, I understand your point.

Hey, if manga pulls ama/tsukuyomi out of madara's ass after

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then i wouldnt know what to think anymore....

Think of it this way; If Madara didn't have Amaterasu, he wouldn't have unlocked Susano'o being the 3rd and final technique of the Mangekyou.

How can it be the final technique of the mangekyou if ama and tsukuyomi are required?

That would only mean that susanoo is the final power of ama/tsukuyomi, and not just the eyes themselves.

 

[ahmher]

maybe maybe not who know

 

[-Raviel-]

To all those who still have doubts about this go read the damn databooks.

 

[BazzBee]

He has it but doesn't even care about it cause he has way better jutsus

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[Draphsin]

To all those who still have doubts about this go read the damn databooks.

You mean the outdated databooks.....?...

He has it but doesn't even care about it cause he has way better jutsus

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He has a better genjutsu that tsukuyomi......?....Then why didnt he use it here??

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[Waltz]

How can it be the final technique of the mangekyou if ama and tsukuyomi are required?

That would only mean that susanoo is the final power of ama/tsukuyomi, and not just the eyes themselves.

The techniques themselves are not prior stages of Susano'o; the user must have unlocked both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi before Susanoo surfaces:

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[Draphsin]

The techniques themselves are not prior stages of Susano'o; the user must have unlocked both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi before Susanoo surfaces:

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That scan doesnt even prove that itachi awakened susanoo because of those techniques. Itachi awakened susanoo along with ama/tsukuy, not because of them.

Your logic dictaies that susanoo is the product of the eye techniques (without them, susanoo cant be activated, therefore susanoo is a product of ama/tsuku) and not the eyes themselves, but that directly contradicts the scan i posted where sasuke states that susanoo is the product of the mangekyou, and not the mangekyou techniques.

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[Demonic Kitsune]

No

You dont need ama and tsukuyomi for susanoo, you are also correct to think that the databook is outdated.

He's demonstrated nothing that relates to either ama or tsukuyomi...

yay finally someone agrees with me...thought i do think he has tsukuyomi =)

 

[Demonic Kitsune]

Yes he does its was stated in the data book that u need both ameterasu and tsukuyomi to awaken susanoo, that's why currently only 3 people have susanoo. itachi, sasuke, madara. Obito also has tsukuyomi but he doesn't have ameterasu that's why he couldn't awaken susanoo

i have to disagree...obito doesnt have a susanoo becuase he doesnt have 2 eyes...madara stated you need both eyes to unlock its full potention...hence susano..

 

[Waltz]

That scan doesnt even prove that itachi awakened susanoo because of those techniques. Itachi awakened susanoo along with ama/tsukuy, not because of them.

Your logic dictaies that susanoo is the product of the eye techniques (without them, susanoo cant be activated, therefore susanoo is a product of ama/tsuku) and not the eyes themselves, but that directly contradicts the scan i posted where sasuke states that susanoo is the product of the mangekyou, and not the mangekyou techniques.

Are you unaware of the definition of "final''? Anyway, Sasuke's statement is merely a regurgitation of Itachi's (note Third Power):

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It no where implies that "just having a double Mangekyou" grants you access to Susano'o as Uchiha such as Shisui maintained a Double Mangekyou and didn't have Susano'o. Sasuke also could not have used Susano'o before showing use of

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which is in accordance with the Databook which states that the user must have unlocked both before unlocking the 3rd particulary, being 'Susano'o'.