Discrimination of people based on political/idealogical beliefs

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For those that haven't heard,last Friday a group called the Honey Badgers were kicked out of the CalgaryExpo and are banned for life from all conventions held in Canada.

Now why were they banned you may ask?Because they answered a question regarding MRAs during a feminist comic book panel that the panelists politely allowed.

Certain sites and the CalgaryExpo have claimed the Honey Badgers were being disruptive but that lie falls apart quickly when you listen to the audio released by the group themselves.

In my and many people's opinion they were banned due to their political beliefs,something that is being staunchly defended by those that claim to be "progressive and inclusive".

If anyone wants the full story there's a vid on their youtube channel that breaks it down in detail and includes the audio clip from the panel.

And this isn't the only story of blatant discrimination based on politics,if anyone has kept up with the story regarding the Hugo awards a clique of people launched a all out smear campaign against a group of authors and publications called the Sad Puppies.

Once again this is because that clique kept authors and publishers with the 'wrong opinions' from being nominated,something that the Sad Puppies wanted to change by taking away the votes from the clique and putting it towards the general public.

Is this where society is coming to?Where those that preach about being progressive and inclusive engage in group think and discriminate against people who have beliefs/opinions they don't like?

And this behavior is being taught in colleges and universities across America as well,with the growing idea of 'safe spaces' and coddling.

So what does everyone think about this?
 
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A couple of problems with this story
A) The audio clip was released by them
B) It's audio not video
C) Why were they recording in the first place if they were not plaining on starting trouble to get the audio clip

They sound like hecklers with a political objective to me
 

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As not nice as it is, sometimes it would preferable.

This is is because some people "have beliefs" (I.e. Baseless assumptions fed to them) that are regressive to the development of society. It's easier to see this point if you're living in the UK, especially now with the upsurge of UKIP - a political party whose ideology would have us regress all the way back to the Industrial Revolution - demonising homosexuality and immigrants, stripping away human rights and reinvigorating sexism to its former peak... Amongst other things.
 

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Yes. Basically if you can scream oppression and people believe it, you're allowed to have fascist views. That's put into as few words as possible, but is the general idea. Knee-jerk reactions keep ideologies like this alive and their members easily manipulated.

And being at a University personally, so many kids here have the most backwards, group-think mentalities that would support something like this.

Tl;dr: It's 'might makes right' all over again. The only difference is that social capital is worth so much more now than it was before the internet and social media.
 

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They sound like hecklers with a political objective to me
Well no CalgExpo has it in for them ... they later on organized a picnic public park near the venue and Expo called the cops on them. (the Cops found no behavior that required their attention).

PS Many people record their interactions during events, just in case for events like this.
 

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A couple of problems with this story
A) The audio clip was released by them
B) It's audio not video
C) Why were they recording in the first place if they were not plaining on starting trouble to get the audio clip

They sound like hecklers with a political objective to me
The same reason why someone would record something if they suspect there's gonna be trouble.

They even admitted to predicting this kind of response which is why there's audio evidence just in case the CalgaryExpo came up with some BS lie;which they did.

And if politely asking to answer a question is considered heckling now,then nobody should bother having conversations ever.
 
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As not nice as it is, sometimes it would preferable.

This is is because some people "have beliefs" (I.e. Baseless assumptions fed to them) that are regressive to the development of society. It's easier to see this point if you're living in the UK, especially now with the upsurge of UKIP - a political party whose ideology would have us regress all the way back to the Industrial Revolution - demonising homosexuality and immigrants, stripping away human rights and reinvigorating sexism to its former peak... Amongst other things.
And if one day a group decides your beliefs/opinions are 'regressive' to the point of attempting to blacklist you from job opportunities or other venues?

Would you still say the same then?
 

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The same reason why someone would record something if they suspect there's gonna be trouble.

They even admitted to predicting this kind of response which is why there's audio evidence just in case the CalgaryExpo came up with some BS lie;which they did.

And if politely asking to answer a question is considered heckling now,then nobody should bother having conversations ever.
I still have the same opinion, unless this was an actual debate meeting.

Couple of things

What is the CalgaryExpo?

Who are this Honey Badger anyway? In brief.
 

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Why is this important?
How we as a society respond to the extreme social media movements and overall whether we pander to the power of the loudest masses or actually make good decisions. A lot of people are really sick of the double standards of extreme movements such as modern feminism, this is the chance to say something and make an example.
 

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And if one day a group decides your beliefs/opinions are 'regressive' to the point of attempting to blacklist you from job opportunities or other venues?

Would you still say the same then?
I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where creating equality and moving forwards was a backwards way of thinking. The simple truth is that some people are stubborn, gullible or stupid - or worse, a mixture of the three. These people present a threat through their ignorance; to allow them to instill influence and ideas into people's minds and systems is to be toxic.

Many things in life aren't black and white; this being one of them. Almost ironically, what is black and white (generally), is the aforementioned concept of people's personalities and traits and how it affects their environment.

And this his isn't down to opinions or beliefs... it's just cold facts. The only/best people to make decisions are the ones in possession of the facts, of whom also lack partiality so the best routes can be taken. This is a matter of free speech and dare I say it, political correctness. People should always be allowed to say what they want provided it doesn't harm anybody or anything but on the flip side, people shouldn't speak unless they're informed on whatever they're speaking about. It is only when two informed parties engage in discussion that deeper elements of belief may prevail.
 
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