DimLord Urza
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For a while now, I've been seeing people that say Madara is greater than Obito in terms of strength and would easily
crush him in a one on one.
However, this may not necessarily be true.
I'll try my best to analyze the strengths and weaknesses of both, and then conclude on a final outcome if they ever
fought.
(Keep in mind this is Edo Madara and Rinne Obito that I am comparing.)
Madara Uchiha
Abilities: Madara possesses a wide range of jutsus, and garners a rather incomparable potential of contending as one of the strongest shinobi currently standing. In regards to ocular strength, he possesses the rinnegan; allotting him for use of the six paths. He also retains the well-reputed tsukuyomi. In terms of other techniques, he possesses wood-based attacks such as the wooden dragon, wood clones, and to top it all off: a perfect Susanoo.
More characteristics: Madara musters himself an advantage in terms of experience and overall strength. He hasn't necessarily shown efficiency in speed, but that is up for debate. At the moment, Madara's high point comes in sheer power, not agility. This power is complemented with the integration of Senju DNA. With an incredible range of defensive and offensive jutsus, Madara is the last person that any shinobi would want to come across.
Obito Uchiha
Abilities: Obito possesses skill in both fire and space/time techniques. Combining both for a powerful, united attack. In regards to ocular strength, Obito possesses both the mangekyou sharingan and the rinnegan. Like Madara, Obito's techniques are enhanced by the implementation of Senju DNA. Obito's strongest technique is arguably kamui, granting him a perfect route of escape and a perfect cover for attack. He is also reputed to retain some rinnegan techniques, but it is unknown how strong or how many he can perform with the quantity of only one rinnegan.
Other characteristics: All around, Obito fights in a defensive manner, waiting for the opportunity to strike. His intelligence grants him a good advantage, and his use of kamui should be feared. In terms of strength, Obito's strength lies in waiting and seizing, rather than smashing and crushing. These traits could be better off in some fights, and worse in others.
So, how would the fight turn out?: All in all, I see Madara holding an advantage here. Although, Obito would not go down quite easily as you would think. Obito's concern here is avoiding Madara's godly attacks. The perfect solution for that is none other than kamui. You might say that Madara has a possible counter for that if he possesses space/time ninjutsu, but for all intents and purposes, I'm going to say he doesn't until he shows it. It may be an assumption, but it is a reasonable one to make for now.
A main question here is whether or not Madara's preta path can absorb a kamui. The answer? Probably. If Obito kamuis himself from a distance, Madara cannot do anything to Obito until he comes back.
How does this work?
1. The jutsu activates. During this phase I see it plausible for Madara to absorb it if he is in range.
2. The jutsu interacts with the spacial and time constructed configuration of reality. Madara has to act fast.
3. Obito teleports himself to another dimension. The jutsu is still active but Madara can no longer interact with
Obito unless he himself goes to that dimension.
4. Obito can't do anything to Madara unless he goes back to the normal dimension.
If Obito tries to attack Madara with a kamui, I simply cannot see it working. There is too much of a time gap for Madara not to react. Also, Madara could probably absorb the attack upon immediate activation on him.
The way I see the fight going: Obito absolutely has no barring on Madara in actual offensive techniques besides kamui. Obito would be unable to use kamui on Madara because Madara could absorb it upon activation. Therefore, Obito would be forced to kamui himself, pray to God for about 10 minutes, and run away. Keeping in mind of Obito's intelligence, he would be aware that Madara is too strong for him currently. He would probably retreat in acknowledgement. This is how I see the fight going. If he didn't retreat, Madara would obviously defeat him.
EDIT: Read Exaar's point. Minato with FTG barely escaped Obito's warping. This has me questioning how fast Madara really would be able to react. Therefore, I'm going to call the winner Obito on the basis of simple reaction time.
crush him in a one on one.
However, this may not necessarily be true.
I'll try my best to analyze the strengths and weaknesses of both, and then conclude on a final outcome if they ever
fought.
(Keep in mind this is Edo Madara and Rinne Obito that I am comparing.)
Madara Uchiha
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Abilities: Madara possesses a wide range of jutsus, and garners a rather incomparable potential of contending as one of the strongest shinobi currently standing. In regards to ocular strength, he possesses the rinnegan; allotting him for use of the six paths. He also retains the well-reputed tsukuyomi. In terms of other techniques, he possesses wood-based attacks such as the wooden dragon, wood clones, and to top it all off: a perfect Susanoo.
More characteristics: Madara musters himself an advantage in terms of experience and overall strength. He hasn't necessarily shown efficiency in speed, but that is up for debate. At the moment, Madara's high point comes in sheer power, not agility. This power is complemented with the integration of Senju DNA. With an incredible range of defensive and offensive jutsus, Madara is the last person that any shinobi would want to come across.
Obito Uchiha
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Abilities: Obito possesses skill in both fire and space/time techniques. Combining both for a powerful, united attack. In regards to ocular strength, Obito possesses both the mangekyou sharingan and the rinnegan. Like Madara, Obito's techniques are enhanced by the implementation of Senju DNA. Obito's strongest technique is arguably kamui, granting him a perfect route of escape and a perfect cover for attack. He is also reputed to retain some rinnegan techniques, but it is unknown how strong or how many he can perform with the quantity of only one rinnegan.
Other characteristics: All around, Obito fights in a defensive manner, waiting for the opportunity to strike. His intelligence grants him a good advantage, and his use of kamui should be feared. In terms of strength, Obito's strength lies in waiting and seizing, rather than smashing and crushing. These traits could be better off in some fights, and worse in others.
So, how would the fight turn out?: All in all, I see Madara holding an advantage here. Although, Obito would not go down quite easily as you would think. Obito's concern here is avoiding Madara's godly attacks. The perfect solution for that is none other than kamui. You might say that Madara has a possible counter for that if he possesses space/time ninjutsu, but for all intents and purposes, I'm going to say he doesn't until he shows it. It may be an assumption, but it is a reasonable one to make for now.
A main question here is whether or not Madara's preta path can absorb a kamui. The answer? Probably. If Obito kamuis himself from a distance, Madara cannot do anything to Obito until he comes back.
How does this work?
1. The jutsu activates. During this phase I see it plausible for Madara to absorb it if he is in range.
2. The jutsu interacts with the spacial and time constructed configuration of reality. Madara has to act fast.
3. Obito teleports himself to another dimension. The jutsu is still active but Madara can no longer interact with
Obito unless he himself goes to that dimension.
4. Obito can't do anything to Madara unless he goes back to the normal dimension.
If Obito tries to attack Madara with a kamui, I simply cannot see it working. There is too much of a time gap for Madara not to react. Also, Madara could probably absorb the attack upon immediate activation on him.
The way I see the fight going: Obito absolutely has no barring on Madara in actual offensive techniques besides kamui. Obito would be unable to use kamui on Madara because Madara could absorb it upon activation. Therefore, Obito would be forced to kamui himself, pray to God for about 10 minutes, and run away. Keeping in mind of Obito's intelligence, he would be aware that Madara is too strong for him currently. He would probably retreat in acknowledgement. This is how I see the fight going. If he didn't retreat, Madara would obviously defeat him.
EDIT: Read Exaar's point. Minato with FTG barely escaped Obito's warping. This has me questioning how fast Madara really would be able to react. Therefore, I'm going to call the winner Obito on the basis of simple reaction time.
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