[Discussion] Different uses of Haki...

[YellowFang]

We've seen different types of Haki, like...

1- CoK
- Momentary
- Continuous

2- CoA
- Normal
- Hardened

3- CoO

I want the insightful members help me out in this matter...

1- In a battle between two high-spirited fighters, what difference can CoK make? or is it just to defeat fodders...?

2- CoA allows one to hit a Logia, what if the Logia uses CoA as well??? Would CoA effect would be neutralized???

Thanks...

 

[Titania Erza]

Kenbunshoku Haki forces the opponent to either move quicker than you can dodge or by attacking randomly without knowing where the attack will land.

Busoshoku Haki increases your CQC capabilities regardless if you are logia or not, it only counters the intangibility of Logia users, so that physical attacks can land.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

1. CoC has yet to be expanded upon. The strongest version of it we have seen thus far is when Shanks stepped onto Nwgates ship, it's the only time we've seen CoC actually damage physical matter, so ye, people theorise if you train in it enough you can become pretty haxed. Comes down to how well trained in it you are.

2. No, it's not cancelled. Just like two solid objects hitting each other.

 

[Corgi]

1. CoC has yet to be expanded upon. The strongest version of it we have seen thus far is when Shanks stepped onto Nwgates ship, it's the only time we've seen CoC actually damage physical matter, so ye, people theorise if you train in it enough you can become pretty haxed. Comes down to how well trained in it you are.

2. No, it's not cancelled. Just like two solid objects hitting each other.

1. That theory'd be wrong, since Rayleigh said you can't train Haoshoku Haki specifically, but that it can only grow as you grow.

2. This is spot on though

 

[YellowFang]

No, it's not cancelled. Just like two solid objects hitting each other.

Let's take a scenario...

In Sabaody Arch. arc, Sentomru hit Luffy with Haki, let's assume that Luffy has CoA... would he still get hurt even though he's rubber and using CoA for defense???

 

[Dr Strangelove]

1. That theory'd be wrong, since Rayleigh said you can't train Haoshoku Haki specifically, but that it can only grow as you grow.

2. This is spot on though

^^^^^
That's what I meant, he put it right though..

Let's take a scenario...

In Sabaody Arch. arc, Sentomru hit Luffy with Haki, let's assume that Luffy has CoA... would he still get hurt even though he's rubber and using CoA for defense???

Well it depends, Luffy hasn't shown the propelling version as of yet, he simply hardens himself (phrasing, I know) so he'd probably take some damage in the areas which aren't hardened.

 

[silmarill]

Let's take a scenario...

In Sabaody Arch. arc, Sentomru hit Luffy with Haki, let's assume that Luffy has CoA... would he still get hurt even though he's rubber and using CoA for defense???

If Luffy his Haki is stronger than Sentoumaru his he should not be hurt

 

[YellowFang]

If Luffy his Haki is stronger than Sentoumaru his he should not be hurt

Means rendering Sento's Haki imbued attacks useless, in that way if both opponents have equal strength in Haki, it does cancel out the effect...

And a Logia will always get hit by a Haki imbued attack...?

 

[Listz]

1- In a battle between two high-spirited fighters, what difference can CoK make? or is it just to defeat fodders...?

2- CoA allows one to hit a Logia, what if the Logia uses CoA as well??? Would CoA effect would be neutralized???

Thanks...

1. Just as others have stated. Best example is Don Chinjao vs Luffy.

2. Just as others have stated too. Like you two are bumping fists/kicks with each other, or technique vs technique. Highly depends on one's strength & durability on his CoA attack.

Means rendering Sento's Haki imbued attacks useless, in that way if both opponents have equal strength in Haki, it does cancel out the effect...

And a Logia will always get hit by a Haki imbued attack...?

No matter what, we can't say it gets cancelled. Even CoC vs CoC have a large impact when they hit one another.

Not really. Sometimes the nature law of elements aid the fighters (df user or not) in battle.

 

[YellowFang]

Well it depends, Luffy hasn't shown the propelling version as of yet, he simply hardens himself (phrasing, I know) so he'd probably take some damage in the areas which aren't hardened.

So 'being Rubber' factor would be eliminated in a Haki battle and it'll all come down to the strength of Haki...?

 

[YellowFang]

1. Just as others have stated. Best example is Don Chinjao vs Luffy.

2. Just as others have stated too. Like you two are bumping fists/kicks with each other, or technique vs technique. Highly depends on one's strength & durability on his CoA attack.

But CoK didn't effect either, it just knocked out the remainder in the ring...

 

[Dr Strangelove]

So 'being Rubber' factor would be eliminated in a Haki battle and it'll all come down to the strength of Haki...?

It depends, it would still be helpful, but if you hit Luffy with a CoA laced attack it will still hurt him.

 

[Listz]

But CoK didn't effect either, it just knocked out the remainder in the ring...

What kind of effect you initially expect it to be? Aside this as below?

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It has effects, not cancelled.

 

[YellowFang]

It depends, it would still be helpful, but if you hit Luffy with a CoA laced attack it will still hurt him.

Thanks dude, that helped a lot...


And a bonus topic,

In Ace V BB, was CoA really needed for Ace???

Because BB was already getting hurt by Ace's attack and Ace couldn't have avoided BB's attacks...

 

[YellowFang]

What kind of effect you initially expect it to be? Aside this as below?

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It has effects, not cancelled.

Did Chinjao's Haki effected Luffy in anyway and vice-versa...? I already know that fodders can be dealt with w/o even bothering to fight...

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Thanks dude, that helped a lot...


And a bonus topic,

In Ace V BB, was CoA really needed for Ace???

Because BB was already getting hurt by Ace's attack and Ace couldn't have avoided BB's attacks...

What do you mean? I don't remember it ever even being used in that fight was it? O___o

 

[xanonymosx]

if you are talking about haki cancel haki and the df advantage keeps working i dont think its possiple but akainu survived when he got cut with haki merged attack , some people sayed he canceld the haki with more powerfull haki but it`s just a theory

 

[YellowFang]

What do you mean? I don't remember it ever even being used in that fight was it? O___o

Nope, it wasn't used but some people suggest that Ace should have used CoA[if he has it, that again assumed by fans] to win against BB... and I don't think it is...
Because BB's DF isn't a typical Logia that grants him intangibility... He can get hurt by physical attacks...

 

[Listz]

Did Chinjao's Haki effected Luffy in anyway and vice-versa...? I already know that fodders can be dealt with w/o even bothering to fight...

Let's put aside that fodders since we didn't talk about them hehe
If by any chance there's a slight movement of them both thrown aback after that hit, it has that effect on them two. In Luffy & Don case, what i meant was that very attack itself, those sparks etc but if you were referring to the fighters' conditions aftermath, it was equal between them since they were standing just fine.

 

[YellowFang]

if you are talking about haki cancel haki and the df advantage keeps working i dont think its possiple but akainu survived when he got cut with haki merged attack , some people sayed he canceld the haki with more powerfull haki but it`s just a theory

Yep, that...
And if it's still unknown, it's a disappointment...