Different Kakashi/Team 7 scenario with Zabuza

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Well first of all, I have to say if it wasn't for plot, Zabuza would have won that battle because he was just kicking Team 7 and throwing them when he could've easily decapitated them. Also, somehow, the mist disappeared 5 minutes prior to the start of the fight for Team 7 could fight in the first place.

Anyways, who would win in these scenario's? (All characters are from part 1)

1. Kurenai, Kiba, Shino, and Hinata vs Zabuza - who wins? I say Zabuza

2. Asuma, Shikamaru, Ino, and Choji vs Zabuza - who wins? I say Zabuza

3. Guy, Lee, Neji, and Tenten vs Zabuza - who wins? I say Guy's team.

Thoughts?

If you want, I'll explain why I think what I think.
 

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If there wasn't plot, there wouldn't be a story to begin with. And why would Kishi make Zabuza so strong that Team 7 has to win through plot? I don't think that's what he did.
 

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Zabuza is high jonnin level. He can only be defeated by shinobis with a counter to the mist, so Byakugan and sharingan users are a bad matchup for him.
If he fights any other oponent he has a high chance, because his SILENT KILLING combined with his MIST is a overpowered atack, and if you don't have a counter for it, you're dead.

All the fights you just putt are bad matchups for him... because:

Kurenai team: kiba could smell him
Gai team: nejii byakugan+
Kakashi team: sharingan
 

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Zabuza is high jonnin level. He can only be defeated by shinobis with a counter to the mist, so Byakugan and sharingan users are a bad matchup for him.
If he fights any other oponent he has a high chance, because his SILENT KILLING combined with his MIST is a overpowered atack, and if you don't have a counter for it, you're dead.

All the fights you just putt are bad matchups for him... because:

Kurenai team: kiba could smell him
Gai team: nejii byakugan+
Kakashi team: sharingan
Kurenai team: Kiba could smell him? Who cares? Zabuza can still sense him alwell and Zabuza is way stronger than Kiba so he'd just kill him.

Guy's team - Guy has gates, he can solo.

Kakashi's team - Zabuza blinded Kakashi's Sharingan so Sharingan is useless against mist. Kakashi only won the first battle because of plot, like Naruto and Sasuke can really fake out Zabuza, Kishi even made Zabuza just throw and kick them when he easily could've decapitated them. If Zabuza faced Team 7 again for the first time, and Kishi didn't just make Team 7 win to continue the story, Zabuza would've won.
 

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Zabuza wasn't very impressive to me, Haku on the other hand would be a problem for the Konoha teams.
How would Haku be a problem? Guy destroys the hidden ice mirrors with gates and wins. Kakashi destroys a mirror with lightening blade and adulterates the jutsu, and Haku against Kurenai, who can use genjutsu to fake out Haku, Hinata who can use byakugan to see Haku traveling through the mirrors, and Kiba and Shino to smell and track Haku with sensing and bugs, there's no way Haku can beat them.
 

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If there wasn't plot, there wouldn't be a story to begin with. And why would Kishi make Zabuza so strong that Team 7 has to win through plot? I don't think that's what he did.
Because he wanted to make a really strong character to show off the Sharingan, that was the point of the arc.
 

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Guy wouldn't be able to beat Zabuza. Kakashi was only able to survive the silent killings the first fight because of water clones and Guy doesn't have those.
 
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