[Discussion] Difference in power.

[Wakoo]

ummmm duhhhhh

 

[spatha]

If they can't hit tobi all there power ups mean nothin, the sad thing is Tobi hasn't even showed us his Rinnegan technique yets, wait untill he start usin shinra tensei or whatever power the ten tails is goin to unleash

its unlikely he will use them in a big way since he stated awhile back that they were all but useless since naruto knew the powers and weaknesses to all the path techs by now...tobi pretty much said he wanted rinnegan to control the ET jinchuuriki. On to OP, i think the only one who could is naruto (not because he is main character so instawin) because when he went KM bee compared his natural speed to FTG, and tobi is the type of character where anyone without instant speed is going to have a hell of a time fighting him. No one has been able to do much to him except for minato (in anime filler) and the akatsuki girl, i forget her name. So, i see the only major options as either naruto pulls a minato and dodges behind for a hit just as tobi goes solid to grab him, or he lets himself be grabbed and then releases a TBB within tobi's dimention. I see that doing a good bit more damage than the girls paper bombs, even though she had millions of them.

 

[Grim]

I'm pretty sure he is using Rinnegan. that explains hes speed ''to compare Pain Edo tensei''... it's not the same Tobi who fought Minato, Narutos speed just couldnt match him at all, and from Taikage we know that Yellow Flash wasnt slower heh

 

[dhaoracle]

To me I think that Kishi is trolling all of us and just extending all of this for next week. I mean come on you are telling me that Kakashi couldn't figure nothing out on how to hit Tobi and the best they could all come up with is attack him one after the other. If I was Naruto I could have let him grab me and then crush him with a dozen chakra arms.

I don't seem to see why he has not thought of that already or even so why he hasn't used his speed at all or even just transform into Sage Mode which would give him an invisible reach that Tobi could not see.

All that I see is that Tobi, Naruto, and Guy are holding back, with Guy holding back because of his life, but all of those guys are holding back a lot..

ALSO it killed me that Kishi made Naruto go after Gedo Mazo and didn't hit Tobi in the face with the smallish TBB when he had the chance. I bet if he would have let that go off like he does with his Rasenshuriken there is no way in hell Tobi could have survived that unless he used Izanagi in which he would have lost his last Sharingan on the battlefield..

 

[Simplified]

You guys also have to think about all this. Bee hasn't helped them aganist, Naruto used over 20 clones just a few hours ago,Naruto hasn't used BM and Naruto hasn't used the ma and pa SM combination with the kyubi.

Where do people get the idea he can use SM with KM/BM?

Anyway, yeah I agree with most of OP, but with the shell part, I kinda believe he said that to deceive the kages into thinking he really is Madara, but weakened. That being said, since he isn't Madara, that statement might also be a lie.